How to setup light for these effect?

quaker · 11-10-2009, 03:27 PM

I am curious how to setup light to set this effect? Did he use bounce flash, studio light or something else?

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ramair455 · 11-10-2009, 03:32 PM

Those shots could have been lit with fresnal "hot" spotlites or pars. You could also reproduce this lighting using strobe light with barndoored reflectors/ or wide grid - balanced with available light. The group shots have multiple light sources, with some directly overhead. Which leads me to believe that they are lit the theater/stage lighting

**Ash** · 11-10-2009, 03:33 PM

Looks like downlighting (multiple halogen lights I think) from within the room he was shooting in. Doesn't look like he added any flash, but it's hard to tell.

Shooting in these conditions requires a fast lens and correct white balancing.

quaker · 11-10-2009, 03:48 PM

Ash, I just look at your flickr wedding gallery, your photos are amazing. I noticed some of your outdoor wedding photos have flash on, but they look like very nature and brilliant. Could I know how did you use your flash to achieve them?

Originally posted by Ash

Looks like downlighting (multiple halogen lights I think) from within the room he was shooting in. Doesn't look like he added any flash, but it's hard to tell.

Shooting in these conditions requires a fast lens and correct white balancing.

quaker · 11-10-2009, 03:54 PM

thanks! the scene should be at a stage. Really wish I can reproduce it with a flash and reflector at home, that will be very cool. :-)

Originally posted by ramair455

Those shots could have been lit with fresnal "hot" spotlites or pars. You could also reproduce this lighting using strobe light with barndoored reflectors/ or wide grid - balanced with available light. The group shots have multiple light sources, with some directly overhead. Which leads me to believe that they are lit the theater/stage lighting

**Ash** · 11-10-2009, 03:58 PM

My outdoor shots were mostly taken under ambient light conditions, some with a touch of fill flash.
Indoor shots were all supplemented with a flash bouncing off either the ceiling or an umbrella (off-camera).

quaker · 11-10-2009, 04:10 PM

Very nice tips. thanks! I am going to shoot a wedding soon. So maybe I should go to use a studio umbrella on the day.

Originally posted by Ash

My outdoor shots were mostly taken under ambient light conditions, some with a touch of fill flash.
Indoor shots were all supplemented with a flash bouncing off either the ceiling or an umbrella (off-camera).

ramair455 · 11-10-2009, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by quaker

thanks! the scene should be at a stage. Really wish I can reproduce it with a flash and reflector at home, that will be very cool. :-)

You probably could with a cheap quartz 100w spot/accent light from any hardware store.

Wheatfield · 11-10-2009, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by ramair455

Those shots could have been lit with fresnal "hot" spotlites or pars. You could also reproduce this lighting using strobe light with barndoored reflectors/ or wide grid - balanced with available light. The group shots have multiple light sources, with some directly overhead. Which leads me to believe that they are lit the theater/stage lighting

It's got to be a gridded light, probably a beauty dish.
He's done quite well to balance the ambient to his flash, but I wish he'd put a bastard amber filter on his flash and then fixd the whole thing with white balance.
As it is, I find the skin tones on the cool side.
It's a nice set overall..

Damn Brit · 11-10-2009, 11:16 PM

It's no good getting the lighting right if most of your models have either a toilet sign or an exit sign sticking out of their heads. Placing the lights opposite reflective surfaces isn't the brightest of ideas either. He needs to work on his composition.

ramair455 · 11-12-2009, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

It's got to be a gridded light, probably a beauty dish.

Very well could be. I have a Norman 22" dish with a 15 degree grid(I wish Norman a one wider) and a set of 4-way barn doors. Using my Norman dish with a grid, the light would be to narrow. I would have to resort to the barn doors.

Wheatfield · 11-12-2009, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by ramair455

Very well could be. I have a Norman 22" dish with a 15 degree grid(I wish Norman a one wider) and a set of 4-way barn doors. Using my Norman dish with a grid, the light would be to narrow. I would have to resort to the barn doors.

15º is pretty narrow.
Check with Saxon Computers, they sell raw grid fabric that you can put into your own frame. I couldn't get a grid for my Photogenic dish so I bought one of his grids. Now I just have to make the frame for it.

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11-10-2009, 03:32 PM	#2
ramair455 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Okc Photos: Gallery Posts: 284	Those shots could have been lit with fresnal "hot" spotlites or pars. You could also reproduce this lighting using strobe light with barndoored reflectors/ or wide grid - balanced with available light. The group shots have multiple light sources, with some directly overhead. Which leads me to believe that they are lit the theater/stage lighting

11-10-2009, 03:33 PM	#3
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Looks like downlighting (multiple halogen lights I think) from within the room he was shooting in. Doesn't look like he added any flash, but it's hard to tell. Shooting in these conditions requires a fast lens and correct white balancing.

11-10-2009, 03:48 PM	#4
quaker New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: United States Posts: 22 Original Poster	Ash, I just look at your flickr wedding gallery, your photos are amazing. I noticed some of your outdoor wedding photos have flash on, but they look like very nature and brilliant. Could I know how did you use your flash to achieve them? Originally posted by Ash Looks like downlighting (multiple halogen lights I think) from within the room he was shooting in. Doesn't look like he added any flash, but it's hard to tell. Shooting in these conditions requires a fast lens and correct white balancing.

11-10-2009, 03:54 PM	#5
quaker New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: United States Posts: 22 Original Poster	thanks! the scene should be at a stage. Really wish I can reproduce it with a flash and reflector at home, that will be very cool. :-) Originally posted by ramair455 Those shots could have been lit with fresnal "hot" spotlites or pars. You could also reproduce this lighting using strobe light with barndoored reflectors/ or wide grid - balanced with available light. The group shots have multiple light sources, with some directly overhead. Which leads me to believe that they are lit the theater/stage lighting

11-10-2009, 03:58 PM	#6
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	My outdoor shots were mostly taken under ambient light conditions, some with a touch of fill flash. Indoor shots were all supplemented with a flash bouncing off either the ceiling or an umbrella (off-camera).

11-10-2009, 04:10 PM	#7
quaker New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: United States Posts: 22 Original Poster	Very nice tips. thanks! I am going to shoot a wedding soon. So maybe I should go to use a studio umbrella on the day. Originally posted by Ash My outdoor shots were mostly taken under ambient light conditions, some with a touch of fill flash. Indoor shots were all supplemented with a flash bouncing off either the ceiling or an umbrella (off-camera).

11-10-2009, 05:34 PM	#8
ramair455 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Okc Photos: Gallery Posts: 284	Originally posted by quaker thanks! the scene should be at a stage. Really wish I can reproduce it with a flash and reflector at home, that will be very cool. :-) You probably could with a cheap quartz 100w spot/accent light from any hardware store.

11-10-2009, 11:06 PM	#9
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,975	Originally posted by ramair455 Those shots could have been lit with fresnal "hot" spotlites or pars. You could also reproduce this lighting using strobe light with barndoored reflectors/ or wide grid - balanced with available light. The group shots have multiple light sources, with some directly overhead. Which leads me to believe that they are lit the theater/stage lighting It's got to be a gridded light, probably a beauty dish. He's done quite well to balance the ambient to his flash, but I wish he'd put a bastard amber filter on his flash and then fixd the whole thing with white balance. As it is, I find the skin tones on the cool side. It's a nice set overall..

11-10-2009, 11:16 PM	#10
Damn Brit Guest	It's no good getting the lighting right if most of your models have either a toilet sign or an exit sign sticking out of their heads. Placing the lights opposite reflective surfaces isn't the brightest of ideas either. He needs to work on his composition.

11-12-2009, 01:37 PM	#11
ramair455 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Okc Photos: Gallery Posts: 284	Originally posted by Wheatfield It's got to be a gridded light, probably a beauty dish. Very well could be. I have a Norman 22" dish with a 15 degree grid(I wish Norman a one wider) and a set of 4-way barn doors. Using my Norman dish with a grid, the light would be to narrow. I would have to resort to the barn doors.

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11-12-2009, 03:37 PM	#12
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,975	Originally posted by ramair455 Very well could be. I have a Norman 22" dish with a 15 degree grid(I wish Norman a one wider) and a set of 4-way barn doors. Using my Norman dish with a grid, the light would be to narrow. I would have to resort to the barn doors. 15º is pretty narrow. Check with Saxon Computers, they sell raw grid fabric that you can put into your own frame. I couldn't get a grid for my Photogenic dish so I bought one of his grids. Now I just have to make the frame for it.