Macro 200mm macro lens

HudsonShooter · 05-23-2016, 04:22 PM

sigma 70-300mm is low priced and the macro end of it starts at 200 and goes to 300mm. It may not be as good as the expensive model but its out there.

**jatrax** · 05-23-2016, 04:44 PM

Pentax-F 135 f/2.8 Plus HD 1.4x RC = 190mm f/4. Not a substitute, but maybe an alternative. Minimum focus distance is about 70cm compared to the FA 200mm Macro's 51cm. I know the OP said no TCs but thought I would throw it in here anyway.

**Digitalis** · 05-23-2016, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by HudsonShooter

sigma 70-300mm is low priced and the macro end of it starts at 200 and goes to 300mm.

Sigma is playing fast and casual with the term "Macro" with that lens.

old4570 · 06-10-2016, 12:04 AM

Slap a 2x Tele Converter on a 100mm Lens ..
Now you have 200mm ...
And no need to spend thousands ...

I find hand held shots @ 150mm + a little hard ( Lots of movement unless you go tripod = and then you have to lug a tripod around )

old4570 · 06-10-2016, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Digitalis

Sigma is playing fast and casual with the term "Macro" with that lens.

Its not macro , its closer focus ... Until ! You slap on a +4 CF filter .. Then it becomes Boss Macro !

**Digitalis** · 06-11-2016, 04:52 AM

Originally posted by old4570

Its not macro , its closer focus ... Until ! You slap on a +4 CF filter .. Then it becomes Boss Macro !

Boss macro? you're mistaken, that title belongs to the FA*200mm f/4 ED Macro, and other dedicated lenses of its ilk.

A zoom macro is a lowly peasant by comparison.

old4570 · 06-11-2016, 05:20 AM

Hehehehehehehehe

Your funny !

marcusyoung · 07-13-2016, 05:51 AM - **1 Like**

Shot these with A200 f4 macro years ago.

marcus

Doundounba · 07-13-2016, 11:37 AM - **2 Likes**

As another poor man's option, I have to say I was pretty impressed by the combination of Tamron Adaptall 90mm F/2.5 (I have the 52BB) with the Adaptall 2X tele-converter (01F). (In fact, the Adaptall 2X tele-converter works extremely well with many Adaptall lenses.) In this case, the combo gives you a 180mm 1:1 macro that really performs, IMHO. I've mostly used this combo along with a Raynox DCR-250 for larger than lifesize flash macro. Here's a link to my published shots with this combo, with a couple of samples below. The main downside, to me, are the heaviness of the combo and that I actually find the working distance a bit too much when not using the Raynox. BTW, personally I've not been overly impressed when using a 7-element 2X tele-converter on an already 1:1 90mm or 105mm macro lens. I tried a Kiron MC7 2X with a Tamron 90mm F/2.8 (272E) and with a Vivitar Series 1 105mm F/2.5. YMMV, but I've come to the opinion that the Adaptall design is exceptional and that Adaptall lenses were probably conceived with the use of the system's tele-converters in mind. I would like to try a Pentax 100mm plus 1.4x tele-converter BTW - I believe that should be a wonderful combo...

normhead · 07-13-2016, 12:13 PM

There are lots of pseudo macro options, like the Tamron 70-200 or any 70-300. The 16-85 and 18-135 are both pseudo macros at about 1:4. But my guess is, you want a lens that doesn't exist, in a Pentax mount. Time to move on. Obviously, since the Pentax 200 macros are older, if you thought that was a solution (like the FA*200 ƒ4 macro) you would have gone for it.

"Buy the lens you love, buy the body it goes on."

Pentax has clearly decided they can't afford to support the 200 ƒ4 macro crowd. They did give it a try though.

---------- Post added 07-13-16 at 03:21 PM ----------

Originally posted by Digitalis

Sigma is playing fast and casual with the term "Macro" with that lens.

The Pentax 16-85 provides more macro capability than the 70-300 that Sigma calls a macro. But clearly not a macro by Pentax standards. But since when do Sigma ever care about Pentax standards?

marcusyoung · 07-15-2016, 08:43 AM - **1 Like**

A200 macro f4. cropped. produces very sharp images and a beautiful bokeh.

**WPRESTO** · 07-15-2016, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by marcusyoung

A200 macro f4. cropped. produces very sharp images and a beautiful bokeh.

Agreed. Love mine - last lens I'd ever part with - - -and that is a wonderful image.

marcusyoung · 07-16-2016, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by WPRESTO

Agreed. Love mine - last lens I'd ever part with - - -and that is a wonderful image.

tks..

We share the same sentiments on the lens.

marcus

06-10-2016, 07:48 PM	#20
old4570 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 2,551	Hmmm Originally posted by Digitalis Sigma is playing fast and casual with the term "Macro" with that lens. Its not macro , its closer focus ... Until ! You slap on a +4 CF filter .. Then it becomes Boss Macro !

07-13-2016, 05:51 AM - 1 Like	#23
marcusyoung Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: singapore Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,123	Shot these with A200 f4 macro years ago. marcus Last edited by marcusyoung; 07-13-2016 at 05:59 AM.

07-13-2016, 11:37 AM - 2 Likes	#24
Doundounba Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Montréal QC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,351	As another poor man's option, I have to say I was pretty impressed by the combination of Tamron Adaptall 90mm F/2.5 (I have the 52BB) with the Adaptall 2X tele-converter (01F). (In fact, the Adaptall 2X tele-converter works extremely well with many Adaptall lenses.) In this case, the combo gives you a 180mm 1:1 macro that really performs, IMHO. I've mostly used this combo along with a Raynox DCR-250 for larger than lifesize flash macro. Here's a link to my published shots with this combo, with a couple of samples below. The main downside, to me, are the heaviness of the combo and that I actually find the working distance a bit too much when not using the Raynox. BTW, personally I've not been overly impressed when using a 7-element 2X tele-converter on an already 1:1 90mm or 105mm macro lens. I tried a Kiron MC7 2X with a Tamron 90mm F/2.8 (272E) and with a Vivitar Series 1 105mm F/2.5. YMMV, but I've come to the opinion that the Adaptall design is exceptional and that Adaptall lenses were probably conceived with the use of the system's tele-converters in mind. I would like to try a Pentax 100mm plus 1.4x tele-converter BTW - I believe that should be a wonderful combo... Last edited by Doundounba; 07-13-2016 at 11:46 AM.

07-13-2016, 12:13 PM	#25
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	There are lots of pseudo macro options, like the Tamron 70-200 or any 70-300. The 16-85 and 18-135 are both pseudo macros at about 1:4. But my guess is, you want a lens that doesn't exist, in a Pentax mount. Time to move on. Obviously, since the Pentax 200 macros are older, if you thought that was a solution (like the FA200 ƒ4 macro) you would have gone for it. "Buy the lens you love, buy the body it goes on." Pentax has clearly decided they can't afford to support the 200 ƒ4 macro crowd. They did give it a try though. ---------- Post added 07-13-16 at 03:21 PM ---------- Originally posted by Digitalis Sigma is playing fast and casual with the term "Macro" with that lens. The Pentax 16-85 provides more macro capability than the 70-300 that Sigma calls a macro. But clearly not a macro by Pentax standards. But since when do Sigma ever care about Pentax standards? Last edited by normhead; 07-13-2016 at 12:21 PM.*

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HudsonShooter Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Photos: Gallery Posts: 108	sigma 70-300mm is low priced and the macro end of it starts at 200 and goes to 300mm. It may not be as good as the expensive model but its out there.

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jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Pentax-F 135 f/2.8 Plus HD 1.4x RC = 190mm f/4. Not a substitute, but maybe an alternative. Minimum focus distance is about 70cm compared to the FA 200mm Macro's 51cm. I know the OP said no TCs but thought I would throw it in here anyway.

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Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by HudsonShooter sigma 70-300mm is low priced and the macro end of it starts at 200 and goes to 300mm. Sigma is playing fast and casual with the term "Macro" with that lens.

06-10-2016, 12:04 AM	#19
old4570 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 2,551	Slap a 2x Tele Converter on a 100mm Lens .. Now you have 200mm ... And no need to spend thousands ... I find hand held shots @ 150mm + a little hard ( Lots of movement unless you go tripod = and then you have to lug a tripod around )

06-11-2016, 04:52 AM	#21
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	Originally posted by old4570 Its not macro , its closer focus ... Until ! You slap on a +4 CF filter .. Then it becomes Boss Macro ! Boss macro? you're mistaken, that title belongs to the FA*200mm f/4 ED Macro, and other dedicated lenses of its ilk. A zoom macro is a lowly peasant by comparison.

06-11-2016, 05:20 AM	#22
old4570 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 2,551	Hehehehehehehehe Your funny !

07-15-2016, 08:43 AM - 1 Like	#26
marcusyoung Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: singapore Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,123	A200 macro f4. cropped. produces very sharp images and a beautiful bokeh.

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WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,138	Originally posted by marcusyoung A200 macro f4. cropped. produces very sharp images and a beautiful bokeh. Agreed. Love mine - last lens I'd ever part with - - -and that is a wonderful image.

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marcusyoung Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: singapore Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,123	Originally posted by WPRESTO Agreed. Love mine - last lens I'd ever part with - - -and that is a wonderful image. tks.. We share the same sentiments on the lens. marcus