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04-24-2008, 08:22 PM   #1
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Dull Jpgs?

This is probably a simple question but, its still driving me nuts.

Whenever i take a photo in .pef(RAW), then post process in photoshop into a jpg the colours seem dull. If I view the jpg in photoshop it looks fine but when I use the windows viewer they are a little duller than in ps.
I hope this makes sense!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Fritzvds Quote
This is probably a simple question but, its still driving me nuts.

Whenever i take a photo in .pef(RAW), then post process in photoshop into a jpg the colours seem dull. If I view the jpg in photoshop it looks fine but when I use the windows viewer they are a little duller than in ps.
I hope this makes sense!
Cheers!
Most likely a "colorspace" issue in photoshop.
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Most viewers donít bother to use the right colorspace, they just stick to sRGB. So, convert your pictures to sRGB (in PS) before saving as jpeg and they will look good in all viewers.
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Gimbal is right. It took me a while to figure out why my DNGs exported with ProPhoto color space looked right when viewed with Irfanview (set to: Use imbeded color profiles) but looked dull when viewed with Direcroy Opus' internal viewer. Irfanview recognizes all three common profiles, but DO's viewer only recognizes sRGB and Adobe 1998.

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Fritzvds, you didn't mention whether you use a Mac or a Windows computer. The two use different default brightness (gamma) curves when driving their displays, and the sRGB colorspace default uses Windows gamma (2.2), which is darker than Mac gamma (1.8). If you're using a Mac, you may need to adjust the sRGB gamma defaults in your image processing software to match your Mac system gamma. That may help counter the "dullness" in your JPEGs.
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Thanks for all your responses.
I had a look and my colour space was set to adobe rgb so I have changed that. Wish I had known it earlier now since I've have had a digital camerafor about 18 months. The next obvous question then is how does this effect my photos when I send them away to get printed.
Do most print shops use sRGB or should i change those for printing to Adobe?
Iam using a PC. Gets more confusing all the time!
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Most camera/big box/printing kiosk stores assume an sRGB colorspace. Professional custom printers (big print specialists) will use settings fine-tuned to their equipment and the papers they use, and will be happy to help you set your file settings to match, or will do this for you. Talk to them first; some will use Adobe (1998) defaults, while others will tweak them, and still others will use some form of sRGB.

Since you use sRGB on a Windows system, you don't have a conflict there that could be the cause of your "dull" JPEGs. May I ask, do you calibrate your monitor and use a color-managed workflow for your image processing?
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