[mhsp1948]

dLSK, glad you have photos in the gallery and regularly sell you landscape. I have won over 50 main awards in the last 5 years in contest, state fairs and museum contest and over 100 awards in other local and minor events and sold a lot of photos and also some of mine were accepted in an art museum in my state capital and hang there. I have gotten really close on many of my submitted photos to the gallery but none have made it. So some of us who have tired are not the really bad singers American Idol you mention, and how do we know we are NOT REALLY BAD. I just mentioned why. Oh, one of my award wining photos hanging the museum was a sunset without using an ND filter. I thought you comments were very arrogant and judgemental without having facts, just your opinion.

[Parallax]

One was of an Bald Eagle and it wasn't accepted because there was a pine needle across his face.

OMG.
A pine needle? In nature? Oh, the humanity!

[photolady95]

OMG.
A pine needle? In nature? Oh, the humanity!

You think you're so funny, Jim..........Not!!

[dLSK]

dLSK, glad you have photos in the gallery and regularly sell you landscape. I have won over 50 main awards in the last 5 years in contest, state fairs and museum contest and over 100 awards in other local and minor events and sold a lot of photos and also some of mine were accepted in an art museum in my state capital and hang there. I have gotten really close on many of my submitted photos to the gallery but none have made it. So some of us who have tired are not the really bad singers American Idol you mention, and how do we know we are NOT REALLY BAD. I just mentioned why. Oh, one of my award wining photos hanging the museum was a sunset without using an ND filter. I thought you comments were very arrogant and judgemental without having facts, just your opinion.

Ok well I thought I was being nice. If you want, I can go over your images and tell you what's wrong with them.

Judging by the one you posted here for example - the dock shot - I'm sorry, I find it VERY hard to believe you've 'won awards' of any actual merit. It's horribly underexposed, too much competing for the subject, white balance is WAY too cold, and overall, just a badly composed shot.

I'd like to see this museum image of a sunset as well, please.

So easy to string a bunch of " I do this .... so I'm a pro" online. Are you doing photography for your full time career? Probably not, right? Put the ego away.

You proved my point. I offered some real ( albeit hard ) advice and you replied with your ego. Very common of photographers that think they are a LOT better than they are.

Just because you have a nice camera doesn't mean anything. Just because you may or may not have won awards ( that can't be proven ) doesn't mean anything.


I DO know, that most of the time there are local 'photo contest', the judges aren't even photographers; kind of cancels out any 'rep' earned by that win.

Here's the facts.

Your images are judged by other photogs and are NOT up to snuff. Take that at face value and swallow some pride.

If you're going to just whine about other photogs not liking your images on HERE, lol, I can certainly direct you to a few other photog sites : see how you fair there.

fredmiranda.com Go ahead. See how well your images compare to some of the folks there.

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[mhsp1948]

Ok well I thought I was being nice. If you want, I can go over your images and tell you what's wrong with them.

Judging by the one you posted here for example - the dock shot - I'm sorry, I find it VERY hard to believe you've 'won awards' of any actual merit. It's horribly underexposed, too much competing for the subject, white balance is WAY too cold, and overall, just a badly composed shot.

I'd like to see this museum image of a sunset as well, please.

So easy to string a bunch of " I do this .... so I'm a pro" online. Are you doing photography for your full time career? Probably not, right? Put the ego away.

You proved my point. I offered some real ( albeit hard ) advice and you replied with your ego. Very common of photographers that think they are a LOT better than they are.

Just because you have a nice camera doesn't mean anything. Just because you may or may not have won awards ( that can't be proven ) doesn't mean anything.


I DO know, that most of the time there are local 'photo contest', the judges aren't even photographers; kind of cancels out any 'rep' earned by that win.

Here's the facts.

Your images are judged by other photogs and are NOT up to snuff. Take that at face value and swallow some pride.

If you're going to just whine about other photogs not liking your images on HERE, lol, I can certainly direct you to a few other photog sites : see how you fair there.

fredmiranda.com Go ahead. See how well your images compare to some of the folks there.

No argument here. I should have not responded to you as i did. If I am honest with my self you are right and it was a poor response on my part. Sometimes it is hard to swallow a big pill, but I will swallow this one and hope this has not altered our relationship on this forum. Yes, thought to much of myself and my photo work. Lesson noted.

[Dartmoor Dave]

Ok well I thought I was being nice. If you want, I can go over your images and tell you what's wrong with them.

Judging by the one you posted here for example - the dock shot - I'm sorry, I find it VERY hard to believe you've 'won awards' of any actual merit. It's horribly underexposed, too much competing for the subject, white balance is WAY too cold, and overall, just a badly composed shot.

I'd like to see this museum image of a sunset as well, please.

So easy to string a bunch of " I do this .... so I'm a pro" online. Are you doing photography for your full time career? Probably not, right? Put the ego away.

You proved my point. I offered some real ( albeit hard ) advice and you replied with your ego. Very common of photographers that think they are a LOT better than they are.

Just because you have a nice camera doesn't mean anything. Just because you may or may not have won awards ( that can't be proven ) doesn't mean anything.


I DO know, that most of the time there are local 'photo contest', the judges aren't even photographers; kind of cancels out any 'rep' earned by that win.

Here's the facts.

Your images are judged by other photogs and are NOT up to snuff. Take that at face value and swallow some pride.

If you're going to just whine about other photogs not liking your images on HERE, lol, I can certainly direct you to a few other photog sites : see how you fair there.

fredmiranda.com Go ahead. See how well your images compare to some of the folks there.

I wish you'd read through this entire thread a bit more thoughtfully before you decided to chime in with such an aggressive stance. You would have found that, calmly and diplomatically over the course of ten pages, members here have helped the OP to realise that he isn't taking the sort of photos that are likely to get into PEG, and have suggested ways that he can learn to take photographs that are more in the PEG style if that's his ambition.

Resurrecting a dormant thread after two months just so you can act like a tough guy at another member's expense seems churlish.

[Parallax]

I wish you'd read through this entire thread a bit more thoughtfully before you decided to chime in with such an aggressive stance. You would have found that, calmly and diplomatically over the course of ten pages, members here have helped the OP to realise that he isn't taking the sort of photos that are likely to get into PEG, and have suggested ways that he can learn to take photographs that are more in the PEG style if that's his ambition.

Resurrecting a dormant thread after two months just so you can act like a tough guy at another member's expense seems churlish.

Well said.

[Parallax]

I'll chime in here as one who has numerous images in the PEG

Perhaps you didn't realize that the discussion is about our Pentaxforums Exclusive Gallery (PEG); not the Pentax Photo Gallery (PPG)? I did a search under your user name and found none in the PEG.

[ivanvernon]

I wish you'd read through this entire thread a bit more thoughtfully before you decided to chime in with such an aggressive stance. You would have found that, calmly and diplomatically over the course of ten pages, members here have helped the OP to realise that he isn't taking the sort of photos that are likely to get into PEG, and have suggested ways that he can learn to take photographs that are more in the PEG style if that's his ambition.

Resurrecting a dormant thread after two months just so you can act like a tough guy at another member's expense seems churlish.

You are quite correct. It is okay to call a spade a spade, but no real reason to call it a bloody shovel. The advice and information provided was unnecessarily hurtful and insulting.

[MJKoski]

My thoughts on any internet awards gallery are rather dark. This is due to the fact that the judges who judge someone's work should have the chance to discuss the work of the artist face to face for humanity's sake. Too much bloody cold computer analyzed content these days everywhere.

I was asked to be judge for our national nature photograph of the year -contest in 2018 and pretty much hated the process. We were not given a chance to discuss the photos with the artists before selecting the final awarded photos. Just cold number games. Gosh!

[PDL]

My thoughts on any internet awards gallery are rather dark. This is due to the fact that the judges who judge someone's work should have the chance to discuss the work of the artist face to face for humanity's sake. Too much bloody cold computer analyzed content these days everywhere.

I was asked to be judge for our national nature photograph of the year -contest in 2018 and pretty much hated the process. We were not given a chance to discuss the photos with the artists before selecting the final awarded photos. Just cold number games. Gosh!

Depending on the size of the contest i.e. number of categories, number of images per customer, number of customers etc. Having a one-to-one conversation is just not possible. I watched a video about photo contests and judging in large events, where the judging took three days. The three judges had a few seconds (not more than 10) to make a decision. The guy in the back of the room running the projector was waiting for 2 of the three judges to say yes or no. Once there were two no's or two yes's the slide judgement was made and the next slide was up on the screen. They had to be fast and pretty harsh, very little discussion because they had thousands of images to go through. Once the first...to...last cuts were made, they took more time, but still fairly quick and by the video's account fairly brutal.

Contests with multiple images submitted for judgement by each contestant are even more difficult. If you send in 10 images and 3 of them are really bad - the whole lot would get thrown out because the judges/contest organizers do not want to be associated with poor work.

If you want to sit and talk to the photographers on how to improve/change the images, then sign up to be a sponsor for a portfolio review. Contests are not meant to be a learning tool, they are a competition. Any compositional issues, focus issues, color issues or classification issues are reasons for rejection. It's not personal, judges are hired because of their reputation (or supposed reputation) telling a winner that "it could be better if...." will not get that judge a job in the future.

[MJKoski]

I wanted to have a chat with the selected few photogs (together with other judges) who had their photos chosen for possible award positions (max 10 for each main category). First rounds were too busy.

Outcome of this was such that I did agree on maybe 33% of the given awards.

[noelpolar]

FWIW...... I have spent some of my professional life with talented specialists assessing images and artwork that were commisioned and executed in line with a provided "brief". I do now subsequently struggle when looking at high end work.... say 95% or better stuff..... I am looking for a discussion of some sort (or statement of intent including circumstance) to help me fully appreciate a photo.... (think bird in a zoo versus a true wild bird type of thing).

[MJKoski]

Too many common bling-bling plugins available. This results in a situation where output from multiple photogs starts to fade into some kind of singularity. No matter if subject is unique when post-processing makes everything look-a-like.

[swanlefitte]

It's horribly underexposed, too much competing for the subject, white balance is WAY too cold, and overall, just a badly composed shot.

Yeah, those things matter. But not in and of themselves. The statements are shortcuts. Why does one care that a particular photo is under exposed? Probably because it makes it difficult for the viewer or impossible for the viewer to make out detail. It is possible that this can add to a photo also. This is why when I hear this talk shortcut, this scene plays in the back of my mind.

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