How was this achieved?

Vylen · 05-13-2011, 07:00 PM

Dave Hill is another commercial photographer who is a king of HDR...

You can see his amazing stuff at his website and they really are worth checking out.

Nomad · 05-13-2011, 08:11 PM

Lots of exercise. I would guess about 3 to 5 hours a day!!

cats_five · 05-13-2011, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by Noob

Gents, how can I learn how to be awesome in post processing like these people?

Will a reply from a female do?

Firstly you need to know what you want the end result to look like.

Secondly you need the pre-shutter technique to get the best starting material - exposure, depth of field, lighting etc.

Thirdly practise, practise, practise, plus research, research, research, plus some more practise, practise, practise.... If your PC grinds through Photoshop it will help if you upgrade it or get a new fast one, and it will also help if your screen is calibrated.

BTW I think the images you originally posted are also desaturated to quite a degree.

**Digitalis** · 05-14-2011, 03:07 AM

I also suspect a polariser has been used to control the highlights (look at the reflections from the pool water)

marinb · 05-14-2011, 03:37 AM

find the answer here
Joel Grimes - Take the mystery out of Lighting

bdery · 05-14-2011, 04:20 AM

I believe some Dragan effects were used on those pictures, in addition to everything else. That's a post-processing technique.

Noob · 05-14-2011, 08:17 AM

Ahh, I wish I had Photoshop. I have Lightroom 3 at the moment... Saving up for Photoshop...

wtf_cowboy · 05-14-2011, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by joe.penn

I don't think looking at the model in shot number 3 will get boring or less interesting anytime soon

I don't really like how the top of her head is cropped out... imho

glee46 · 05-14-2011, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by wtf_cowboy

I don't really like how the top of her head is cropped out... imho

I'm thinking unicorns disguised as super humans. However, I'd still go for # 5, horn or no horn.

That's the new look anyway of only shooting part of the head. It works great if your going bald, having a bad hair day and so on.

glee46 · 05-14-2011, 03:15 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by marinb

find the answer here
Joel Grimes - Take the mystery out of Lighting

I went to check out the site, but for the most part it just led to bootleg web sites to download what he charges @ $100.

I would love to see some of his methods, but I wouldn't want to rob the man of his income, and take the chance of getting a virus on my computer at the same time.

I'm sure in time, he'll either have it on Youtube, or someone else will offer the techniques up via Youtube as well.

JohnBee · 05-14-2011, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by Noob

Ahh, I wish I had Photoshop. I have Lightroom 3 at the moment... Saving up for Photoshop...

Did you know you could download a fully functional CS5 Creative Suite 30 day trial DVD from Adobe's website?

That might give you the big break you need to and allow you the time to learn how these images were achieved. Also, another way to get a break in acquiring Photoshop Extended is to purchase it through an educational partner. ie. if you yourself or a spouse or child are a registered students in a post secondary education institute, that qualifies you or them to buy Photoshop under student discount(usually more than 1/2 the price).

Hope this helps.

**Digitalis** · 05-14-2011, 09:05 PM

Dragan effects are pretty easy to produce however the use of broad and diffuse light sources is critical to really pull it off, light sources with high specularity do not really work with this effect at all. Here's a quick example of the effect, from image capture to posting on here, this image only took me 2 minutes to produce - and I used LR3 & CS5 there isn't any reason whey you can't do this effect in any other editing suite all you really need to know is how to use USM,Curves and Contrast masking techniques.

Noob · 05-15-2011, 04:32 AM

Originally posted by glee46

I went to check out the site, but for the most part it just led to bootleg web sites to download what he charges @ $100.

I would love to see some of his methods, but I wouldn't want to rob the man of his income, and take the chance of getting a virus on my computer at the same time.

I'm sure in time, he'll either have it on Youtube, or someone else will offer the techniques up via Youtube as well.

Yeah I am not a thief either, I wouldn't want people using my photographs for free and so I won't use his tutorial unless he makes it freely available.

Originally posted by Digitalis

Dragan effects are pretty easy to produce however the use of broad and diffuse light sources is critical to really pull it off, light sources with high specularity do not really work with this effect at all. Here's a quick example of the effect, from image capture to posting on here, this image only took me 2 minutes to produce - and I used LR3 & CS5 there isn't any reason whey you can't do this effect in any other editing suite all you really need to know is how to use USM,Curves and Contrast masking techniques.

You make the K-7 look really sexy!

The gimp annoys me because the tool bar disappears on my mac when I use a tool and then I have to grab it every time behind the main window... As for Photoshop I had a trial which expired, didn't get to use it really unfortunately.

glee46 · 05-15-2011, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by Noob

Yeah I am not a thief either, I wouldn't want people using my photographs for free and so I won't use his tutorial unless he makes it freely available.

Just wanted to be clear I didn't think Noob was a thief at all. The site had me fooled as well as it looks legit to download the series.

glee46 · 05-15-2011, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

... all you really need to know is how to use USM,Curves and Contrast masking techniques.

USM? Is that unsharp mask?

Thanks

05-14-2011, 09:05 PM	#27
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Dragan effects are pretty easy to produce however the use of broad and diffuse light sources is critical to really pull it off, light sources with high specularity do not really work with this effect at all. Here's a quick example of the effect, from image capture to posting on here, this image only took me 2 minutes to produce - and I used LR3 & CS5 there isn't any reason whey you can't do this effect in any other editing suite all you really need to know is how to use USM,Curves and Contrast masking techniques. Last edited by Digitalis; 06-10-2011 at 06:16 AM.

05-15-2011, 08:48 AM	#30
glee46 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North of San Francisco, California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 598	USM? Is that unsharp mask? Originally posted by Digitalis ... all you really need to know is how to use USM,Curves and Contrast masking techniques. USM? Is that unsharp mask? Thanks

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05-13-2011, 07:00 PM	#16
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Dave Hill is another commercial photographer who is a king of HDR... You can see his amazing stuff at his website and they really are worth checking out.

05-13-2011, 08:11 PM	#17
Nomad Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Maine Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 408	Lots of exercise. I would guess about 3 to 5 hours a day!!

05-13-2011, 09:01 PM	#18
cats_five Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 835	Originally posted by Noob Gents, how can I learn how to be awesome in post processing like these people? Will a reply from a female do? Firstly you need to know what you want the end result to look like. Secondly you need the pre-shutter technique to get the best starting material - exposure, depth of field, lighting etc. Thirdly practise, practise, practise, plus research, research, research, plus some more practise, practise, practise.... If your PC grinds through Photoshop it will help if you upgrade it or get a new fast one, and it will also help if your screen is calibrated. BTW I think the images you originally posted are also desaturated to quite a degree.

05-14-2011, 03:07 AM	#19
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	I also suspect a polariser has been used to control the highlights (look at the reflections from the pool water)

05-14-2011, 03:37 AM	#20
marinb Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chisinau Photos: Gallery Posts: 60	find the answer here Joel Grimes - Take the mystery out of Lighting

05-14-2011, 04:20 AM	#21
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	I believe some Dragan effects were used on those pictures, in addition to everything else. That's a post-processing technique.

05-14-2011, 08:17 AM	#22
Noob Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 127 Original Poster	Ahh, I wish I had Photoshop. I have Lightroom 3 at the moment... Saving up for Photoshop...

05-14-2011, 08:53 AM	#23
wtf_cowboy Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Houston, Tx Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 52	Originally posted by joe.penn I don't think looking at the model in shot number 3 will get boring or less interesting anytime soon I don't really like how the top of her head is cropped out... imho

05-14-2011, 09:08 AM	#24
glee46 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North of San Francisco, California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 598	Originally posted by wtf_cowboy I don't really like how the top of her head is cropped out... imho I'm thinking unicorns disguised as super humans. However, I'd still go for # 5, horn or no horn. That's the new look anyway of only shooting part of the head. It works great if your going bald, having a bad hair day and so on.

05-14-2011, 03:15 PM - 1 Like	#25
glee46 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North of San Francisco, California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 598	Originally posted by marinb find the answer here Joel Grimes - Take the mystery out of Lighting I went to check out the site, but for the most part it just led to bootleg web sites to download what he charges @ $100. I would love to see some of his methods, but I wouldn't want to rob the man of his income, and take the chance of getting a virus on my computer at the same time. I'm sure in time, he'll either have it on Youtube, or someone else will offer the techniques up via Youtube as well.

05-14-2011, 04:05 PM	#26
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	Originally posted by Noob Ahh, I wish I had Photoshop. I have Lightroom 3 at the moment... Saving up for Photoshop... Did you know you could download a fully functional CS5 Creative Suite 30 day trial DVD from Adobe's website? That might give you the big break you need to and allow you the time to learn how these images were achieved. Also, another way to get a break in acquiring Photoshop Extended is to purchase it through an educational partner. ie. if you yourself or a spouse or child are a registered students in a post secondary education institute, that qualifies you or them to buy Photoshop under student discount(usually more than 1/2 the price). Hope this helps.

05-15-2011, 04:32 AM	#28
Noob Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 127 Original Poster	Originally posted by glee46 I went to check out the site, but for the most part it just led to bootleg web sites to download what he charges @ $100. I would love to see some of his methods, but I wouldn't want to rob the man of his income, and take the chance of getting a virus on my computer at the same time. I'm sure in time, he'll either have it on Youtube, or someone else will offer the techniques up via Youtube as well. Yeah I am not a thief either, I wouldn't want people using my photographs for free and so I won't use his tutorial unless he makes it freely available. Originally posted by Digitalis Dragan effects are pretty easy to produce however the use of broad and diffuse light sources is critical to really pull it off, light sources with high specularity do not really work with this effect at all. Here's a quick example of the effect, from image capture to posting on here, this image only took me 2 minutes to produce - and I used LR3 & CS5 there isn't any reason whey you can't do this effect in any other editing suite all you really need to know is how to use USM,Curves and Contrast masking techniques. You make the K-7 look really sexy! The gimp annoys me because the tool bar disappears on my mac when I use a tool and then I have to grab it every time behind the main window... As for Photoshop I had a trial which expired, didn't get to use it really unfortunately.

05-15-2011, 08:44 AM	#29
glee46 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North of San Francisco, California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 598	Originally posted by Noob Yeah I am not a thief either, I wouldn't want people using my photographs for free and so I won't use his tutorial unless he makes it freely available. Just wanted to be clear I didn't think Noob was a thief at all. The site had me fooled as well as it looks legit to download the series.