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03-11-2009, 09:23 PM   #16
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You're wrong.
You know you're in a rough forum, when even the moderators are surly .

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You know you're in a rough forum, when even the moderators are surly .

Like Brian (FHPhotographer) is so very fond of saying, you're wrong. The isn't a rough forum and the moderators aren't surly. Okay, maybe Damn Brit is a bit surly. However, welcome to the club. Damn Brit has been wrong. I've been wrong. And just about everyone else responding to a thread started by Brian, not in total agreement with him, has been wrong. Why were we wrong? Because Brian said so. Now I've added you to that long list of wrong people, so welcome once again.

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Like Brian (FHPhotographer) is so very fond of saying, you're wrong. The isn't a rough forum and the moderators aren't surly. Okay, maybe Damn Brit is a bit surly. However, welcome to the club. Damn Brit has been wrong. I've been wrong. And just about everyone else responding to a thread started by Brian, not in total agreement with him, has been wrong. Why were we wrong? Because Brian said so. Now I've added you to that long list of wrong people, so welcome once again.

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That's just so wrong!
03-12-2009, 12:14 PM   #19
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QuoteOriginally posted by stewart_photo Quote
Like Brian (FHPhotographer) is so very fond of saying, you're wrong. The isn't a rough forum and the moderators aren't surly. Okay, maybe Damn Brit is a bit surly. However, welcome to the club. Damn Brit has been wrong. I've been wrong. And just about everyone else responding to a thread started by Brian, not in total agreement with him, has been wrong. Why were we wrong? Because Brian said so. Now I've added you to that long list of wrong people, so welcome once again.

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LOL, how about starting a user group for us 'Wrongun's' Stewart?

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QuoteOriginally posted by stewart_photo Quote
Like Brian (FHPhotographer) is so very fond of saying, you're wrong. The isn't a rough forum and the moderators aren't surly. Okay, maybe Damn Brit is a bit surly. However, welcome to the club. Damn Brit has been wrong. I've been wrong. And just about everyone else responding to a thread started by Brian, not in total agreement with him, has been wrong. Why were we wrong? Because Brian said so. Now I've added you to that long list of wrong people, so welcome once again.

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So funny and true.

In Brian (FHPhotographer) we have found the true Descartes of the photography world, a worldview that is shaped and can exist only by what hls mind can conceive. Remember the famous Latin phrase cogito ergo sum (English: "I think, therefore I am")?

Well translated here it becomes... if he thinks that street photography is unethical and therefore it must be, and you're all wrong...
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This isn't moderation on my part.
I just figure if someone is apologising, people should cut that person some slack and not continue to berate them. I thought there was a bit more humanity on the forum than is apparent in this thread.
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Very nice, Brian. I, too have found myself a little too quick on the trigger here lately. I'll try to moderate myself better in the future.

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(snip) I just figure if someone is apologising, people should cut that person some slack (snip)

I thought I actually was cutting Brian some slack by simply joking about all this. Of course, I'm probably wrong about that as well, so will give it a rest.

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I thought I actually was cutting Brian some slack by simply joking about all this. Of course, I'm probably wrong about that as well, so will give it a rest.

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I see Brian has been posting in a few of the photo threads, perhaps we need to do more of that, very therapeutic.
I think most of us were guilty of simply hijacking Brians thread, it's lucky Brian wasn't participating.
I would like to apologise for my part in it Brian.
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I want to apologize to the Forum for my role in the growing adversarial tone in the Forum; I, for one, accept my share of blame for this.

After some consideration, I realized I have been applying verbal communication standards to a medium that is obviously nonverbal. Stripped of much of the context and nuance, even posts that I believe benign have elicited unfortunate response.

While some of my posts may been inappropriate and/or confrontational, so too, some of the posts to me, or about me, also have been inappropriate. I can do nothing about the latter, but I can do something about the former.

Therefore, resolved that, henceforward or whatever, all my future threads or posts will be photographic-specific comment, opinion or inquiry. I will not post any comment, opinion or observation beyond that photographic-specific information, nor will I respond to any post that includes inappropriate comment or invective directed toward me, or toward any other member of the Forum.

This may be common sense to most of you, but we all learn at different times and in different ways, and let’s hope this old dog has room for at least this one new trick,
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I am impressed with someone who has the guts to admit they made a mistake. The human condition, if it is to ameliorate, implores we admit our mistakes, thereby making growing out of them possible. It takes tremendous strength to publicy declare the above words--way to be Brian!

It also implores some humor now and then.
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Can we all do the group hug now and get back at each others throats now
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Well, I must've missed the thread in question, but "in my opinion" , Pentax Forums is already quite civil, and members much more willing to educate or share their knowledge, than some of the other places like DPR.

FWIW, I was over there a while back, and saw a post where somebody made a comment about selling other forum members' work. Didn't sound like a joke at all and when I questioned it, I was not made to feel very welcome! And I did make an apology for MY "mistake", but it was not even acknowledged. Stuff like that makes me hesitant to post -anything- over there, even if I feel like I may have something valid to contribute.
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