For Sale - Sold: SMC Pentax-A 600mm 5.6 ED (if) lens/case

trigger · 01-16-2012, 09:26 AM

I see a great deal went on with the conversation while I was sleeping.

I use the photo that was sent to me earlier by you eljamopuio, as the example as I sent it to another person well versed in the Pentax field and who shoots with this lens as well with no complaints from you. In using the photo for the interested party recently, I do apologize and should have asked your permission. I sometimes get head of myself. I'm not sure what you mean by "characterizing" you. If you mean that I was talking about you in the 3rd party sense as I believed I was to not mention your name here on this site, then yes I was. I always mention all my buyers on ebay to others as "the buyer" to keep their names out of the limelight so to speak. I did not realize you were on here, again, if your offended, I do apologize. As for Photoshop Lightroom, all I went by was you mentioned to me that I could download a "Free" version of it and try it on the photo's that you took and sent to me to work with. I did not and I also did not look much more into Lighthouse as I have CS2. My short sightedness continues.
I am not upset with you in any way. I'm sure you did what you needed to do. I have the lens, the camera shop said it was fine, I'm happy with that. If the next sale indeed proves the lens has ca that can't be dealt with with whichever camera is used, then I will of course accept the Pentax lens's return.
I hope I have covered my apologies due to you. I will in the future be more considerate to each situation. Thank-you

Sigmoid · 01-16-2012, 09:28 AM

I'm quite happy with my copy, which I only use on digital (K10d AND K20D).

Perhaps the OP should make the effort to take and post some shots with this copy and let potential buyers decide for themselves.

trigger · 01-16-2012, 09:53 AM

Sound good, I'll do that

blind-bat · 01-16-2012, 10:09 AM

Just a suggestion, but I think a shot before and same shot after after PP will certainly help sell your lens If you are up to that. Good luck.

ramiot · 01-16-2012, 12:56 PM

Here are some photos taken with the A*600mm, when used with a solid tripod, this lens produces no CA at all. It is a very sharp lens and produces a nice bokeh.

https://picasaweb.google.com/104543922083693015547/OiseauxAuA600mm#

Robert

stormtech · 01-16-2012, 01:11 PM

I am following this sale thread with interest as a potential buyer.

First, I applaud trigger for being upfront and honest with the history of the lens including dealing with the slight rebuttal from the original buyer as a gentleman.

I saw the listing before anyone posted, and would have possibly jumped on it then, but the return policy that was stated turned me away right away. Especially now all that has come to light in this thread, I feel as a potential buyer that I would definitely want a chance to test the lens myself with the ability to return it if need be. The original listing basically says the lens is sold "as is" with no return accepted.

Also, the lack of photos of the actual glass itself (front and rear element) is a concern.

And, I do hope you will pursue taking some photos with the lens with a digital Pentax camera so we all can judge for ourselves.

trigger · 01-16-2012, 01:59 PM

As soon as I can find a Digital to use with this lens, I will take some photo's for everyone. Having stated that I would not accept a return on this lens again was/is not a sound judgement call. I would myself want to return any item I bought if for some reason if I were not happy with it. I will get the front and rear elements up for viewing. Thanks!

trigger · 01-16-2012, 06:11 PM

Well, here are a few tries with the older Ricoh XR-M film camera and believe me when I say I'm not much of a photographer. I did try several settings, different distances, no filter in lens, no flash, basicly, I set the ISO to 400 with the non-DX film, the stop to 5.6 sometimes, sometimes not. This whole exercise was just to see how much ca I could come up with this Pentax-A lens on a film camera. (right now, that's all I have in cameras)
Any way, until I can come up with one, (a digital camera) I will continue to shoot with the film camera's that I have and will take much better notes on settings etc.

trigger · 01-16-2012, 06:13 PM

Ok, so I don't know much about how to load the photo's......anyway, I did come up with some ca on the tree, don't know how but there it is, the rest, well , they look ok. I promise to keep track of the settings next time.

P.S. How do I get the photo's upright? anyone........

---------- Post added 01-16-12 at 05:18 PM ----------

really sorry about the upside down photo's......

---------- Post added 01-16-12 at 05:32 PM ----------

these are scanned into my computer

trigger · 01-16-2012, 06:43 PM

Here are several pic's of the glass in the lens.

trigger · 01-16-2012, 06:45 PM

Little dust on outside, tiny bit inside, no fungus, or scratches, lens coating in VG condition. other side is a bit harder to do. If anyone needs pictures from this angle, I will take more.

littledrawe · 01-16-2012, 06:52 PM

Well you certainly are one of the most accommodating people I have seen on this forum and for that I applaud you!!

trigger · 01-16-2012, 09:52 PM

To clarify: if your not happy with this or any purchase from me, return the lens or other item in same condition as sent and I will refund your purchase price . 380 positive feedbacks on eBay, in that time, three returns and full refunds. (this lens is one) I am working the next few days though at every opportunity I am looking to find anyone to shoot a few photo's with their digital. It will happen

**Pepe Guitarra** · 01-16-2012, 10:13 PM

Somebody stop me!!!

dgaies · 01-16-2012, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by Pepe Guitarra

Somebody stop me!!!

Do you actually want to be stopped?

01-16-2012, 12:56 PM	#20
ramiot Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Prevost, Quebec, Canada Posts: 508 Feedback Score: 24 (100%)	Here are some photos taken with the A600mm, when used with a solid tripod, this lens produces no CA at all. It is a very sharp lens and produces a nice bokeh. https://picasaweb.google.com/104543922083693015547/OiseauxAuA600mm# Robert Last edited by Bramela; 01-26-2012 at 11:16 PM.*

01-16-2012, 06:11 PM	#23
trigger Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 36 Feedback Score: 0 (0%) Original Poster	Pentax-A 600mm "CA" considerations Well, here are a few tries with the older Ricoh XR-M film camera and believe me when I say I'm not much of a photographer. I did try several settings, different distances, no filter in lens, no flash, basicly, I set the ISO to 400 with the non-DX film, the stop to 5.6 sometimes, sometimes not. This whole exercise was just to see how much ca I could come up with this Pentax-A lens on a film camera. (right now, that's all I have in cameras) Any way, until I can come up with one, (a digital camera) I will continue to shoot with the film camera's that I have and will take much better notes on settings etc. Attached Images

01-16-2012, 06:43 PM	#25
trigger Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 36 Feedback Score: 0 (0%) Original Poster	Pentax-A 600mm glass pic's Here are several pic's of the glass in the lens. Attached Images

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01-16-2012, 09:26 AM	#16
trigger Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 36 Feedback Score: 0 (0%) Original Poster	I see a great deal went on with the conversation while I was sleeping. I use the photo that was sent to me earlier by you eljamopuio, as the example as I sent it to another person well versed in the Pentax field and who shoots with this lens as well with no complaints from you. In using the photo for the interested party recently, I do apologize and should have asked your permission. I sometimes get head of myself. I'm not sure what you mean by "characterizing" you. If you mean that I was talking about you in the 3rd party sense as I believed I was to not mention your name here on this site, then yes I was. I always mention all my buyers on ebay to others as "the buyer" to keep their names out of the limelight so to speak. I did not realize you were on here, again, if your offended, I do apologize. As for Photoshop Lightroom, all I went by was you mentioned to me that I could download a "Free" version of it and try it on the photo's that you took and sent to me to work with. I did not and I also did not look much more into Lighthouse as I have CS2. My short sightedness continues. I am not upset with you in any way. I'm sure you did what you needed to do. I have the lens, the camera shop said it was fine, I'm happy with that. If the next sale indeed proves the lens has ca that can't be dealt with with whichever camera is used, then I will of course accept the Pentax lens's return. I hope I have covered my apologies due to you. I will in the future be more considerate to each situation. Thank-you

01-16-2012, 09:28 AM	#17
Sigmoid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Annapolis MD (USA) Posts: 247 Feedback Score: 18 (100%)	I'm quite happy with my copy, which I only use on digital (K10d AND K20D). Perhaps the OP should make the effort to take and post some shots with this copy and let potential buyers decide for themselves.

01-16-2012, 09:53 AM	#18
trigger Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 36 Feedback Score: 0 (0%) Original Poster	Sound good, I'll do that

01-16-2012, 10:09 AM	#19
blind-bat Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 256 Feedback Score: 18 (100%)	Just a suggestion, but I think a shot before and same shot after after PP will certainly help sell your lens If you are up to that. Good luck.

01-16-2012, 01:11 PM	#21
stormtech Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: In the boonies (NW Penna) Posts: 5,744 Feedback Score: 66 (100%)	I am following this sale thread with interest as a potential buyer. First, I applaud trigger for being upfront and honest with the history of the lens including dealing with the slight rebuttal from the original buyer as a gentleman. I saw the listing before anyone posted, and would have possibly jumped on it then, but the return policy that was stated turned me away right away. Especially now all that has come to light in this thread, I feel as a potential buyer that I would definitely want a chance to test the lens myself with the ability to return it if need be. The original listing basically says the lens is sold "as is" with no return accepted. Also, the lack of photos of the actual glass itself (front and rear element) is a concern. And, I do hope you will pursue taking some photos with the lens with a digital Pentax camera so we all can judge for ourselves.

01-16-2012, 01:59 PM	#22
trigger Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 36 Feedback Score: 0 (0%) Original Poster	As soon as I can find a Digital to use with this lens, I will take some photo's for everyone. Having stated that I would not accept a return on this lens again was/is not a sound judgement call. I would myself want to return any item I bought if for some reason if I were not happy with it. I will get the front and rear elements up for viewing. Thanks!

01-16-2012, 06:13 PM	#24
trigger Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 36 Feedback Score: 0 (0%) Original Poster	Ok, so I don't know much about how to load the photo's......anyway, I did come up with some ca on the tree, don't know how but there it is, the rest, well , they look ok. I promise to keep track of the settings next time. P.S. How do I get the photo's upright? anyone........ ---------- Post added 01-16-12 at 05:18 PM ---------- really sorry about the upside down photo's...... ---------- Post added 01-16-12 at 05:32 PM ---------- these are scanned into my computer

01-16-2012, 06:45 PM	#26
trigger Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 36 Feedback Score: 0 (0%) Original Poster	Little dust on outside, tiny bit inside, no fungus, or scratches, lens coating in VG condition. other side is a bit harder to do. If anyone needs pictures from this angle, I will take more.

01-16-2012, 06:52 PM	#27
littledrawe Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Red Rock Posts: 2,514 Feedback Score: 39 (98%)	Well you certainly are one of the most accommodating people I have seen on this forum and for that I applaud you!!

01-16-2012, 09:52 PM	#28
trigger Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 36 Feedback Score: 0 (0%) Original Poster	To clarify: if your not happy with this or any purchase from me, return the lens or other item in same condition as sent and I will refund your purchase price . 380 positive feedbacks on eBay, in that time, three returns and full refunds. (this lens is one) I am working the next few days though at every opportunity I am looking to find anyone to shoot a few photo's with their digital. It will happen

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01-16-2012, 10:13 PM	#29
Pepe Guitarra Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Posts: 2,223 Feedback Score: 26 (100%)	Somebody stop me!!!

01-16-2012, 10:15 PM	#30
dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917 Feedback Score: 200 (100%)	Originally posted by Pepe Guitarra Somebody stop me!!! Do you actually want to be stopped?