Originally posted by Brooke Meyer Okay, so this is what I do - dance, especially ballet.
Originally posted by dms I would suggest:
Originally posted by leekil My only additional suggestion is that when the dancing first starts,
Originally posted by ldj4549 My take, IMHO, go at it like a rock concert.
Originally posted by biz-engineer As you want to control
Originally posted by Sandy Hancock I would echo Brooke's advice.
Originally posted by ismaelg Hello,
Originally posted by PDL This is a dress rehearsal
Originally posted by pathdoc ...and to burn the midnight oil to get the post-processing done in a timely fashion.
Hi everyone - Well here is what happened - and I need to thank all of you for your advice, suggestions, recommendations and comments. It all came in handy - and that is the absolute truth.
I went over at 2pm and got home at 10pm. Shot the dress rehearsal / practice and then the actual presentation which started at 7 and went to 8.15. It was the ballet company's 10th anniversary - so they did a presentation. The girls were all in high school. There were about 200 in the audience. It was a mixture of modern dance, ballet, and a Flamingo dancer.
As suggested, I shot with 2 cameras, K5IIs with the 60-250 @ f4, along with the K5 with the 18-35/f1.8 at f2 at 35mm - full stage width wide angle, up on a tripod. I cleaned each sensor with a rocket blower, and then remapped each camera for hot pixels. I took ~4200 images all total.
- Since the wide angle was on a tripod shoot the full stage, I just took continuous shots that essentially sequenced the dance number. 2400 in wide angle (35mm full stage width) sequences that I putting into something like a time lapse set of videos (I got this idea from a aircraft landing sequence I did over at the airport). The time lapsed sequences (played at 1/6 sec) are somewhat hit and miss. The first one was excellent - as I was up close. The ones from the balcony are ok, but I do like the ones up close better.
- I used the 60-250 for individual shots, both hand held and some on a second tripod with a very loose ballhead (nice suggestion).
I practiced during the rehearsal from the ground floor (about 50 feet to stage center) which was good. I was much closer and in a number of ways was able to get better shots. For the presentation I moved upstairs to the 2nd level balcony (about 80 feet to the stage center). The distance increased and the light dropped off. Close up I was able to use ISO 1600-3200. For the actual performance I had to push the ISO up to 8000 (on the 60-250) and 5000 for the wide angle (35mm). The lighting was really bad during the rehearsal (making adjustments), but did get better during the presentation - but I was farther away so the inverse square law took effect - double the distance get 1/4 the light.
I was getting some motion blur at 1/320 so moved to 1/400 and had no further problems.
Trying to follow the action as the dancers moved across the stage, split up (what group should I follow), all the problems you can imagine - just as you all had pointed out. My framing was nothing to write home about (terrible) - chopped off hands, feet, dancers half in and half out of the frame, etc., etc., etc.
I have been post processing since getting home on Saturday night.
- So far out of the 1700 individual shots I have about 170 that are somewhat reasonable (so far - still working). I had to fix the white balance on the shots from one of the cameras (it finally dawned on me part of the way through that I had the white balance not setup right - by looking at the output from the other camera that was setup correctly). The lighting was bad, which coupled with the high ISO and noise is stretching my post processing capabilities. I have come to understand cropping out half (or more) of a frame (I hardly ever do this).
- Of the 2400 images for time lapsed sequences, I have 6 done so far, one I really really like (it turned out very well), with the others being from pretty good to OK.
Emailed a few of the processed shots (about 10) off to Mary. So far she thinks that everything is great. [A starving person will think the smells from a food processing plant are great too.] I was hoping to be pretty done by today - but my eyes are going cross - it will take another day. A nice fast system with tons of storage is making this go reasonably fast.
Of the samples I have sent off, Mary tells me that she forwarded them on to the girls and they too think that they are great - [sorry, but after wading through a lot of my crappola shots - I question their tastes in images. So far, I have found about 3 that I like.]
The main use of the images are for the girls and the ballet company's advertising and their web/facebook pages, etc. I'm peddling this tricycle as fast as I can.
I found that I have learned a lot and have improved my shooting with this experience. My post processing skills have improved tremendously - practice makes perfect.
I'll probably post a couple of shots and the first time lapse in a day or two after I get finished with all of this, after talking with Mary...