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**Ash** · 09-09-2010, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by Northern Soul

Am I right in thinking the 35mm isn't even SDM?

It's a good price point, and it fills a gap for those of us without a stock of old lenses (think of all the new K-m K-x buyers) but if it's not SDm then I'd be looking to get a Sigma HSM standard prime instead if I were buying now.

You can be assured that the 35/2.4 is a screwdriven plastic fantastic.

If you've got the money, of course you'd go for the Sigma 30/1.4 HSM

yenemy · 09-09-2010, 03:24 AM

What a strange product. While the K-r sounds like a great camera, I wish they'd also announced an upgrade to the K-7. While I love my K10 dearly, its low-light performance leaves much to be desired compared to the competition, and from what I've heard/read this hasn't changed much in the K20 OR the K7.

I guess I'm just kind of impatient to see what they have in store for the enthusiast/semipro bodies.

**Ash** · 09-09-2010, 03:27 AM

There's at least one stop improvement in high-ISO performance from K10D to K20D/K-7, but the new K-5 will prove a vast improvement from the K10D - you'll find your lenses all transform quite drastically, both in AF speed and low-light capability.

Enjoy waiting - less than 2 weeks now...

JeremytheIndian · 09-09-2010, 04:13 AM

I am often irritated by the quality of the LCD on my K-x. If they have improved the LCD in addition to making it larger then I may be trading her in for the K-r. I always regretted not buying the white one anyways.

purri · 09-09-2010, 04:22 AM

Where's the BIG primes? FFS!

**Ash** · 09-09-2010, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by purri

Where's the BIG primes? FFS!

Which ones do you mean?

garyk · 09-09-2010, 05:33 AM

I want the white one. Kinda cool. I will be different in the jungle with a white and black body.... I cannot wait.
I am so glad they didn't screw up the sensor.

pentaxpup · 09-09-2010, 05:56 AM

I am excited about the AF assist and visible focus indicators. I wish I have those on my K-x. I would love to trade in the K-x, but I don't want to put up an extra few hundreds for such upgrade. If I do upgrade, I would love to get the white one this time.

Fl_Gulfer · 09-09-2010, 06:01 AM

Y couldn't this be WR? the wife wants a new camera to replace her K100d but she wants a WR camera.
I guess I'll have to give her my K-7 and get the K-5 in Oct.

MrCynical · 09-09-2010, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by Ash

You can be assured that the 35/2.4 is a screwdriven plastic fantastic.

If you've got the money, of course you'd go for the Sigma 30/1.4 HSM

...which doesn't have HSM in Pentax mount.

Originally posted by Fl_Gulfer

Y couldn't this be WR? the wife wants a new camera to replace her K100d but she wants a WR camera.
I guess I'll have to give her my K-7 and get the K-5 in Oct.

The entry-level cameras have never been WR (for comparison, you have to go to a D300 to get weatherseals from Nikon), nor have the DA-L lenses.

Eruditass · 09-09-2010, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by MrCynical

...which doesn't have HSM in Pentax mount.

The entry-level cameras have never been WR (for comparison, you have to go to a D300 to get weatherseals from Nikon), nor have the DA-L lenses.

Is this not slotted as mid-level?

**barondla** · 09-09-2010, 06:40 AM

Nice sounding camera. What is the part about k & M leneses working in av at only wide open aperture? Hope this is incorrect!

Marketing wise, hate that they have ditched the K-x name. We finally get a camera that sells well and has a lot of good press and they change the name. Unless they aim to keep the K-x in the line up too.

Ready for the K-5 announcing later in the year.

thanks
barondla

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wasser · 09-09-2010, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by barondla

Nice sounding camera. What is the part about k & M leneses working in av at only wide open aperture? Hope this is incorrect!

Where did you see that? And isn't that consistent with all Pentax DSLRs? K and M lenses have no electrical contacts to communicate aperture data, and the DSLRs can't continuously stop the lens down to properly operate Av, so Av mode only works when wide open because the lens is basically stuck there until the shot is taken.

However, manual works great with the "green" button or whatever button you use to meter in manual.

opiet70 · 09-09-2010, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by Miserere

My opinion can be found here, where I answer most of your questions.

No idea what the IQ might be, but it better be OUTSTANDING given the low specs and high price.

...

great comments!

opiet70 · 09-09-2010, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by Ash

There's at least one stop improvement in high-ISO performance from K10D to K20D/K-7, but the new K-5 will prove a vast improvement from the K10D - you'll find your lenses all transform quite drastically, both in AF speed and low-light capability.

Enjoy waiting - less than 2 weeks now...

I hope so. I'm buying another body and hope it's the K5. My K10D has been a great camera, but I need a second body and better performance in several areas!

09-09-2010, 06:14 AM	#25
MrCynical Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 132	Originally posted by Ash You can be assured that the 35/2.4 is a screwdriven plastic fantastic. If you've got the money, of course you'd go for the Sigma 30/1.4 HSM ...which doesn't have HSM in Pentax mount. Originally posted by Fl_Gulfer Y couldn't this be WR? the wife wants a new camera to replace her K100d but she wants a WR camera. I guess I'll have to give her my K-7 and get the K-5 in Oct. The entry-level cameras have never been WR (for comparison, you have to go to a D300 to get weatherseals from Nikon), nor have the DA-L lenses. Last edited by MrCynical; 09-09-2010 at 06:20 AM.

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09-09-2010, 03:02 AM	#16
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Originally posted by Northern Soul Am I right in thinking the 35mm isn't even SDM? It's a good price point, and it fills a gap for those of us without a stock of old lenses (think of all the new K-m K-x buyers) but if it's not SDm then I'd be looking to get a Sigma HSM standard prime instead if I were buying now. You can be assured that the 35/2.4 is a screwdriven plastic fantastic. If you've got the money, of course you'd go for the Sigma 30/1.4 HSM

09-09-2010, 03:24 AM	#17
yenemy Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 81	What a strange product. While the K-r sounds like a great camera, I wish they'd also announced an upgrade to the K-7. While I love my K10 dearly, its low-light performance leaves much to be desired compared to the competition, and from what I've heard/read this hasn't changed much in the K20 OR the K7. I guess I'm just kind of impatient to see what they have in store for the enthusiast/semipro bodies.

09-09-2010, 03:27 AM	#18
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	There's at least one stop improvement in high-ISO performance from K10D to K20D/K-7, but the new K-5 will prove a vast improvement from the K10D - you'll find your lenses all transform quite drastically, both in AF speed and low-light capability. Enjoy waiting - less than 2 weeks now...

09-09-2010, 04:13 AM	#19
JeremytheIndian Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Central North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 121	I am often irritated by the quality of the LCD on my K-x. If they have improved the LCD in addition to making it larger then I may be trading her in for the K-r. I always regretted not buying the white one anyways.

09-09-2010, 04:22 AM	#20
purri New Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Sydney OZ. Posts: 8	Where's the BIG primes? FFS!

09-09-2010, 04:25 AM	#21
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	Originally posted by purri Where's the BIG primes? FFS! Which ones do you mean?

09-09-2010, 05:33 AM	#22
garyk Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 488	I want the white one. Kinda cool. I will be different in the jungle with a white and black body.... I cannot wait. I am so glad they didn't screw up the sensor.

09-09-2010, 05:56 AM	#23
pentaxpup Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2009 Photos: Albums Posts: 79	I am excited about the AF assist and visible focus indicators. I wish I have those on my K-x. I would love to trade in the K-x, but I don't want to put up an extra few hundreds for such upgrade. If I do upgrade, I would love to get the white one this time.

09-09-2010, 06:01 AM	#24
Fl_Gulfer Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Gulfer Photos: Albums Posts: 3,054	Y couldn't this be WR? the wife wants a new camera to replace her K100d but she wants a WR camera. I guess I'll have to give her my K-7 and get the K-5 in Oct.

09-09-2010, 06:31 AM	#26
Eruditass Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by MrCynical ...which doesn't have HSM in Pentax mount. The entry-level cameras have never been WR (for comparison, you have to go to a D300 to get weatherseals from Nikon), nor have the DA-L lenses. Is this not slotted as mid-level?

09-09-2010, 06:40 AM	#27
barondla Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: midwest, United States Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,717	Nice sounding camera. What is the part about k & M leneses working in av at only wide open aperture? Hope this is incorrect! Marketing wise, hate that they have ditched the K-x name. We finally get a camera that sells well and has a lot of good press and they change the name. Unless they aim to keep the K-x in the line up too. Ready for the K-5 announcing later in the year. thanks barondla Check out POINT & SHOOT CONTEST #33 in compact camera forums. Enter #34. Any brand camera. Enter now!

09-09-2010, 07:16 AM	#28
wasser Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: northern ca Photos: Gallery Posts: 427	Originally posted by barondla Nice sounding camera. What is the part about k & M leneses working in av at only wide open aperture? Hope this is incorrect! Where did you see that? And isn't that consistent with all Pentax DSLRs? K and M lenses have no electrical contacts to communicate aperture data, and the DSLRs can't continuously stop the lens down to properly operate Av, so Av mode only works when wide open because the lens is basically stuck there until the shot is taken. However, manual works great with the "green" button or whatever button you use to meter in manual.

09-09-2010, 07:18 AM	#29
opiet70 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 499	Originally posted by Miserere My opinion can be found here, where I answer most of your questions. No idea what the IQ might be, but it better be OUTSTANDING given the low specs and high price. ... great comments!

09-09-2010, 07:43 AM	#30
opiet70 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 499	Originally posted by Ash There's at least one stop improvement in high-ISO performance from K10D to K20D/K-7, but the new K-5 will prove a vast improvement from the K10D - you'll find your lenses all transform quite drastically, both in AF speed and low-light capability. Enjoy waiting - less than 2 weeks now... I hope so. I'm buying another body and hope it's the K5. My K10D has been a great camera, but I need a second body and better performance in several areas!

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