What will Dpreview give the K-7

jct us101 · 07-10-2009, 09:08 AM

Everything they've reviewed lately has been getting a highly recommended, but I have a feeling that will end when they review our newest Pentax camera.

RBellavance · 07-10-2009, 09:25 AM

I believe they will give it a Highly Recommend (without any reservation), just to get the Pentax mob off their back

**GaryM** · 07-10-2009, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by RBellavance

I believe they will give it a Highly Recommend (without any reservation), just to get the Pentax mob off their back

They will review it using their standard methodology: JPEGs first and foremost, at default settings, with a bit of RAW testing thrown in too. Since I doubt that the Pentax JPEG engine at default settings will please them much, the K-7 will get knocked a bit on image quality. It may still get a 'Highly Recommended', but there may be a parenthetical modifier to it. And there will be much lamentation throughout Pentaxland.

kent · 07-10-2009, 10:00 AM

Highly recomended (just) or highly recommended (If you shoot raw)

wlachan · 07-10-2009, 10:34 AM

"Highly recomended (just)", but what they really mean would be "Below Average" cos "Highly Recommended" is "Average" in actuality. The truth is the final rating has become so meaningless, I wonder why people are so bothered by them. Just read the details and forget the rating.

a a i b · 07-10-2009, 11:35 AM

Highly recommended (with reservations)

and · 07-10-2009, 12:01 PM

Highly recommended (insert "BUT..." statement here).

Tho if we look at the k20d which has a very similar photo output>
* Continuous shooting rate slow by modern standards
* Hot pixels can occur and can't be automatically removed
* Noise reduction cannot be raised as high as the competition
* Live view mode adds very little to the camera (it is neither seamless nor able to usefully magnify)
* Autofocus not as fast or consistent in low light as the more expensive competition
* Menu navigation a little clunky and won't revert to last-used location
* Would have been nice to have hard buttons for White Balance
* Average automatic white balance performance, still very poor under incandescent light
* Flash must be raised for AF assist (although AF works even in very low light)

it would seem several of those have been addressed. Im sure they will find some new ones

kcmadr · 07-10-2009, 12:13 PM

I think DPReview will rate the K-7 as "Highly Recommended" without any feeble (Just) comments.

Igilligan · 07-10-2009, 12:21 PM

If they get a good copy, they will probably give it a HR with res...

If they get one that has the green line down it, or one with the crazy noise issues like was just posted on DPR, then all bets are off.

I do hope they get a good copy, without any serious issues... or else the angry tears may just drown us all!

Steve Beswick · 07-10-2009, 12:33 PM

It depends on if Pentax puts a Canon or Nikon badge on it.

joeyc · 07-10-2009, 12:37 PM

As someone who puts little credibility in technical reviews (there is always some form of bias), I really hope the K7 does well. As a recent convert from the Olympus side (for the past 5 years), I am counting on the K7 to be the E-1 replacement Olympus never made. The E-1 has a cult like following (myself included). Still have mine and never will get rid of it. Great ergonomics, quiet shutter, smooth IQ with great colors...

I want to see Pentax solidify their place in the market with a well rounded, well received body. We know the IQ is there (k20), but the other 'parts' of the camera complete the package. It is important that expectations are in line with where the K7 fits in the market place. It's not full frame, so ISO comparisons are irrelevant. It's not entry level, although the pricepoint is only slightly higher. It's kinda in a league of its own.

**SelrahCharleS** · 07-10-2009, 12:43 PM

The K20D received a "Highly Recommended" rating and this camera actually fixes a lot of the things they listed in the cons. So unless there are quality control issues I don't see the K-7 faring any worse.

Edvinas · 07-12-2009, 04:07 AM

As many have already pointed out, K20D got Highly Recommended witout any clauses. I don't hink K-7 will be different. K-7 will get exactly the same marks as K20D, except performance, here it will get 8.5 (0.5 increase compared to K20D).

bladerunner0427 · 07-12-2009, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Steve Beswick

It depends on if Pentax puts a Canon or Nikon badge on it.

LOL

gerald

kristoffon · 07-12-2009, 01:01 PM

I heard they'll be introducing new review criteria such as "everyone-has-one factor" and "lots-of-money-status factor" so I'd expect they give it a "pass" recommendation.

07-10-2009, 09:08 AM	#1
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	What will Dpreview give the K-7 Everything they've reviewed lately has been getting a highly recommended, but I have a feeling that will end when they review our newest Pentax camera.

07-10-2009, 12:21 PM	#9
Igilligan Guest	It depends If they get a good copy, they will probably give it a HR with res... If they get one that has the green line down it, or one with the crazy noise issues like was just posted on DPR, then all bets are off. I do hope they get a good copy, without any serious issues... or else the angry tears may just drown us all!

07-10-2009, 12:43 PM	#12
SelrahCharleS Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 935	Well The K20D received a "Highly Recommended" rating and this camera actually fixes a lot of the things they listed in the cons. So unless there are quality control issues I don't see the K-7 faring any worse.

07-12-2009, 04:07 AM	#13
Edvinas Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kaunas Posts: 1,458	Highly Recommended As many have already pointed out, K20D got Highly Recommended witout any clauses. I don't hink K-7 will be different. K-7 will get exactly the same marks as K20D, except performance, here it will get 8.5 (0.5 increase compared to K20D).

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07-10-2009, 09:25 AM	#2
RBellavance Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Near Montréal, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,716	I believe they will give it a Highly Recommend (without any reservation), just to get the Pentax mob off their back

07-10-2009, 09:50 AM	#3
GaryM Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montclair, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 426	Originally posted by RBellavance I believe they will give it a Highly Recommend (without any reservation), just to get the Pentax mob off their back They will review it using their standard methodology: JPEGs first and foremost, at default settings, with a bit of RAW testing thrown in too. Since I doubt that the Pentax JPEG engine at default settings will please them much, the K-7 will get knocked a bit on image quality. It may still get a 'Highly Recommended', but there may be a parenthetical modifier to it. And there will be much lamentation throughout Pentaxland.

07-10-2009, 10:00 AM	#4
kent Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lithuania Photos: Gallery Posts: 344	Highly recomended (just) or highly recommended (If you shoot raw)

07-10-2009, 10:34 AM	#5
wlachan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 2,625	"Highly recomended (just)", but what they really mean would be "Below Average" cos "Highly Recommended" is "Average" in actuality. The truth is the final rating has become so meaningless, I wonder why people are so bothered by them. Just read the details and forget the rating.

07-10-2009, 11:35 AM	#6
a a i b Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brooklyn Photos: Gallery Posts: 315	Highly recommended (with reservations)

07-10-2009, 12:01 PM	#7
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	Highly recommended (insert "BUT..." statement here). Tho if we look at the k20d which has a very similar photo output> * Continuous shooting rate slow by modern standards * Hot pixels can occur and can't be automatically removed * Noise reduction cannot be raised as high as the competition * Live view mode adds very little to the camera (it is neither seamless nor able to usefully magnify) * Autofocus not as fast or consistent in low light as the more expensive competition * Menu navigation a little clunky and won't revert to last-used location * Would have been nice to have hard buttons for White Balance * Average automatic white balance performance, still very poor under incandescent light * Flash must be raised for AF assist (although AF works even in very low light) it would seem several of those have been addressed. Im sure they will find some new ones

07-10-2009, 12:13 PM	#8
kcmadr Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Albums Posts: 614	I think DPReview will rate the K-7 as "Highly Recommended" without any feeble (Just) comments.

07-10-2009, 12:33 PM	#10
Steve Beswick Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ontario, California Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,736	It depends on if Pentax puts a Canon or Nikon badge on it.

07-10-2009, 12:37 PM	#11
joeyc Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 478	As someone who puts little credibility in technical reviews (there is always some form of bias), I really hope the K7 does well. As a recent convert from the Olympus side (for the past 5 years), I am counting on the K7 to be the E-1 replacement Olympus never made. The E-1 has a cult like following (myself included). Still have mine and never will get rid of it. Great ergonomics, quiet shutter, smooth IQ with great colors... I want to see Pentax solidify their place in the market with a well rounded, well received body. We know the IQ is there (k20), but the other 'parts' of the camera complete the package. It is important that expectations are in line with where the K7 fits in the market place. It's not full frame, so ISO comparisons are irrelevant. It's not entry level, although the pricepoint is only slightly higher. It's kinda in a league of its own.

07-12-2009, 11:20 AM	#14
bladerunner0427 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 113	Originally posted by Steve Beswick It depends on if Pentax puts a Canon or Nikon badge on it. LOL gerald

07-12-2009, 01:01 PM	#15
kristoffon Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 532	I heard they'll be introducing new review criteria such as "everyone-has-one factor" and "lots-of-money-status factor" so I'd expect they give it a "pass" recommendation.