Here they come...

jct us101 · 05-20-2009, 06:09 PM

Get ready for the barage of bashing threads for the K-7. Hopefully we'll be able to keep them contained to that single thread.

GeneV · 05-20-2009, 06:35 PM

I'm sure it will come.

By the way, I like your moniker. Would that be the junction with 116?

Wheatfield · 05-20-2009, 07:22 PM

Hopefully no one will bash the thing until the testers actually start testing it.

dcreed · 05-20-2009, 07:32 PM

Personally, from the specs, there's a lot to not love about it. I've got a K20D, a K10D, an istDL, and a 645 medium format Pentax, and I see no reason to sidegrade to the K7 for a video feature I'd never use.

rfortson · 05-20-2009, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by dcreed

Personally, from the specs, there's a lot to not love about it. I've got a K20D, a K10D, an istDL, and a 645 medium format Pentax, and I see no reason to sidegrade to the K7 for a video feature I'd never use.

Great first post. Welcome to the board!

RawheaD · 05-20-2009, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by dcreed

Personally, from the specs, there's a lot to not love about it. I've got a K20D, a K10D, an istDL, and a 645 medium format Pentax, and I see no reason to sidegrade to the K7 for a video feature I'd never use.

Cuz 5.2fps is nothing. Even though so many K20D bashers bashed its 3fps, an extra 2.2fps means nothing.

Cuz compact size and lightweight is nothing. Even though so many K20D bashers (and istD lovers) bashed the size of K20D, shaving all that fat off to make the K-7, really isn't worth anything.

Cuz in-body {lateral CA correction, lens distortion correction, HDR, digital level, automatic tilt correction} are nothing. Most of them are K-7 only features that you don't see on any other camera, Pentax or otherwise, but who would want anything like that?

Cuz 100% viewfinder is nothing. That's stupid.

Works in super cold. Who would want that? Scandenavia? Where the hell is that?

77 point AE, that's sooo stupid. Obviously you only need 16 points.

Totally new sensor? Who gives?

New matt screen for better manual focusing. I don't manual focus. Stupid.

No no no. There's really nothing noteworthy here, except for video, which I will not use, so this thing blows.

shutterpuppy · 05-20-2009, 07:57 PM

Quote:

No no no. There's really nothing noteworthy here, except for video, which I will not use, so this thing blows.

I like the fact it does shoot video (especially HD video) I can think of all the "Christmas" things I could have shot on one large 16gb SD card in low light. From stills of the decorations and lights to the choirs singing using only candlelight. If noise levels are at least decent at 1600 and 3200 ISOs, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Then again, using my FA 50mm f 1.4 lens at lower ISOs in movie mode could really make this a true all-in-one photographic gem.

Barry

jct us101 · 05-20-2009, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

I'm sure it will come.

By the way, I like your moniker. Would that be the junction with 116?

Do you happen to live near there?

KungPOW · 05-20-2009, 08:55 PM

I like how the mode selection dial has a lock on it.

It will prevent all the "no video in my DSLR people" from accidentally shooting an epic youtube movie.

Damn Brit · 05-20-2009, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by RawheaD

Cuz 5.2fps is nothing. Even though so many K20D bashers bashed its 3fps, an extra 2.2fps means nothing.

Cuz compact size and lightweight is nothing. Even though so many K20D bashers (and istD lovers) bashed the size of K20D, shaving all that fat off to make the K-7, really isn't worth anything.

Cuz in-body {lateral CA correction, lens distortion correction, HDR, digital level, automatic tilt correction} are nothing. Most of them are K-7 only features that you don't see on any other camera, Pentax or otherwise, but who would want anything like that?

Cuz 100% viewfinder is nothing. That's stupid.

Works in super cold. Who would want that? Scandenavia? Where the hell is that?

77 point AE, that's sooo stupid. Obviously you only need 16 points.

Totally new sensor? Who gives?

New matt screen for better manual focusing. I don't manual focus. Stupid.

No no no. There's really nothing noteworthy here, except for video, which I will not use, so this thing blows.

I love irony.

MrEspie · 05-20-2009, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Damn Brit

I love irony.

It is delightful, isn't it?

Igilligan · 05-20-2009, 09:36 PM

The newbies bashin' the K7, the resident trolls, or all the kool-aid drinkers who seem to think just because it is written that it is true. How many times do we have to learn and re-learn these lessons....

Is there anyone just taking a wait and see approach?

My Grandpa use to say "Don't believe anything you read, and only half of what you see, especially if you've been drinkin' "
(actually with photoshop lets drop that to 1/8th of what you see)

Let's wait for some proof that all the new stuff works as advertised and that there are not any problems associated with all the new features, before we start slammin folks.

But boy the words on the page look really good.

**Digitalis** · 05-20-2009, 09:45 PM

here is a good one from a canon user " canon will blow the K7 away with their 20MP sensor, so hurry up canon"

if only MP was all that mattered.

shutterpuppy · 05-20-2009, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by Digitalis

here is a good one from a canon user " canon will blow the K7 away with their 20MP sensor, so hurry up canon"

if only MP was all that mattered.

Ask the Canon user to find a 10-20 year lens that will attach to the new or current model Canon and then laugh in their face

ryan s · 05-20-2009, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by KungPOW

I like how the mode selection dial has a lock on it.

It will prevent all the "no video in my DSLR people" from accidentally shooting an epic youtube movie.

Ugh...I don't miss explaining to customers why their pics aren't showing up to print because they're not pics. "What do you mean they're all videos?"

Originally posted by Igilligan

My Grandpa use to say "Don't believe anything you read, and only half of what you see, especially if you've been drinkin' "
(actually with photoshop lets drop that to 1/8th of what you see)

Now how does that proportion work for more drinks? Time for another Jack and Pepsi

(By the way...anyone who like Pepsi should give "Throwback" a try. The real sugar instead of corn sugar really makes it taste better. If it really is "for a limited time" I'm stocking up. And I only drink soda when out and water isn't available or making adult beverages

).

Originally posted by Digitalis

here is a good one from a canon user " canon will blow the K7 away with their 20MP sensor, so hurry up canon"

if only MP was all that mattered.

One of these years, I truly hope the big "MP" sticker or labels on cameras isn't the biggest feature stuck on a camera in a store.

So far, I've gotten a few responses from Canon users:
"wow the k-7 sounds badass.... makes me want to switch, but i know canon and nikon have something mo betta up their sleeves "

"Yeah that does sound like a great camera. I'll stick with Canon for now though."

Whatever they put out...bet on an MSRP of like $1700...thinking about it...I have barely a grand invested into Pentax and I make nice 16x20" prints and have a few 11x14s in the mail. So...I've found what works

Originally posted by shutterpuppy:

Ask the Canon user to find a 10-20 year lens that will attach to the new or current model Canon and then laugh in their face

Ironically...Eos cams are second in lens adaptation only to 4/3. Ironically in that...no older Canon lenses can be used

05-20-2009, 06:09 PM	#1
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	Here they come... Get ready for the barage of bashing threads for the K-7. Hopefully we'll be able to keep them contained to that single thread.

05-20-2009, 09:36 PM	#12
Igilligan Guest	I am shocked... I am not sure what is worse The newbies bashin' the K7, the resident trolls, or all the kool-aid drinkers who seem to think just because it is written that it is true. How many times do we have to learn and re-learn these lessons.... Is there anyone just taking a wait and see approach? My Grandpa use to say "Don't believe anything you read, and only half of what you see, especially if you've been drinkin' " (actually with photoshop lets drop that to 1/8th of what you see) Let's wait for some proof that all the new stuff works as advertised and that there are not any problems associated with all the new features, before we start slammin folks. But boy the words on the page look really good.

05-20-2009, 06:35 PM	#2
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	I'm sure it will come. By the way, I like your moniker. Would that be the junction with 116?

05-20-2009, 07:22 PM	#3
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,976	Hopefully no one will bash the thing until the testers actually start testing it.

05-20-2009, 07:32 PM	#4
dcreed New Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northern California Posts: 4	Personally, from the specs, there's a lot to not love about it. I've got a K20D, a K10D, an istDL, and a 645 medium format Pentax, and I see no reason to sidegrade to the K7 for a video feature I'd never use.

05-20-2009, 07:37 PM	#5
rfortson Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Houston TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,129	Originally posted by dcreed Personally, from the specs, there's a lot to not love about it. I've got a K20D, a K10D, an istDL, and a 645 medium format Pentax, and I see no reason to sidegrade to the K7 for a video feature I'd never use. Great first post. Welcome to the board!

05-20-2009, 07:43 PM	#6
RawheaD Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MA, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 831	Originally posted by dcreed Personally, from the specs, there's a lot to not love about it. I've got a K20D, a K10D, an istDL, and a 645 medium format Pentax, and I see no reason to sidegrade to the K7 for a video feature I'd never use. Cuz 5.2fps is nothing. Even though so many K20D bashers bashed its 3fps, an extra 2.2fps means nothing. Cuz compact size and lightweight is nothing. Even though so many K20D bashers (and istD lovers) bashed the size of K20D, shaving all that fat off to make the K-7, really isn't worth anything. Cuz in-body {lateral CA correction, lens distortion correction, HDR, digital level, automatic tilt correction} are nothing. Most of them are K-7 only features that you don't see on any other camera, Pentax or otherwise, but who would want anything like that? Cuz 100% viewfinder is nothing. That's stupid. Works in super cold. Who would want that? Scandenavia? Where the hell is that? 77 point AE, that's sooo stupid. Obviously you only need 16 points. Totally new sensor? Who gives? New matt screen for better manual focusing. I don't manual focus. Stupid. No no no. There's really nothing noteworthy here, except for video, which I will not use, so this thing blows.

05-20-2009, 07:57 PM	#7
shutterpuppy Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 319	Quote: No no no. There's really nothing noteworthy here, except for video, which I will not use, so this thing blows. I like the fact it does shoot video (especially HD video) I can think of all the "Christmas" things I could have shot on one large 16gb SD card in low light. From stills of the decorations and lights to the choirs singing using only candlelight. If noise levels are at least decent at 1600 and 3200 ISOs, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Then again, using my FA 50mm f 1.4 lens at lower ISOs in movie mode could really make this a true all-in-one photographic gem. Barry

05-20-2009, 08:25 PM	#8
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793 Original Poster	Originally posted by GeneV I'm sure it will come. By the way, I like your moniker. Would that be the junction with 116? Do you happen to live near there?

05-20-2009, 08:55 PM	#9
KungPOW Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,699	I like how the mode selection dial has a lock on it. It will prevent all the "no video in my DSLR people" from accidentally shooting an epic youtube movie.

05-20-2009, 09:00 PM	#10
Damn Brit Guest	Originally posted by RawheaD Cuz 5.2fps is nothing. Even though so many K20D bashers bashed its 3fps, an extra 2.2fps means nothing. Cuz compact size and lightweight is nothing. Even though so many K20D bashers (and istD lovers) bashed the size of K20D, shaving all that fat off to make the K-7, really isn't worth anything. Cuz in-body {lateral CA correction, lens distortion correction, HDR, digital level, automatic tilt correction} are nothing. Most of them are K-7 only features that you don't see on any other camera, Pentax or otherwise, but who would want anything like that? Cuz 100% viewfinder is nothing. That's stupid. Works in super cold. Who would want that? Scandenavia? Where the hell is that? 77 point AE, that's sooo stupid. Obviously you only need 16 points. Totally new sensor? Who gives? New matt screen for better manual focusing. I don't manual focus. Stupid. No no no. There's really nothing noteworthy here, except for video, which I will not use, so this thing blows. I love irony.

05-20-2009, 09:22 PM	#11
MrEspie Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: University of Waterloo, ON Photos: Gallery Posts: 239	Originally posted by Damn Brit I love irony. It is delightful, isn't it?

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05-20-2009, 09:45 PM	#13
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	here is a good one from a canon user " canon will blow the K7 away with their 20MP sensor, so hurry up canon" if only MP was all that mattered.

05-20-2009, 09:53 PM	#14
shutterpuppy Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 319	Originally posted by Digitalis here is a good one from a canon user " canon will blow the K7 away with their 20MP sensor, so hurry up canon" if only MP was all that mattered. Ask the Canon user to find a 10-20 year lens that will attach to the new or current model Canon and then laugh in their face

05-20-2009, 10:16 PM	#15
ryan s Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madison, WI Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,383	Originally posted by KungPOW I like how the mode selection dial has a lock on it. It will prevent all the "no video in my DSLR people" from accidentally shooting an epic youtube movie. Ugh...I don't miss explaining to customers why their pics aren't showing up to print because they're not pics. "What do you mean they're all videos?" Originally posted by Igilligan My Grandpa use to say "Don't believe anything you read, and only half of what you see, especially if you've been drinkin' " (actually with photoshop lets drop that to 1/8th of what you see) Now how does that proportion work for more drinks? Time for another Jack and Pepsi (By the way...anyone who like Pepsi should give "Throwback" a try. The real sugar instead of corn sugar really makes it taste better. If it really is "for a limited time" I'm stocking up. And I only drink soda when out and water isn't available or making adult beverages ). Originally posted by Digitalis here is a good one from a canon user " canon will blow the K7 away with their 20MP sensor, so hurry up canon" if only MP was all that mattered. One of these years, I truly hope the big "MP" sticker or labels on cameras isn't the biggest feature stuck on a camera in a store. So far, I've gotten a few responses from Canon users: "wow the k-7 sounds badass.... makes me want to switch, but i know canon and nikon have something mo betta up their sleeves " "Yeah that does sound like a great camera. I'll stick with Canon for now though." Whatever they put out...bet on an MSRP of like $1700...thinking about it...I have barely a grand invested into Pentax and I make nice 16x20" prints and have a few 11x14s in the mail. So...I've found what works Originally posted by shutterpuppy: Ask the Canon user to find a 10-20 year lens that will attach to the new or current model Canon and then laugh in their face Ironically...Eos cams are second in lens adaptation only to 4/3. Ironically in that...no older Canon lenses can be used