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08-07-2010, 03:42 PM   #1
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Oxbow Bend - Grand tetons
Lens: FA43 Camera: K-7 Photo Location: Grand Teton national park 

I did some critical/sensitive post processing. I would really appreciate feedback on how the image appears.......any artifacts or clear evidence of post processing , how are the colors, are the trees too dark/too light and overall impression.

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08-07-2010, 04:33 PM   #2
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Another version


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I like the second one with the clouds not so dark. Did you lighten the clouds in the sky though and not in the reflection? The clouds in the reflection look unchanged from the first.

I don't think the trees look at all natural. They just don't look like they belong there. Also, the star of the show is the sky and mountains. The trees just distract the eye.

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Those are really awesome.

But...looks like a leaning horizon. Well, maybe the center shoreline is deceptive that way.

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Sorry, these two look very similar to me - I guess I'd need to look at them next to each other to see the difference. You might remove the branches or whatever they are from the lower right by just cropping off that side of the image.

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No 2 for me .... a bit lighter
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Excellent feedback, thank you. The appearance of the leaning horizon is from the leaning fog line which is hugging the shore which is leaning.

My latest version, hopefully the green on the trees is still visible.




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Sorry, just too surreal for me.

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I think it looks better now, although the most important thing is that you like it.
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I like the last version best, with more natural colors and levels. But it's just a matter of taste, nothing wrong with the first ones if you deliberately accentuated a few things.
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quite surreal effect. first one is better if this is the aim. i am a newby at photography but fairly well read on art. the composition is too centered. try a version with either more sky, less water or vice versa and see how you like it. also would move the high hill apex to about 1/3 from the left margin. yours is closer to the 1/2 mark. these are just cropping suggestions to see how you like them. thanks for sharing
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#2 is OK, though the above sentiments do apply - PP a little overly done causing unrealistic colour casts.

What also makes this image less brilliant is the lack of lighting falling upon the subject - the mountain and foreground matter seems too dark for the scene, and could have done with some dodging. An exposure taken a few minutes later with less background light in the sky may have balanced out the lighting a little better.
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It does not matter to me whether you lose some colours due to the tonal range. I find squashing the tonal range into something visible via tricks like HDR does not replicate what I see and immediately triggers a "uh-oh HDR" type sensation. Its a great picture otherwise, fantastic scenery. I'd imagine flipping into black and white and increasing the contrast would be very appealing. Maybe I would crop the foreground vegitation out of the lower right and forget about the green of the trees on the left. In fact, I find the green detracts from the soft pastel blue in the sky, which is already a contrasting colour with the orange.
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Thank you all, my final version got into the PPG premier collection, my third one in there.

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