Have a photography assignment, care to help me out?

JessicaSideways · 07-26-2012, 04:11 PM

So yeah, I was on assignment with the rest of my digital photography class and I snapped this image... but I don't remember which item I snapped it for.

It has to be either:

Shape as primary design
Good figure-ground relationship
Poor figure-ground relationship
Form as primary design

Keep in mind, I framed this shot specifically so that the tree branch was coming out of her neck, so it would meet one of the above categories. What do you think?

psychdoc · 07-26-2012, 04:46 PM

Sorry! I know you are learning and I am not entirely answering your question:

However, even though the background is nicely defocused, the shadow on the face overshadows any point you were trying to make...It is also hard to pull off humor in photographs if it looks staged. But this is just my personal opinion.

JessicaSideways · 07-26-2012, 04:54 PM

Oi vey. Well, thanks for that - at least. You're right in that it does not answer my original question but it might help me frame shots in the future.

Chaos_Realm · 07-26-2012, 05:26 PM

I am assuming that you took a shot for each of the above categories?
Therefore you should have a shot for each? Set them out side-by-side and see which fits the description best. I would say the "good figure-ground relationship" could be ruled out as the subject has been isolated from the rest of the image. Just my thoughts anyway.

normhead · 07-26-2012, 05:31 PM

Interesting you choose a piece of wood to come out of her head. I prefer the light standards in parking lots with two lights on them. It makes the subject look like an alien.

JessicaSideways · 07-26-2012, 05:33 PM

Alrighty, so it's bad figure-ground relationship, then?

Chaos_Realm · 07-26-2012, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by JessicaSideways

Alrighty, so it's bad figure-ground relationship, then?

Sorry I retract my previous statement, I am probably wrong after some further reading:
Core theory - Composition

JessicaSideways · 07-26-2012, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by Chaos_Realm

Sorry I retract my previous statement, I am probably wrong after some further reading:
Core theory - Composition

Oi vey. Any other ideas?

Chaos_Realm · 07-26-2012, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by JessicaSideways

Alrighty, so it's bad figure-ground relationship, then?

Originally posted by JessicaSideways

Oi vey. Any other ideas?

I fear I do not. I'm an engineer with no education in the field of arts. Someone else would be more qualified to answer this question, I kind of jumped in without thinking.

fotogaffer · 07-26-2012, 06:19 PM

I go for poor figure-ground relationship.

normhead · 07-26-2012, 06:22 PM

Try poor figure ground relationship, and as a former photo teacher, next time, try and get a better image. Your teacher will mark you first with your knowledge of the concept as displayed by the image, but if he's like me, you still have to produce an excellent image to get an excellent mark. You need to prove that you can accept the limitations of the assignment, and still produce an interesting and engaging image.

SpecialK · 07-26-2012, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by JessicaSideways

Alrighty, so it's bad figure-ground relationship, then?

Of the choices...yes, that.

Allison · 07-28-2012, 03:35 AM

I am with poor figure ground relationship, out of those choices. I am saying this because there is no figure ground relationship in that picture. The background is completely blurred, we don't see the ground, and with the subject in front of the tree the tree is floating.

If you want to get a good grade, I would recommend going back out and shooting whichever category(ies) you don't have clear examples from. So look at what you've got, match up the easy ones and reshoot the rest. I know it is more work, but it will pay off in the end.

07-26-2012, 04:11 PM	#1
JessicaSideways Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Boulder, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 16	Have a photography assignment, care to help me out? So yeah, I was on assignment with the rest of my digital photography class and I snapped this image... but I don't remember which item I snapped it for. It has to be either: Shape as primary design Good figure-ground relationship Poor figure-ground relationship Form as primary design Keep in mind, I framed this shot specifically so that the tree branch was coming out of her neck, so it would meet one of the above categories. What do you think?

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07-26-2012, 04:46 PM	#2
psychdoc Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Bham Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 949	Sorry! I know you are learning and I am not entirely answering your question: However, even though the background is nicely defocused, the shadow on the face overshadows any point you were trying to make...It is also hard to pull off humor in photographs if it looks staged. But this is just my personal opinion.

07-26-2012, 04:54 PM	#3
JessicaSideways Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Boulder, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 16 Original Poster	Oi vey. Well, thanks for that - at least. You're right in that it does not answer my original question but it might help me frame shots in the future.

07-26-2012, 05:26 PM	#4
Chaos_Realm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Melbourne, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,251	I am assuming that you took a shot for each of the above categories? Therefore you should have a shot for each? Set them out side-by-side and see which fits the description best. I would say the "good figure-ground relationship" could be ruled out as the subject has been isolated from the rest of the image. Just my thoughts anyway.

07-26-2012, 05:31 PM	#5
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Interesting you choose a piece of wood to come out of her head. I prefer the light standards in parking lots with two lights on them. It makes the subject look like an alien.

07-26-2012, 05:33 PM	#6
JessicaSideways Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Boulder, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 16 Original Poster	Alrighty, so it's bad figure-ground relationship, then?

07-26-2012, 05:44 PM	#7
Chaos_Realm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Melbourne, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,251	Originally posted by JessicaSideways Alrighty, so it's bad figure-ground relationship, then? Sorry I retract my previous statement, I am probably wrong after some further reading: Core theory - Composition

07-26-2012, 05:47 PM	#8
JessicaSideways Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Boulder, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 16 Original Poster	Originally posted by Chaos_Realm Sorry I retract my previous statement, I am probably wrong after some further reading: Core theory - Composition Oi vey. Any other ideas?

07-26-2012, 05:53 PM	#9
Chaos_Realm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Melbourne, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,251	Originally posted by JessicaSideways Alrighty, so it's bad figure-ground relationship, then? Originally posted by JessicaSideways Oi vey. Any other ideas? I fear I do not. I'm an engineer with no education in the field of arts. Someone else would be more qualified to answer this question, I kind of jumped in without thinking.

07-26-2012, 06:19 PM	#10
fotogaffer Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 716	I go for poor figure-ground relationship.

07-26-2012, 06:22 PM	#11
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Try poor figure ground relationship, and as a former photo teacher, next time, try and get a better image. Your teacher will mark you first with your knowledge of the concept as displayed by the image, but if he's like me, you still have to produce an excellent image to get an excellent mark. You need to prove that you can accept the limitations of the assignment, and still produce an interesting and engaging image.

07-26-2012, 06:35 PM	#12
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,480	Originally posted by JessicaSideways Alrighty, so it's bad figure-ground relationship, then? Of the choices...yes, that.

07-28-2012, 03:35 AM	#13
Allison Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 667	I am with poor figure ground relationship, out of those choices. I am saying this because there is no figure ground relationship in that picture. The background is completely blurred, we don't see the ground, and with the subject in front of the tree the tree is floating. If you want to get a good grade, I would recommend going back out and shooting whichever category(ies) you don't have clear examples from. So look at what you've got, match up the easy ones and reshoot the rest. I know it is more work, but it will pay off in the end.