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drabina · 07-15-2008, 05:48 AM

I use mostly AF but I have only one central sensor selected and most of the time, I will use that to select what to focus on and then recompose. For very tricky shots I use MF.

gokenin · 07-15-2008, 11:51 AM

thanks for the hints everyone, I am sure at some point if i take enough pictures I will overcome the weird factor. Will just have to keep taking some and if any are any good i may post one sometime

Zewrak · 07-15-2008, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by gokenin

thanks for the hints everyone, I am sure at some point if i take enough pictures I will overcome the weird factor. Will just have to keep taking some and if any are any good i may post one sometime

Do not underestimate the power of asking if you can take a picture. Or show the people you take pictures of the picture and even ask if they want a copy mailed for free.

You will meet alot of people and most will be intrested and might even posé a bit.

And _ALWAYS_ respect if people show that they do not want to be photographed. And _always_ respect people that are in an akward position, you would not like to be posted on internet when you accidently peed your pants in the subway.

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babelphotos · 07-15-2008, 01:15 PM

Both. Depends on the subject and surroundings

Oh my god!!! cant type anymore

superbass · 07-15-2008, 01:32 PM

There is a photographer who uses a flash and does street photography. He basically goes up into the people's faces and he fires the flash and takes a picture. Of course this takes some major balls and it produces very interesting expressions on the people's faces.

I can't think of the guys name though ... He's from ny. Does this ring any bells for anyone?

**rparmar** · 07-15-2008, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by superbass

There is a photographer who uses a flash and does street photography. He basically goes up into the people's faces and he fires the flash and takes a picture. Of course this takes some major balls and it produces very interesting expressions on the people's faces.

I can't think of the guys name though ... He's from ny. Does this ring any bells for anyone?

He's a Magnum photog. Saw a video of him, but my opinion of this method is so low that I didn't bother recalling his name.

lithos · 07-15-2008, 09:29 PM

Yeah, I saw that video, too.

He was one big walking cliché. Leica - check. 35mm Summicron, because that's what Eisenstadt used, dammit - check. In-you-face-edgy photographic "technique" - check.

From and works in NYC, thinks NYC is the centre of the universe and the only place on the planet where interesting stuff happens, the biggest cliché of all - get the big red pen out, people, and scribe a big double tick on the list! Write "Oh yeah, baby!!!" next to it and underline, then add "I'm from Brooklyn, motherf***ker!"

The guy's name is Bruce Gilden, but that video has been taken down, and I couldn't be bothered finding a non-YouTube version.

Zewrak · 07-15-2008, 11:01 PM

One day he will meet mr.Wrong and die a painful death.

séamuis · 07-16-2008, 05:51 AM

bruce gilden is an ass pure and simple. im surprised hes never been beaten up for his rude behavior. I give him credit for being that brave and its certainly different but hes still an ass. I don't think his work is all that creative, how many 'I shoved my flash in your face, haha!' photographs can he possibly expect to do? sad thing is his work will probably be revered in the not to distant future. and yes I agree he is a walking cliché, leica and all.

lithos · 07-16-2008, 07:27 AM

That's the thing, séamuis - he's in New York! A city as tough as it is artistic, supposedly. That's what makes it so daring and therefore valuable, ostensibly. At the end of the day, he's pissing people off. Not a whole lot else going on in there. I'm not saying you shouldn't photograph people on the streets, but have some respect. You're gonna get a million shots of people scowling, anyway.

The funny thing is, I bet he considers himself better than the paparazzi.

It seems like a very...lomographic style of shooting. (I'm no fan of the Lomo Society, either.) Do this, and you automatically get great photos. There you go. Move to the front of the line! Why? Because there's no real thought to the shots, just a (simple) technique.

superbass · 07-16-2008, 08:13 PM

I'm mildly amused and confused by him. I'm from a little town, and I hardly ever take my camera out in public. When I do, I normally get the evil looks ... so I just find it interesting that he's so brave. I don't know how he hasn't ran into the wrong person yet.

**rparmar** · 07-17-2008, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by superbass

I just find it interesting that he's so brave. I don't know how he hasn't ran into the wrong person yet.

If you saw the video you would see he is not brave, just a bully. When people complain he just shouts them down. Basically he's the sensitive New Yorker type.

cygnet · 07-17-2008, 07:29 AM

Bruce has been a well known photographer for a long, long time, and this is just one of many themes that he has pursued. I've seen a lot of criticism of this particular style of his recently, but it's really just something different that he's doing to keep his creative juices flowing. Many artists feel you need to get out of your comfort zone every now and again to challenge yourself.

As the famous photographer William Klein said about his own similar style back in the early 1950's - "The way the subject reacts to the camera can create a kind of happening. Why pretend the camera isn't there?... Maybe people will reveal themselves as violent or tender, crazed or beautiful. But in some way, they reveal who they are. They'll have taken a self-portrait."

So he is just playing with an already well established photographic tradition. You may not care for the results, but at least respect the man for trying an unusual approach to photography.

séamuis · 07-17-2008, 10:06 AM

Quote:

So he is just playing with an already well established photographic tradition. You may not care for the results, but at least respect the man for trying an unusual approach to photography.

I can respect that, but I don't respect him. I think he is egotistical and I don't like the results of this 'style'... it tends to yield the same look from everyone as opposed to what he might get from not 'flashing' them in the face.

txsbluesguy · 07-27-2008, 05:36 AM

i shoot a lot with auto focus .... but thats because it can be such a PITA to shoot with the manual.

So i wont lose it I keep the lens hood on most of the time so half the time its reversed and covers the focus ring. and second i really only have the "kit" lens and the focus ring on it is almost non existent. I would prefer to be manual most of the time but those two pushed me to auto focus more often.

I just found my lens hood after six months after i put it "somewhere it wouldn't get misplaced"

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07-15-2008, 05:48 AM	#16
drabina Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 525	I use mostly AF but I have only one central sensor selected and most of the time, I will use that to select what to focus on and then recompose. For very tricky shots I use MF.

07-15-2008, 11:51 AM	#17
gokenin Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: lowell,ma Posts: 1,899 Original Poster	thanks for the hints everyone, I am sure at some point if i take enough pictures I will overcome the weird factor. Will just have to keep taking some and if any are any good i may post one sometime

07-15-2008, 12:02 PM	#18
Zewrak Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nowhere, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 654	Originally posted by gokenin thanks for the hints everyone, I am sure at some point if i take enough pictures I will overcome the weird factor. Will just have to keep taking some and if any are any good i may post one sometime Do not underestimate the power of asking if you can take a picture. Or show the people you take pictures of the picture and even ask if they want a copy mailed for free. You will meet alot of people and most will be intrested and might even posé a bit. And _ALWAYS_ respect if people show that they do not want to be photographed. And _always_ respect people that are in an akward position, you would not like to be posted on internet when you accidently peed your pants in the subway. .

07-15-2008, 01:15 PM	#19
babelphotos Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 57	Both. Depends on the subject and surroundings Oh my god!!! cant type anymore

07-15-2008, 01:32 PM	#20
superbass Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY Posts: 340	There is a photographer who uses a flash and does street photography. He basically goes up into the people's faces and he fires the flash and takes a picture. Of course this takes some major balls and it produces very interesting expressions on the people's faces. I can't think of the guys name though ... He's from ny. Does this ring any bells for anyone?

07-15-2008, 02:08 PM	#21
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,824	Originally posted by superbass There is a photographer who uses a flash and does street photography. He basically goes up into the people's faces and he fires the flash and takes a picture. Of course this takes some major balls and it produces very interesting expressions on the people's faces. I can't think of the guys name though ... He's from ny. Does this ring any bells for anyone? He's a Magnum photog. Saw a video of him, but my opinion of this method is so low that I didn't bother recalling his name.

07-15-2008, 09:29 PM	#22
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	Yeah, I saw that video, too. He was one big walking cliché. Leica - check. 35mm Summicron, because that's what Eisenstadt used, dammit - check. In-you-face-edgy photographic "technique" - check. From and works in NYC, thinks NYC is the centre of the universe and the only place on the planet where interesting stuff happens, the biggest cliché of all - get the big red pen out, people, and scribe a big double tick on the list! Write "Oh yeah, baby!!!" next to it and underline, then add "I'm from Brooklyn, motherf***ker!" The guy's name is Bruce Gilden, but that video has been taken down, and I couldn't be bothered finding a non-YouTube version.

07-15-2008, 11:01 PM	#23
Zewrak Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nowhere, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 654	One day he will meet mr.Wrong and die a painful death.

07-16-2008, 05:51 AM	#24
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	bruce gilden is an ass pure and simple. im surprised hes never been beaten up for his rude behavior. I give him credit for being that brave and its certainly different but hes still an ass. I don't think his work is all that creative, how many 'I shoved my flash in your face, haha!' photographs can he possibly expect to do? sad thing is his work will probably be revered in the not to distant future. and yes I agree he is a walking cliché, leica and all.

07-16-2008, 07:27 AM	#25
lithos Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brisbane, QLD, AUS Posts: 3,261	That's the thing, séamuis - he's in New York! A city as tough as it is artistic, supposedly. That's what makes it so daring and therefore valuable, ostensibly. At the end of the day, he's pissing people off. Not a whole lot else going on in there. I'm not saying you shouldn't photograph people on the streets, but have some respect. You're gonna get a million shots of people scowling, anyway. The funny thing is, I bet he considers himself better than the paparazzi. It seems like a very...lomographic style of shooting. (I'm no fan of the Lomo Society, either.) Do this, and you automatically get great photos. There you go. Move to the front of the line! Why? Because there's no real thought to the shots, just a (simple) technique.

07-16-2008, 08:13 PM	#26
superbass Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY Posts: 340	I'm mildly amused and confused by him. I'm from a little town, and I hardly ever take my camera out in public. When I do, I normally get the evil looks ... so I just find it interesting that he's so brave. I don't know how he hasn't ran into the wrong person yet.

07-17-2008, 02:44 AM	#27
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,824	Originally posted by superbass I just find it interesting that he's so brave. I don't know how he hasn't ran into the wrong person yet. If you saw the video you would see he is not brave, just a bully. When people complain he just shouts them down. Basically he's the sensitive New Yorker type.

07-17-2008, 07:29 AM	#28
cygnet Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hill Country Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 104	Bruce has been a well known photographer for a long, long time, and this is just one of many themes that he has pursued. I've seen a lot of criticism of this particular style of his recently, but it's really just something different that he's doing to keep his creative juices flowing. Many artists feel you need to get out of your comfort zone every now and again to challenge yourself. As the famous photographer William Klein said about his own similar style back in the early 1950's - "The way the subject reacts to the camera can create a kind of happening. Why pretend the camera isn't there?... Maybe people will reveal themselves as violent or tender, crazed or beautiful. But in some way, they reveal who they are. They'll have taken a self-portrait." So he is just playing with an already well established photographic tradition. You may not care for the results, but at least respect the man for trying an unusual approach to photography.

07-17-2008, 10:06 AM	#29
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Quote: So he is just playing with an already well established photographic tradition. You may not care for the results, but at least respect the man for trying an unusual approach to photography. I can respect that, but I don't respect him. I think he is egotistical and I don't like the results of this 'style'... it tends to yield the same look from everyone as opposed to what he might get from not 'flashing' them in the face.

07-27-2008, 05:36 AM	#30
txsbluesguy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 103	i shoot a lot with auto focus .... but thats because it can be such a PITA to shoot with the manual. So i wont lose it I keep the lens hood on most of the time so half the time its reversed and covers the focus ring. and second i really only have the "kit" lens and the focus ring on it is almost non existent. I would prefer to be manual most of the time but those two pushed me to auto focus more often. I just found my lens hood after six months after i put it "somewhere it wouldn't get misplaced"