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10-11-2007, 06:43 AM   #1
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Stupid question

Hi,

Often the abbreviation "LBA" is used in this forum.

This may sound stupid, but as a non native English person I have no idea what is meant.
Can somebody please explain?

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10-11-2007, 07:01 AM   #2
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Man, that was a really dumb question. Just kidding. The abbreviation stands for "Lens Buying Addiction." It's a humorous comment about those who like to buy a lot of lenses to use with their cameras.

Of course, since I only have six or seven (okay, eight or nine) lenses laying around the house, I don't have that addiction. I only buy the lenses I really need.

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Well, thanks for making that clear.
My best guess was "Little Big Adventure"

However, this brings me to two other stupid questions:

1. At what point would one be suffering from LBA? Is there a quotum or threshold, let's say 1 lens every 2 months or so?
2. Is there any known cure available, for instance buying C***n of N***n? (and does any health insurance cover the cost, that might make me switch platforms)?

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When you own at least three 50mm prime lenses, you have been afflicted

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QuoteOriginally posted by bymy141 Quote
Well, thanks for making that clear.
My best guess was "Little Big Adventure"
That's a good guess Bert, and for a few of us here it's probably an accurate one as well.
A few people here seem to be traveling as much as possible, doing various different things.

QuoteOriginally posted by bymy141 Quote
1. At what point would one be suffering from LBA? Is there a quotum or threshold, let's say 1 lens every 2 months or so?
If your craving a lens and don't really need it it's LBA.
However after your purchase you'll discover several uses for the lens, so it isn't really a wasted purchase.
I think that I have 12 lenses, and I use 11 of them. The 12th is a POS, which I got for free, so I can't complain much about it. Although it did cost me several potentially good pic's before I discovered that it was the lens causing my bad pic's


QuoteOriginally posted by bymy141 Quote
2. Is there any known cure available, for instance buying C***n of N***n? (and does any health insurance cover the cost, that might make me switch platforms)?

- Bert
It doesn't matter what SLR camera you have, the addiction is still there.
Although I understand that it started through the Pentax world.

There is 1 way to get past it. buy all the lenses that you can possibly desire, then it's over with.

I googled up Camera LBA, and this is what I got
QuoteQuote:
1. LBA
6 up, 5 down


Lens Buy Addiction. The extreme desire to purchase additional camera lenses for a camera body. Often just a "phase" that is triggered by a particular event, but that will pass with time.

Usually affects prosumer and professional photographers after purchasing a new camera.

"I think I'm suffering from LBA since buying that Pentax DSLR- which one should I get, the 50mm or the 77mm?"
Urban Dictionary: LBA
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QuoteOriginally posted by bymy141 Quote
(snip) However, this brings me to two other stupid questions:

1. At what point would one be suffering from LBA? Is there a quotum or threshold, let's say 1 lens every 2 months or so?

Well, if you find yourself looking at the lenses in a store harder than the women walking past, Bert, you may be in trouble. Another sign, for married men, is the wife frisking you at the door when you arrive home just to find out what you've bought this time.


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2. Is there any known cure available, for instance buying C***n of N***n? (and does any health insurance cover the cost, that might make me switch platforms)?

Oh, buying a C***n of N***n would definately cure this addiction - or entirely deplete your bank account (which solves the problem as well). But, on a positive note, the lower costs for Pentax equipment helps keep insurance rates down somewhat. Some insurance companies have even started offering bulk rates (volume discounts) for Pentax users. Sadly, health insurance doesn't yet cover LBA. In fact, your normal health insurance rates may actually go up since buying a bunch of lenses with an angry wife around could be considered a dangerous activity.

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When you own at least three 50mm prime lenses, you have been afflicted
Oh dear.... I have it bad then !!

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QuoteOriginally posted by stewart_photo Quote
Man, that was a really dumb question. Just kidding. The abbreviation stands for "Lens Buying Addiction." It's a humorous comment about those who like to buy a lot of lenses to use with their cameras.

Of course, since I only have six or seven (okay, eight or nine) lenses laying around the house, I don't have that addiction. I only buy the lenses I really need.

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Reading all your responeses, I fear the worst.
I think I'm suffering of "CBA" (Camera Buying Addiction) with my Ricoh Singlex TLS (SLR), Pentax ME Super (SLR), KM K5000 (SLR), Sea&Sea MX10 (UW), various P&S camera's: 6 film (Canon, 2 Oly, KM, 2 Pentax), 4 digital (2 Sony, canon, lumix fz5), not to mention 1 box and 1 folding wide film camera's....
My only excuse is that it took me 35 years to build that collection.

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QuoteOriginally posted by bymy141 Quote
Reading all your responeses, I fear the worst.
I think I'm suffering of "CBA" (Camera Buying Addiction) with my Ricoh Singlex TLS (SLR), Pentax ME Super (SLR), KM K5000 (SLR), Sea&Sea MX10 (UW), various P&S camera's: 6 film (Canon, 2 Oly, KM, 2 Pentax), 4 digital (2 Sony, canon, lumix fz5), not to mention 1 box and 1 folding wide film camera's....
My only excuse is that it took me 35 years to build that collection.

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F**k, forgot the mention my K10D... I guess blackouts are symptomatic for CBA.
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QuoteOriginally posted by egordon99 Quote
When you own at least three 50mm prime lenses, you have been afflicted
Here's a case history, excerpted from the medical literature. The following events occurred between December 2006 and October 2007.
  1. Patient buys K100D with kit (18-55) lens
  2. A week later, realizing that kit lens isn't long enough, patient buys Pentax 50-200
  3. A week later, with a vacation coming up, patient realizes 50-200 isn't long enough either, buys Pentax 75-300
  4. Patient hears that Tamron 70-300 might be a little better than the Pentax lens, buys Tamron 70-300
  5. Patient decides that it's hard to tell but thinks Tamron is a little better, sells Pentax 75-300
  6. Patient decides Tamron 70-300 isn't long enough, buys Tamron 1.4x teleconverter
  7. Patient begins to realize that kit lens is no good for shooting indoor sports (too slow), buys Sigma 28-70 f/2.8
  8. [Somewhere in here, Patient decides to buy K10D, sells K100D]
  9. Patient reads reviews claiming that Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 might be a little better than the Sigma counterpart, buys the Tamron lens, too
  10. Patient can't make up mind whether one is better than the other, but likes Tamron lens caps better, sells the Sigma 28-70 f/2.8
  11. Patient reads that the Pentax 16-45 f/4 is a great lens, worthy of his new camera; buys the Pentax 16-45 f/4
  12. Patient realizes even f/2.8 is kind of slow in a dark gym and buys Pentax M 50 f/1.4
  13. Patient likes the M 50 f/1.4 very much but finds manual focusing difficult, so buys Pentax auto-focus 50 f/1.4
  14. Patient is getting confused and forgets to sell the manual focus lens
  15. Patient picks up lousy off-brand manual-focus 200mm prime lens at camera show for $5, puts lens in box and forgets about it
  16. Patient decides that it's awkward having to change lenses when moving from <50 to >50 and vice versa, buys well-reviewed Tamron 18-200 superzoom
  17. Patient likes Tamron 18-200, sells Pentax 50-200
  18. Patient learns that newly released Tamron 18-250 is better than the 18-200, buys the 18-250
  19. Patient sells the 18-200
  20. Patient realizes that he's broke, also sells Tamron 70-300
  21. Patient is thinking about vacation hiking trip in Grand Canyon, buys Sigma 10-20
  22. Patient decides that the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8, while a wonderful lens, is not wide enough to shoot upcominig wedding and that it is impractical to switch from the 28-75 to the 10-20 just to take a shot below 28mm, so buys well-regarded Sigma 18-50 f/2.8
  23. Patient decides that he needs something fast in the neighborhood of 100mm, considers one of the three primes available, opts instead to buy new Pentax DA* 50-135 f/2.8 SDM
  24. Patient realizes he's broke, sells Tamron 28-75 f/2.8
  25. Still broke, patient sells Tamron 18-250
Irony of this case is that the patient began by pursuing happiness at the telephoto end of the rainbow, and now is able to cover only the range from 10-135. Patient has also begun to wonder if crack cocaine wouldn't be a more economical hobby.

On the plus side, the patient can now take pictures in low-light all the way from 18mm to 135mm and he also has earned an excellent seller's rating on eBay.

Will

P.S: I do not know this patient personally. Never met him. But I am authorized to broker the sale of the manual-focus 50 f/1.4 and/or the Pentax 16-45 f/4 if anybody would like to make an offer. They are both in perfect condition.
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QuoteOriginally posted by WMBP Quote
Here's a case history, excerpted from the medical literature. The following events occurred between December 2006 and October 2007.
  1. Patient buys K100D with kit (18-55) lens
  2. A week later, realizing that kit lens isn't long enough, patient buys Pentax 50-200
  3. A week later, with a vacation coming up, patient realizes 50-200 isn't long enough either, buys Pentax 75-300
  4. Patient hears that Tamron 70-300 might be a little better than the Pentax lens, buys Tamron 70-300
  5. Patient decides that it's hard to tell but thinks Tamron is a little better, sells Pentax 75-300
  6. Patient decides Tamron 70-300 isn't long enough, buys Tamron 1.4x teleconverter
  7. Patient begins to realize that kit lens is no good for shooting indoor sports (too slow), buys Sigma 28-70 f/2.8
  8. [Somewhere in here, Patient decides to buy K10D, sells K100D]
  9. Patient reads reviews claiming that Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 might be a little better than the Sigma counterpart, buys the Tamron lens, too
  10. Patient can't make up mind whether one is better than the other, but likes Tamron lens caps better, sells the Sigma 28-70 f/2.8
  11. Patient reads that the Pentax 16-45 f/4 is a great lens, worthy of his new camera; buys the Pentax 16-45 f/4
  12. Patient realizes even f/2.8 is kind of slow in a dark gym and buys Pentax M 50 f/1.4
  13. Patient likes the M 50 f/1.4 very much but finds manual focusing difficult, so buys Pentax auto-focus 50 f/1.4
  14. Patient is getting confused and forgets to sell the manual focus lens
  15. Patient picks up lousy off-brand manual-focus 200mm prime lens at camera show for $5, puts lens in box and forgets about it
  16. Patient decides that it's awkward having to change lenses when moving from <50 to >50 and vice versa, buys well-reviewed Tamron 18-200 superzoom
  17. Patient likes Tamron 18-200, sells Pentax 50-200
  18. Patient learns that newly released Tamron 18-250 is better than the 18-200, buys the 18-250
  19. Patient sells the 18-200
  20. Patient realizes that he's broke, also sells Tamron 70-300
  21. Patient is thinking about vacation hiking trip in Grand Canyon, buys Sigma 10-20
  22. Patient decides that the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8, while a wonderful lens, is not wide enough to shoot upcominig wedding and that it is impractical to switch from the 28-75 to the 10-20 just to take a shot below 28mm, so buys well-regarded Sigma 18-50 f/2.8
  23. Patient decides that he needs something fast in the neighborhood of 100mm, considers one of the three primes available, opts instead to buy new Pentax DA* 50-135 f/2.8 SDM
  24. Patient realizes he's broke, sells Tamron 28-75 f/2.8
  25. Still broke, patient sells Tamron 18-250
Irony of this case is that the patient began by pursuing happiness at the telephoto end of the rainbow, and now is able to cover only the range from 10-135. Patient has also begun to wonder if crack cocaine wouldn't be a more economical hobby.

On the plus side, the patient can now take pictures in low-light all the way from 18mm to 135mm and he also has earned an excellent seller's rating on eBay.

Will

P.S: I do not know this patient personally. Never met him. But I am authorized to broker the sale of the manual-focus 50 f/1.4 and/or the Pentax 16-45 f/4 if anybody would like to make an offer. They are both in perfect condition.
Will,

Points 20 to 25 put to rest my concerns when I saw your lens sales - I was thinking perhaps you were planning to jump ship to the dark side tempted by the shiny new Nikons I acquired a DA* 50-135 and was similarly tested ... resisted selling the lens and am happy to still have it with me!
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Will,

I think this patient is suffering from a more rare form of addiction, though related.
My diagnosis is LTA (Lens Trading Addiction).
While it is also leading to bankruptcy, it will take longer for the patient to get into the end stage.

I feel very sorry for your friend, it almost allways is a long and troublesome way down.

My regrets, Bert
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QuoteOriginally posted by WMBP Quote
Here's a case history, excerpted from the medical literature. The following events occurred between December 2006 and October 2007.
  1. Patient buys K100D with kit (18-55) lens
  2. A week later, realizing that kit lens isn't long enough, patient buys Pentax 50-200
  3. A week later, with a vacation coming up, patient realizes 50-200 isn't long enough either, buys Pentax 75-300
  4. Patient hears that Tamron 70-300 might be a little better than the Pentax lens, buys Tamron 70-300
  5. Patient decides that it's hard to tell but thinks Tamron is a little better, sells Pentax 75-300
  6. Patient decides Tamron 70-300 isn't long enough, buys Tamron 1.4x teleconverter
  7. Patient begins to realize that kit lens is no good for shooting indoor sports (too slow), buys Sigma 28-70 f/2.8
  8. [Somewhere in here, Patient decides to buy K10D, sells K100D]
  9. Patient reads reviews claiming that Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 might be a little better than the Sigma counterpart, buys the Tamron lens, too
  10. Patient can't make up mind whether one is better than the other, but likes Tamron lens caps better, sells the Sigma 28-70 f/2.8
  11. Patient reads that the Pentax 16-45 f/4 is a great lens, worthy of his new camera; buys the Pentax 16-45 f/4
  12. Patient realizes even f/2.8 is kind of slow in a dark gym and buys Pentax M 50 f/1.4
  13. Patient likes the M 50 f/1.4 very much but finds manual focusing difficult, so buys Pentax auto-focus 50 f/1.4
  14. Patient is getting confused and forgets to sell the manual focus lens
  15. Patient picks up lousy off-brand manual-focus 200mm prime lens at camera show for $5, puts lens in box and forgets about it
  16. Patient decides that it's awkward having to change lenses when moving from <50 to >50 and vice versa, buys well-reviewed Tamron 18-200 superzoom
  17. Patient likes Tamron 18-200, sells Pentax 50-200
  18. Patient learns that newly released Tamron 18-250 is better than the 18-200, buys the 18-250
  19. Patient sells the 18-200
  20. Patient realizes that he's broke, also sells Tamron 70-300
  21. Patient is thinking about vacation hiking trip in Grand Canyon, buys Sigma 10-20
  22. Patient decides that the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8, while a wonderful lens, is not wide enough to shoot upcominig wedding and that it is impractical to switch from the 28-75 to the 10-20 just to take a shot below 28mm, so buys well-regarded Sigma 18-50 f/2.8
  23. Patient decides that he needs something fast in the neighborhood of 100mm, considers one of the three primes available, opts instead to buy new Pentax DA* 50-135 f/2.8 SDM
  24. Patient realizes he's broke, sells Tamron 28-75 f/2.8
  25. Still broke, patient sells Tamron 18-250
Irony of this case is that the patient began by pursuing happiness at the telephoto end of the rainbow, and now is able to cover only the range from 10-135. Patient has also begun to wonder if crack cocaine wouldn't be a more economical hobby.

On the plus side, the patient can now take pictures in low-light all the way from 18mm to 135mm and he also has earned an excellent seller's rating on eBay.

Will

P.S: I do not know this patient personally. Never met him. But I am authorized to broker the sale of the manual-focus 50 f/1.4 and/or the Pentax 16-45 f/4 if anybody would like to make an offer. They are both in perfect condition.


The question always comes after this much equipment hunting - does the patient take better pictures with the current kit than he would have with the original kit?
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QuoteOriginally posted by ccallana Quote
The question always comes after this much equipment hunting - does the patient take better pictures with the current kit than he would have with the original kit?
er...whats that got to do with the price of eggs (lenses).....photos?......its all about the hunt.

LBA, just bask in its warm inner glory, resistance is useless ( & nowhere near the fun)
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I think this patient is suffering from a more rare form of addiction, though related. My diagnosis is LTA (Lens Trading Addiction). While it is also leading to bankruptcy, it will take longer for the patient to get into the end stage.
I concur. But I just checked in the Johns Hopkins Guide to Photographogenic Pathologies [18th edition, rev 2007], vol. 2, LTA occurs only concomitant to LBA. In layman's terms, you can't trade 'em unless you buy 'em first.

And there's actually a benign form of LTA found most commonly among older men who are active at camera fairs.

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