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08-03-2008, 03:39 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by poochie99 Quote
Just a general question.....not sure where to post it...figured general would be the best place to post!!

I'm sitting here, burning my photo's to CD, and it's taking a longggggggg time. A real longggggggggg time.

I smartened up a bit....and now I'm saving them to a USB drive.....still a little bit tedious, but it's faster than burning.

So...how do you people save your photos? If you burn them, is there a step I'm missing? Do you buy "special" cds???

Stephanie
I use two maxtor external HD's and also CD or DVD depending on folder size.
So they are stored in 3 seperate areas.
Hopefully all three do not implose at once.:-)

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08-03-2008, 08:48 AM   #17
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If you want to keep the photo's forever use archival DVD's and when you add folders to it don't close the session that way you can keep adding more files till it's full. Archival DVD's are a little expensive but they are the best.
Mitsui GOLD DVD-R 4X have a 100 year archival shelf life. To permanently store an archival DVD, burn it to a Mitsui GOLD DVD-R ($1.89). There CD-R's have a 300 year shelf life.
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Does anyone here do backup to a remote server? I mean, you can get 5 Gb on hotmail's skydrive for free, so presumably there must be larger options available for not too much money?

I ask because while cd/dvd life is one problem, the greater risk is perhaps fire/flood, in which case your PC and the box of disks next to it are all at risk. And of course, most CDs/DVDs aren't particularly durable even if in fireproof boxes.

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I store them all on a single drive that's probably going to fail. Oh, and I don't do backups on that drive. Ever.

^ Seriously ^
I'm glad I live in Michigan so I'll be able to hear you scream when that drive takes a dump.

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Hard Drive recovery

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I'm glad I live in Michigan so I'll be able to hear you scream when that drive takes a dump.
Not a problem with a crashed drive. Just have a friend report you anonymously to the FBI as having child pornography on your computer. I guarantee that those folks will recover every file on your disk, including a bunch you thought were deleted.

Do not try this at home, these people are professionals.

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I recently picked up a Netgear ReadyNAS Duo, which is a network attached server. That means it has 2 1TB drives in it and creates a mirror image of whatever you back-up onto both drives (RAID-1). If one drive fails, you can swap it out for a new one and it is automatically filled by the other drive, a pretty safe alternative and much more convienent than burning DVDs.

Also since it's NAS (network attached storage) I can access it from any of the computers on my home network, including my xbox 360 which is great for showing slideshows on a big TV.

This all come at a price of course.....DVDs are whole mega bunches cheaper.

But are they cooler?
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I got 2 el-cheapo 250gig portable USB hard drives and use Microsoft SyncToy (free backup util from MS) every night at 4am to make a mirror image of my pictures hard drive in my machine.

I use 2 hard drives as I swap them once a week and keep one in my fire safe so worse case scenario I'll be out of one weeks worth of data max. It also backs up my documents, home inventory list and pics, scanned important documents, letters, spreadsheets, financial info...

For the REALLY important stuff (home inventory list and photos, and scans of legal documents), I have a second backup on an encrypted USB thumb drive in my locker at work.

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Here is some info on the differences between the formats. I have always read that the burning method and the error detection and correction is better on the + than it is on the -. I guess it is up to your preference. I use Tayo dvd+r for everything and never have had issues.

digitalFAQ.com | DVD Media Format Guide

Why DVD+R(W) is superior to DVD-R(W) on CD Freaks.com - Reviews
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For years, with 1mpx and 5mpx and 7mpx digicams, and scans of volumes of old family photos, I wrote everything to CDs and later to DVDs. I edit-process almost everything with PSP, so I saved all the originals AND the various edited versions. I put all the discs in big loose-leaf binders. As of last year, I'd filled 3 such binders, nearly 600 discs. That's when I stopped burning discs.

I ran into a crisis 2 years ago. Traveling thru Guatemala with Sony cams, Sony laptop and Lacie external HD, the HD crashed. Local techies in Antigua and Guatemala City could do nothing. When I returned to California, techies in Sacramento recovered most of the image files.. including many multiples... for only US$800. Ouch.

I wanted that to never happen again. Solution: RAID I drives, with all files mirrored across two drives. I ordered an Alienware Area51 laptop workstation with twin internal 1TB drives. The system arrived, one drive didn't work, customer service ignored me, so I sent it back. Restocking fee: US$600. Ouch ouch.

So now I use a few WD external HDs, and I upgrade every time a more capacious package goes on sale. For images, I use a 2TB RAID I system (it works like a 1TB drive but everything is mirrored on both discs) AND a 1TB drive. All images from 7 cams and 2 scanners go to the 2TB RAID box. Every week, that gets backed-up to the 1TB. Real Soon Now I plan to move the 1TB to my in-laws' house and do the backup over broadband. (OFF-SITE BACKUP is the ONLY safe refuge.) And when a 4TB drive hits the market, I'll use it as RAID I storage and return the 2TB to a single partition, and use the 1TB to backup the music torrents I've acquired.

Anyway, in the long run, HDs beat CDs and DVDs for storage. Why? 1) It's easier to carry a 1TB drive than 1TB of plastic discs. 2) CDs and DVDs are not immortal; some of mine have gone bad already, luckily just those with scanned images that I could re-scan. 3) Media formats change and become obsolete; what'll I do with my boxfuls of floppy, stiffy and Zip discs? 4) HDs run MUCH faster than CD/DVD drives and burners, and eventually cost less. 5) Offsite storage of HDs is more feasible.
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QuoteOriginally posted by poochie99 Quote
Just a general question.....not sure where to post it...figured general would be the best place to post!!

I'm sitting here, burning my photo's to CD, and it's taking a longggggggg time. A real longggggggggg time.

I smartened up a bit....and now I'm saving them to a USB drive.....still a little bit tedious, but it's faster than burning.

So...how do you people save your photos? If you burn them, is there a step I'm missing? Do you buy "special" cds???

Stephanie
hey stephanie... after "developing" I save a tiff file, and reduced size with frame and copyright .jpgs (usually 1000px wide), and put them to a folder on my hard drive, then to back-up folder on my external hard drive. When folder grows to 4gb or so, I burn a dvd, rename folders to date of burning or something, and make a new folder I guess there's no such thing as safe option, but brand name dvd and one harddrive copy should be enough, I don't mind 10mins of burning every now and then
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At the moment, having just invested in a new Mac Pro, we now have 4x 1TB drives built in, and back up the important files to each drive, which are very easily removable for storing in other locations.

Not perfect I know, but after having horrible experiences with RAID controllers, just did not want to use one again!
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For anyone looking for a good automated backup system, Windows Home Server is a brilliant setup to back up multiple computers, store files, allow remote access to all your computers and even serve webpages if required.

If you like tinkering with computers, you can set it up yourself very easily on some old hardware stuffed full of drives.

Or you can buy a pre-built system from HP and a few other companies.

It's a bit more of a pricy option though.
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I'm glad I asked my question! So many great answers!!!
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Hi there,

I stronly believe in backing up my photos on an external drive.
I shoot RAW so I keep it at a large capacity and a 500 Gig drive.

Best,

Shane
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If you want to keep the photo's forever use archival DVD's... To permanently store an archival DVD, burn it to a Mitsui GOLD DVD-R ($1.89). There CD-R's have a 300 year shelf life.
There's more in the equation than just the DVD, though.

Archival DVDs, Part 2 - Good as Gold

Writing on it with a Sharpie is one way to kill it.
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