[Arpe]

Of course the REAL problem with SA is thier rugby team () but that's another story!!
(sorry guys - couldn't resist)

[AgentFixer]

First off, I love my K10D and what I have with it. It's been extremely helping in building what little skills I have and it's gotten my interest in the craft of photography soaring. It's probably one of the best values i've found and i'm happy I purchased it when I did (price drops plus rebates galore = happy me) However, there's a few things I've noticed that have made me think twice about sticking with pentax.

- I like to walk into brick and mortar stores...and more often than not i'll walk out with a random, impulse buy. However, it's becoming difficult to find stores locally that stock Pentax. I recently called Samy's a few days ago and found out that they will no longer carry Pentax anymore, and this is from the Los Angeles location (I tried to haggle on the DA* 50-135, but they weren't game....)

- If i'm out with friends shooting, and I didn't bring an appropriate lens for the shot, can i look over to my friend and borrow their gear? I'm the only one of my friends that shoots Pentax, so my selection of what i can shoot with is limited to what I carry in my bag...and I carry everything, but there are some scenarios that I need different glass.

I guess to really sum it up, it's immediate options and availability that's turning me off. Not to mention, I've been set on getting either the Sigma or Tamron 70-200 and it seems like it being released this year is a pipe dream.

Until then, i'm keeping the K10D and learning as much as I can with it!

[ftpaddict]

Why do so many people make such a fuss when it comes to changing brands? It's just a tool, for Pete's sake! If it isn't doing what you need it to do, you change it. Simple as that. No starting of threads to announce your departure, no bashing of your previous tool, no worries!


Remember lol101 here on the forums? He used to be quite the advocate. Now he's using Canon gear. How many of you knew that? I don't think a lot of people did, since he only wrote it on his blog. He has saved this forum a lot of senseless drama for the switch.

If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything. :ugh:

[dylansalt]

Of course the REAL problem with SA is thier rugby team () but that's another story!!
(sorry guys - couldn't resist)

You are dead right there

From world hero's too 4 consecutive losses all on SA soil!

I wimp away in disgust and find consolation in my K10.

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[dylansalt]

First off, I love my K10D and what I have with it. It's been extremely helping in building what little skills I have and it's gotten my interest in the craft of photography soaring. It's probably one of the best values i've found and i'm happy I purchased it when I did (price drops plus rebates galore = happy me) However, there's a few things I've noticed that have made me think twice about sticking with pentax.

- I like to walk into brick and mortar stores...and more often than not i'll walk out with a random, impulse buy. However, it's becoming difficult to find stores locally that stock Pentax. I recently called Samy's a few days ago and found out that they will no longer carry Pentax anymore, and this is from the Los Angeles location (I tried to haggle on the DA* 50-135, but they weren't game....)

- If i'm out with friends shooting, and I didn't bring an appropriate lens for the shot, can i look over to my friend and borrow their gear? I'm the only one of my friends that shoots Pentax, so my selection of what i can shoot with is limited to what I carry in my bag...and I carry everything, but there are some scenarios that I need different glass.

I guess to really sum it up, it's immediate options and availability that's turning me off. Not to mention, I've been set on getting either the Sigma or Tamron 70-200 and it seems like it being released this year is a pipe dream.

Until then, i'm keeping the K10D and learning as much as I can with it!

I never thought of that - it's a valid point

Mind you - I spent years capturing pics with a prime 50 1.4 and a x1.4 convertor

and a prime 28mm and an excellent Tamron 70-210 zoom

For me - having too many lenses spoils the fun of creativity

But sure if you are out with friends and want to borrow that 70-200 f4L it is going to be much easier being a Canon user.

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[HGMonaro]

Why do so many people make such a fuss when it comes to changing brands?

It's just a tool, for Pete's sake! If it isn't doing what you need it to do, you change it. Simple as that. No starting of threads to announce your departure, no bashing of your previous tool, no worries!

I agree with your sentiments about annoucing ones departure from a brand and especially, the brand specific forum.

Don't agree with you about 'it's just a tool'. Most people can't just change and drop the $$$ involved. They have to put up with what they've bought, and in that case, they have every right to 'bitch and moan' when it doesn't do what it's supposed to.

regards, Nige

[dylansalt]

It also begs the question -"Why did they (the one leaving) choose Pentax in the first place?"

So if I'm dropping $$$ on a brand - homework must be done

Pentax has never been a big player in the slr market and the marketing of their products just about non-existent - in fact I never ever even gave them a glance during the 35mm days.

Yet I chose a Pentax K10D as for me and my type of photography it will be the only camera I will ever need - I don't have lba and believe in a few strategic lens purchases and that's that.

So my investment is relatively small - if I needed a specialist sports camera a cheap C***n 30D (most surf photogs still use them) can be bought with lets say the 70-200 f4 and hopefully hire a 300mm 2.8 for special days.

There are members here who have just done that - using Sony A700

I hate companies that churn out goods because it just makes my purchase "redundant" very quickly - like Nikon/Canon - even if you buy that brand you are shortchanged very quickly.

Can you imagine the chap who just bought a Canon 40D - his camera (6 months old)has now been replaced by the 50D and in another 8 months a 60D ad finitem, ad nauseam

Same Nikon D80, D60, D90 D200,D300,D700 - how many more camera types do we really need??

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[pentkon52]

Can you imagine the chap who just bought a Canon 40D - his camera (6 months old)has now been replaced by the 50D and in another 8 months a 60D ad finitem, ad nauseam.

Which brings us back to square one. Buy what you need, for what you want to do with your photography and what suits you. My D1 has been around for 8 plus years, still shoots at 2.74 mp and still produces very nice 8x10's. So will the the 40D. No need to keep upgrading if the camera does what you want. If it does not, then yes upgrade.

And yes i know you uesed these cameras as an example, so am I .

We spend to much time listening to the hype and not enough using the gear we have.

My K10D and istD are not the fastest in the AF area, but i have learned to work around that. Use them for certain photos and not others.Maybe not enough are willing to do that. Complaints and in action seem the norm.

Or, maybe we all need to be two system shooters. Maybe thats what the companies are hoping for.

Dave

Same Nikon D80, D60, D90 D200,D300,D700 - how many more camera types do we really need??

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As long as people buy into the more pixels is better hype, they will add more. I have proven to myself and my clients, and its me and them that matter, that more is not alwasy better.

Dave

[roentarre]

I think you better switch your camera brand to canon or nikon quickly. Canon or Nikon lenses are supposed to be sharper than any other brands (only in the centre perhaps). However, it is well known that their L lenses are not as sharp as some of sigma EX series.

[PaddyB]

Wow, I guess we are lucky here in Taiwan. There are 4 or 5 B&M stores within a few blocks of eachother near the center of Taipei that carry quite a few Pentax (along with compatible Tamron and Sigma) lenses. I guess I'd better get my LBA on before I leave Taiwan! There is also a Pentax office in the same area where I can supposedly (according to more than one dealer) switch my warranty to international coverage for free. Apparently Pentax is the only brand in Taiwan that provides this service. Too bad they dont have that kind of presence everywhere else...