Tungsten WB with daylight???

maxwell1295 · 01-07-2009, 01:59 PM

Covert it to B&W....that's what I do.

poco · 01-07-2009, 02:32 PM

The majority of the color is in the red and yellow. Just pull the cyan and blue down and lighten or darken to your taste.

I pulled the green, magenta, cyan, and blue down in the candle shot. You can play with it a bit more to completely remove the color in the windows, I just salted to my taste.

I just pulled the cyan down in the kitchen shot and should have pulled the blue down as well to fix the curtain and counter top.

It took longer for Photoshop to open than to play with the hue/saturation tool for both photos.

Edit I went back and pulled the blues down in the kitchen shot.

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soccerjoe5 · 01-08-2009, 03:23 AM

You could play around with flashes and gels, that'd give you a LOT of control

The kitchen shot for example: I could turn the tungsten lights off and bounce one or 2 flashes if the ceilings were white to give similar lighting and since the flashes are daylight balanced it'd match the outdoors. Or I could add 1/4 CTO gels to those strobes to give a slightly warmer look in the interior but maintain the neutral outdoor window.

However you won't be able to get "spontaneous" shots that quickly though

Marc Sabatella · 01-08-2009, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by Aaron1971

Whet kind of light bulb is tungsten?

The usual kind - the one that screws into in most household lamps, the one every cartoonist has used to indicate a bright ideas, the one that forms the subject of so many jokes about how many so-and-sos it takes to change one, etc. The only kind your grandparents ever bought. Also known as incandescent. Basically, anything you'd buy for use in your home that isn't a fluorescent bulb. Well, OK, some light fixtures take halogen bulbs, but if you've got one of those, you know it, because those suckers can be hard to find and expensive to replace.

**FuzzyOne** · 01-08-2009, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by poco

The majority of the color is in the red and yellow. Just pull the cyan and blue down and lighten or darken to your taste.

I pulled the green, magenta, cyan, and blue down in the candle shot. You can play with it a bit more to completely remove the color in the windows, I just salted to my taste.

I just pulled the cyan down in the kitchen shot and should have pulled the blue down as well to fix the curtain and counter top.

It took longer for Photoshop to open than to play with the hue/saturation tool for both photos.

Edit I went back and pulled the blues down in the kitchen shot.

Before

After
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poco,

Thank you for your effort. I had pretty much the same result in PS. Neither of these pictures were posted for their quality....it was just to show a point.

As for flash, well, I try to avoid it. That's why I bought a Sigma 28 f/1.8 before Christmas. I love natural colors. When I use flash, I can't manage to get the same color rendition as in that kitchen picture.

And gels...well...there was no time for that. I prefer bouncing also, but when I visit my in-laws, my 540 doesn't do too well in this environment.

trishytee · 01-09-2009, 11:16 PM

If you shoot in RAW and chose AWB it works quite well. Just tried it using a bottle as no one home to put in front of the sink. (except me and I hate dishes!) Of course you could move all the candles to the other side of the Xmas tree!

01-07-2009, 02:32 PM	#17
poco Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 153	The majority of the color is in the red and yellow. Just pull the cyan and blue down and lighten or darken to your taste. I pulled the green, magenta, cyan, and blue down in the candle shot. You can play with it a bit more to completely remove the color in the windows, I just salted to my taste. I just pulled the cyan down in the kitchen shot and should have pulled the blue down as well to fix the curtain and counter top. It took longer for Photoshop to open than to play with the hue/saturation tool for both photos. Edit I went back and pulled the blues down in the kitchen shot. Before After Before After Last edited by poco; 01-08-2009 at 04:10 AM.

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01-07-2009, 01:59 PM	#16
maxwell1295 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Long Island, New York Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,703	Covert it to B&W....that's what I do.

01-08-2009, 03:23 AM	#18
soccerjoe5 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,343	You could play around with flashes and gels, that'd give you a LOT of control The kitchen shot for example: I could turn the tungsten lights off and bounce one or 2 flashes if the ceilings were white to give similar lighting and since the flashes are daylight balanced it'd match the outdoors. Or I could add 1/4 CTO gels to those strobes to give a slightly warmer look in the interior but maintain the neutral outdoor window. However you won't be able to get "spontaneous" shots that quickly though

01-08-2009, 12:31 PM	#19
Marc Sabatella Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denver, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 10,685	Originally posted by Aaron1971 Whet kind of light bulb is tungsten? The usual kind - the one that screws into in most household lamps, the one every cartoonist has used to indicate a bright ideas, the one that forms the subject of so many jokes about how many so-and-sos it takes to change one, etc. The only kind your grandparents ever bought. Also known as incandescent. Basically, anything you'd buy for use in your home that isn't a fluorescent bulb. Well, OK, some light fixtures take halogen bulbs, but if you've got one of those, you know it, because those suckers can be hard to find and expensive to replace.

01-08-2009, 03:09 PM	#20
FuzzyOne Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Central NJ Posts: 90 Original Poster	Originally posted by poco The majority of the color is in the red and yellow. Just pull the cyan and blue down and lighten or darken to your taste. I pulled the green, magenta, cyan, and blue down in the candle shot. You can play with it a bit more to completely remove the color in the windows, I just salted to my taste. I just pulled the cyan down in the kitchen shot and should have pulled the blue down as well to fix the curtain and counter top. It took longer for Photoshop to open than to play with the hue/saturation tool for both photos. Edit I went back and pulled the blues down in the kitchen shot. Before After Attachment 25398 Before After Attachment 25461 poco, Thank you for your effort. I had pretty much the same result in PS. Neither of these pictures were posted for their quality....it was just to show a point. As for flash, well, I try to avoid it. That's why I bought a Sigma 28 f/1.8 before Christmas. I love natural colors. When I use flash, I can't manage to get the same color rendition as in that kitchen picture. And gels...well...there was no time for that. I prefer bouncing also, but when I visit my in-laws, my 540 doesn't do too well in this environment.

01-09-2009, 11:16 PM	#21
trishytee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mandurah Perth Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 221	If you shoot in RAW and chose AWB it works quite well. Just tried it using a bottle as no one home to put in front of the sink. (except me and I hate dishes!) Of course you could move all the candles to the other side of the Xmas tree!