Eye-point on OVF and EVF

**i_trax** · 02-01-2022, 12:07 PM

I had my both eyes done ( cataracts ) so now use reading / computer glasses only.
Trying to find and experimenting the best solution for using OVF / EVF ,
should I use with glasses or without?
I obviously have to use glasses to be able to see the back LCD monitor.
There are some comments about the eye-point , what exactly is it?
Is it the same for all EVF's , different brands , camera models?
What about OVF , I can not remember hearing any comments about eye-point in relation to OVF?

**UncleVanya** · 02-01-2022, 12:26 PM

Eye relief and eye point are the same thing.

https://cameragx.com/2010/03/09/viewfinders-coverage-magnification-and-eye-relief-part-two/amp/

**Sakura** · 02-01-2022, 02:10 PM

Speaking for myself (right eye -3.25) and for using manual focus.
For my former K7 i was unable to use the OVF with my glasses. And without my glasses, even with an added diopter of -2 (the default correction for the K7 is +2.5 to -2.5 if i remember correctly so i really needed that added diopter), it was really really hard to get the manual focus spot-on. So i almost exclusively was using auto-focus.

My current camera, K1-II has a much larger OVF, making it perfectly usable with my glasses and even without my glasses. The diopter correction of the K1-II has a wider range than the K7 had, so no added diopter needed anymore. I am extremely happy i can use manual focus again with my K1-II.

So i guess it more or less depends on the camera u are using.

For auto-focus of course isn't a problem anyway.

**i_trax** · 02-01-2022, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

Eye relief and eye point are the same thing.

https://cameragx.com/2010/03/09/viewfinders-coverage-magnification-and-eye-relief-part-two/amp/

great , thank you

**BarryE** · 02-02-2022, 02:17 AM

Personally, I need reading glasses (1.5 to 2.0) and find the dioptre correction on the K3/K1fine. However, I manually focus in Live View as there is so much more control. I do of course need glasses for this, so I have a set of half moon lenses which can sit on my nose - I can use the viewfinder and read the viewfinder just fine like this.

I also have a Hoodman Loupe when the LCD is reflecting too much sun. An excellent piece of kit as it has a built in dioptre adjustment and this is attached via a neck cord, which is swung up to the LCD when required. I can hold the loupe to the LCD and camera with one hand while focussing with the other. That too works well.

02-01-2022, 12:07 PM	#1
i_trax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,621	Eye-point on OVF and EVF I had my both eyes done ( cataracts ) so now use reading / computer glasses only. Trying to find and experimenting the best solution for using OVF / EVF , should I use with glasses or without? I obviously have to use glasses to be able to see the back LCD monitor. There are some comments about the eye-point , what exactly is it? Is it the same for all EVF's , different brands , camera models? What about OVF , I can not remember hearing any comments about eye-point in relation to OVF?

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02-01-2022, 12:26 PM	#2
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,407	Eye relief and eye point are the same thing. https://cameragx.com/2010/03/09/viewfinders-coverage-magnification-and-eye-relief-part-two/amp/

02-01-2022, 02:10 PM	#3
Sakura Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 438	Speaking for myself (right eye -3.25) and for using manual focus. For my former K7 i was unable to use the OVF with my glasses. And without my glasses, even with an added diopter of -2 (the default correction for the K7 is +2.5 to -2.5 if i remember correctly so i really needed that added diopter), it was really really hard to get the manual focus spot-on. So i almost exclusively was using auto-focus. My current camera, K1-II has a much larger OVF, making it perfectly usable with my glasses and even without my glasses. The diopter correction of the K1-II has a wider range than the K7 had, so no added diopter needed anymore. I am extremely happy i can use manual focus again with my K1-II. So i guess it more or less depends on the camera u are using. For auto-focus of course isn't a problem anyway.

02-01-2022, 02:34 PM	#4
i_trax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,621 Original Poster	Originally posted by UncleVanya Eye relief and eye point are the same thing. https://cameragx.com/2010/03/09/viewfinders-coverage-magnification-and-eye-relief-part-two/amp/ great , thank you

02-02-2022, 02:17 AM	#5
BarryE Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 1,653	Personally, I need reading glasses (1.5 to 2.0) and find the dioptre correction on the K3/K1fine. However, I manually focus in Live View as there is so much more control. I do of course need glasses for this, so I have a set of half moon lenses which can sit on my nose - I can use the viewfinder and read the viewfinder just fine like this. I also have a Hoodman Loupe when the LCD is reflecting too much sun. An excellent piece of kit as it has a built in dioptre adjustment and this is attached via a neck cord, which is swung up to the LCD when required. I can hold the loupe to the LCD and camera with one hand while focussing with the other. That too works well.