Landscape Grand Canyon

stl09 · 06-09-2010, 10:08 PM

One of my first attempts of wide angle landscape

Last edited by stl09; 11-01-2010 at 02:48 PM.

Adam · 06-10-2010, 08:01 AM

A good try, but I don't think it works. What you've got going here is a framing effect, but what's being framed (the canyon) doesn't stand out or draw attention (which it always should in these kinds of shots).

SpecialK · 06-10-2010, 09:01 AM

Framing aside, no doubt someone will post that with such a wide-angle lens, using f22 for the depth is not needed, and in fact may cause diffraction which will degrade the image.

stl09 · 06-10-2010, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by SpecialK

Framing aside, no doubt someone will post that with such a wide-angle lens, using f22 for the depth is not needed, and in fact may cause diffraction which will degrade the image.

I'm still learning could you provide a bit more detail on your statement.

Thanks,

stl09 · 06-10-2010, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Adam

A good try, but I don't think it works. What you've got going here is a framing effect, but what's being framed (the canyon) doesn't stand out or draw attention (which it always should in these kinds of shots).

Your right now that I look at this fits the description of a framed picture. I will review my other shots and post a better canyon shot.

Putting the framing aside. What about exposure, color, etc.?

I shot almost the entire trip on manual trying to think about all the different aspects of picture taking. I was really surprised at how many of the shots I was pleased with. To me they didn't seem over or underexposed. If anything I usually shot maybe one mark to the minus, figured I could always fix later. All four of these shots I posted had no alterations just straight from the camera.

SpecialK · 06-10-2010, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by stl09

I'm still learning could you provide a bit more detail on your statement.

Thanks,

The shorter the focal length, the more in focus for a given aperture, so a wide angle lens does not need such a small an aperture to obtain that depth of focus.

Using a small aperture (large number) makes a really small hole for the light to go through. As it does so, it gets bent even more than normal, which leads to loss of contrast and/or resolution.

So I'm told. I don't peep that close to notice, though others may :-)

mapleneckblues · 06-10-2010, 03:31 PM

Apart from the compositional issues that others mentioned, the colors are a bit too cool for my taste. I think your white balance is off. Did you shoot raw? If so, you might want to try adjusting it.

06-09-2010, 10:08 PM	#1
stl09 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St. Louis, MO Photos: Gallery Posts: 487	Grand Canyon Lens: Sigma 10-20mm f3.5 Camera: K7 Photo Location: Grand Canyon ISO: 200 Shutter Speed: 1/45s Aperture: F22 One of my first attempts of wide angle landscape Last edited by stl09; 11-01-2010 at 02:48 PM.

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stl09 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St. Louis, MO Photos: Gallery Posts: 487 Original Poster	Grand Canyon Originally posted by SpecialK Framing aside, no doubt someone will post that with such a wide-angle lens, using f22 for the depth is not needed, and in fact may cause diffraction which will degrade the image. I'm still learning could you provide a bit more detail on your statement. Thanks,

06-10-2010, 12:10 PM	#5
stl09 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St. Louis, MO Photos: Gallery Posts: 487 Original Poster	Grand Canyon Originally posted by Adam A good try, but I don't think it works. What you've got going here is a framing effect, but what's being framed (the canyon) doesn't stand out or draw attention (which it always should in these kinds of shots). Your right now that I look at this fits the description of a framed picture. I will review my other shots and post a better canyon shot. Putting the framing aside. What about exposure, color, etc.? I shot almost the entire trip on manual trying to think about all the different aspects of picture taking. I was really surprised at how many of the shots I was pleased with. To me they didn't seem over or underexposed. If anything I usually shot maybe one mark to the minus, figured I could always fix later. All four of these shots I posted had no alterations just straight from the camera.

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06-10-2010, 09:01 AM	#3
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,480	Framing aside, no doubt someone will post that with such a wide-angle lens, using f22 for the depth is not needed, and in fact may cause diffraction which will degrade the image.

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SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,480	Originally posted by stl09 I'm still learning could you provide a bit more detail on your statement. Thanks, The shorter the focal length, the more in focus for a given aperture, so a wide angle lens does not need such a small an aperture to obtain that depth of focus. Using a small aperture (large number) makes a really small hole for the light to go through. As it does so, it gets bent even more than normal, which leads to loss of contrast and/or resolution. So I'm told. I don't peep that close to notice, though others may :-)

06-10-2010, 03:31 PM	#7
mapleneckblues Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 91	Apart from the compositional issues that others mentioned, the colors are a bit too cool for my taste. I think your white balance is off. Did you shoot raw? If so, you might want to try adjusting it.