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07-30-2008, 11:10 PM   #16
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In the U.S., anything declared to Customs with a false value or other false information is subject to seizure and the importer can be subject to additional civil or even criminal penalties. Most countries have similar laws. I believe that the postal/customs form, green or white, depends on the declared value of the item. It's a risky situation to avoid a few dollars in duties.

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QuoteOriginally posted by JohnV3 Quote
In the U.S., anything declared to Customs with a false value or other false information is subject to seizure and the importer can be subject to additional civil or even criminal penalties. Most countries have similar laws. I believe that the postal/customs form, green or white, depends on the declared value of the item. It's a risky situation to avoid a few dollars in duties.
Hmm, how can receiver (importer) be prosecuted for the fact that sender stated lower than actual value?
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In the U.S., anything declared to Customs with a false value or other false information is subject to seizure and the importer can be subject to additional civil or even criminal penalties. Most countries have similar laws. I believe that the postal/customs form, green or white, depends on the declared value of the item. It's a risky situation to avoid a few dollars in duties.
true - however that is the question that the seller is going to ask the buyer, as he is the one paying any customs duties (if any)...

PS: the back of the white/green form says that it still can be used for more than $400, but then you need to complete PS form 2976-A Customs Declaration and Dispatch Note in addition... so the all white form CP72 is the way to go.
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Hmm, how can receiver (importer) be prosecuted for the fact that sender stated lower than actual value?
because he is the party to the deal, otherwise he can produce the paperwork showing that in fact he paid that small amount indicated on the form.

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because he is the party to the deal, otherwise he can produce the paperwork showing that in fact he paid that small amount indicated on the form.
However receiver is not in control what sender writes into custom form. How can he be prosecuted for things he has no control over?
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however receiver is not in control what sender writes into custom form. How can he be prosecuted for things he has no control over?
было бы желание, а статья найдется

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QuoteOriginally posted by deejjjaaaa Quote
было бы желание, а статья найдется

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У Путина так конечно найдется, а у нас такому делу пройти шансов нет
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У Путина так конечно найдется, а у нас такому делу пройти шансов нет
а Сметона ? :d

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ОК, back to business - it seems that I want too much...

recent sales were @ lower prices...

hence the price reduced to $500
(see the very first posting in this topic for the details please)
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QuoteOriginally posted by deejjjaaaa Quote
а Сметона ? :d
Smetona is the long gone past. Putin is the present

К стати, от куда родом если так Литовскую историю знаешь?
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smetona is the long gone past. Putin is the present

К стати, от куда родом если так Литовскую историю знаешь?
из курса средней школы в СССР...
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QuoteOriginally posted by deejjjaaaa Quote
из курса средней школы в СССР...
Ну да, там настоящая нефалцифицированая история Литвы была написана
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Ну да, там настоящая нефалцифицированая история Литвы была написана
то есть и coup'd etat с участием Сметоны в Литве был подделан кровавой гэбней ?
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The culpability of the recipient can be established through the examination of supporting documents and interviews of the involved parties concerning the transaction. A major worldwide investigation would not be launced over the loss of revenue on an item having a value of $500 so they would probably just seize the item and assess a fine or forfeit the item. The burden of proof for the government in a civil matter can be a little as "clear and convincing" which is not much. An example might be the use of Cyrillic in an English speaking environment (just kidding). Of course, there are legal remedies and defenses but is it worth the cost and the headaches just to save a few bucks in duty?

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is it worth the cost and the headaches just to save a few bucks in duty?
if it is really a few bucks then certainly not, the main point is - if you want it to be insured you have to write down the cost... no way around.
 

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