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Gaelen · 02-21-2011, 10:38 AM

I love the clarity of this picture but I'm not sure about some of the rest of it. Any opinions and suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Northern Soul · 02-21-2011, 10:59 AM

In a perfect world I'd want the car to be a bit more brightly painted to contrast with the dust more, and there would be a tad more room on the left for it to slide in to, and to balance the plume.

Back in this world, this is well executed - sharp, well balanced and well framed. Nice panning.

**firefly** · 02-21-2011, 11:09 AM

That's a very good shot in my opinion, good subject sharpness on a non-distinct panning background that gives great context of speed. Since you wanted a critique... I'd straighten it. That could be a personal thing... but I find the slight angle a little distracting. Of course, if this has not already been cropped, you may not have enough to straighten.

camo · 02-21-2011, 11:38 AM

Nice pic and nice car. Looks like an AE86 to me. The car that made drifting famous from Japan. Pretty rare, and expensive now...you can see why

Brenda Lee · 02-21-2011, 11:53 AM

I think it's a phenomenal capture. If it had one flaw, I would say it's that little vertical fleck to the left of the car. I'd have to Photoshop that out. :P

epqwerty · 02-21-2011, 11:59 AM

Very nice shot. I wish they had these types of events in my area but it's not happening anytime soon.

As for the paint scheme of the car. I understand the black and white of the car is in reference to the manga/anime japanese animation of IntialD which the hero of the story had a black and white AE86 Toyota.

Gaelen · 02-21-2011, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Northern Soul

In a perfect world I'd want the car to be a bit more brightly painted to contrast with the dust more, and there would be a tad more room on the left for it to slide in to, and to balance the plume.

Back in this world, this is well executed - sharp, well balanced and well framed. Nice panning.

Perfect worlds are nice i agree, I'll try the more room on the left again... didnt quite work for me last night but then again i was half asleep.

Originally posted by firefly

That's a very good shot in my opinion, good subject sharpness on a non-distinct panning background that gives great context of speed. Since you wanted a critique... I'd straighten it. That could be a personal thing... but I find the slight angle a little distracting. Of course, if this has not already been cropped, you may not have enough to straighten.

I know what you mean, nit my favorite method... but the audience I deal with seems to like them better on an angle... not 100% sure why yet

Originally posted by Brenda Lee

I think it's a phenomenal capture. If it had one flaw, I would say it's that little vertical fleck to the left of the car. I'd have to Photoshop that out. :P

I'm going have to do that when i get home... didnt notice it but now it's pretty glaring haha

Originally posted by epqwerty

Very nice shot. I wish they had these types of events in my area but it's not happening anytime soon.

As for the paint scheme of the car. I understand the black and white of the car is in reference to the manga/anime japanese animation of IntialD which the hero of the story had a black and white AE86 Toyota.

check out 613DriftWerks , lots of events posted up there that will keep you busy all year.

Gaelen · 02-21-2011, 12:24 PM

Round 2.... Better or worse?

Brenda Lee · 02-21-2011, 01:47 PM

I prefer the angled version. It has a better sense of movement. I also like it better without the extra space on the left, because it adds to the sense of danger -- almost like they're going to slide right out of the frame. Plus it places the car in better composition.

**firefly** · 02-22-2011, 11:21 AM

Uh Oh, contraversy.... I prefer #2.

Eruditass · 02-22-2011, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by Brenda Lee

I prefer the angled version. It has a better sense of movement. I also like it better without the extra space on the left, because it adds to the sense of danger -- almost like they're going to slide right out of the frame. Plus it places the car in better composition.

Well said, I agree.

er1kksen · 02-22-2011, 11:42 AM

I like the first version first. It's an excellent shot with a great sense of movement, but something about it just didn't feel right... I've figured it out. The saturation of the greens in the background distracts from the subject, and the background has a little too much magenta overall. I would probably selectively increase the green tint in the background while lowering the saturation in the bushes a little, and maybe increase the saturation on the drivers face (which is also a little too magenta) while brightening the orange headlights a tad.

[Salt Shaker: my monitor has not been carefully calibrated and may not match yours or those or other site readers, so I may be off]

Gaelen · 02-22-2011, 07:46 PM

I like the opinions! always good to hear both sides of a discussion on an image and why some people like one over the other!

Side note... my screen is also calibrated

its not magenta here. I spent a fair bit of time getting any cast off it so I'm pretty sure im good there but i'll do another check.

What are you using to calibrate your screen?

Northern Soul · 02-23-2011, 03:17 AM

@Gaelen - @er1kksen said their monitor has *not* been calibrated - if yours has and it's ok to you, I guess it's ok.

I wouldn't fancy making all those tweaks in the darkroom - amazing how quickly things change.

Both images are very, very good IMHO.

Gaelen · 02-23-2011, 12:08 PM

haha I totally read that wrong! thanks

well I calibrate my screen every 2-3 weeks as i do mostly graphic/web design work on top of my photography so colour is important.

I wouldn't want to do all those fixes in a darkroom either... that would be insane!

Thanks!

02-21-2011, 10:38 AM	#1
Gaelen Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Coquitlam, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 749	Drift Corolla Lens: DA* 50-135 f/2.8 Camera: K20D Photo Location: Victoria BC ISO: 100 Shutter Speed: 1/90s Aperture: F13.5 I love the clarity of this picture but I'm not sure about some of the rest of it. Any opinions and suggestions would be greatly appreciated

02-21-2011, 11:09 AM	#3
firefly Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Brunswick Photos: Albums Posts: 200	Good Job That's a very good shot in my opinion, good subject sharpness on a non-distinct panning background that gives great context of speed. Since you wanted a critique... I'd straighten it. That could be a personal thing... but I find the slight angle a little distracting. Of course, if this has not already been cropped, you may not have enough to straighten.

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02-21-2011, 10:59 AM	#2
Northern Soul Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The North of England Photos: Albums Posts: 494	In a perfect world I'd want the car to be a bit more brightly painted to contrast with the dust more, and there would be a tad more room on the left for it to slide in to, and to balance the plume. Back in this world, this is well executed - sharp, well balanced and well framed. Nice panning.

02-21-2011, 11:38 AM	#4
camo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 224	Nice pic and nice car. Looks like an AE86 to me. The car that made drifting famous from Japan. Pretty rare, and expensive now...you can see why

02-21-2011, 11:53 AM	#5
Brenda Lee Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NB, Canada Posts: 85	I think it's a phenomenal capture. If it had one flaw, I would say it's that little vertical fleck to the left of the car. I'd have to Photoshop that out. :P

02-21-2011, 11:59 AM	#6
epqwerty Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ontario Posts: 550	Very nice shot. I wish they had these types of events in my area but it's not happening anytime soon. As for the paint scheme of the car. I understand the black and white of the car is in reference to the manga/anime japanese animation of IntialD which the hero of the story had a black and white AE86 Toyota.

02-21-2011, 12:10 PM	#7
Gaelen Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Coquitlam, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 749 Original Poster	Originally posted by Northern Soul In a perfect world I'd want the car to be a bit more brightly painted to contrast with the dust more, and there would be a tad more room on the left for it to slide in to, and to balance the plume. Back in this world, this is well executed - sharp, well balanced and well framed. Nice panning. Perfect worlds are nice i agree, I'll try the more room on the left again... didnt quite work for me last night but then again i was half asleep. Originally posted by firefly That's a very good shot in my opinion, good subject sharpness on a non-distinct panning background that gives great context of speed. Since you wanted a critique... I'd straighten it. That could be a personal thing... but I find the slight angle a little distracting. Of course, if this has not already been cropped, you may not have enough to straighten. I know what you mean, nit my favorite method... but the audience I deal with seems to like them better on an angle... not 100% sure why yet Originally posted by Brenda Lee I think it's a phenomenal capture. If it had one flaw, I would say it's that little vertical fleck to the left of the car. I'd have to Photoshop that out. :P I'm going have to do that when i get home... didnt notice it but now it's pretty glaring haha Originally posted by epqwerty Very nice shot. I wish they had these types of events in my area but it's not happening anytime soon. As for the paint scheme of the car. I understand the black and white of the car is in reference to the manga/anime japanese animation of IntialD which the hero of the story had a black and white AE86 Toyota. check out 613DriftWerks , lots of events posted up there that will keep you busy all year.

02-21-2011, 12:24 PM	#8
Gaelen Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Coquitlam, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 749 Original Poster	Round 2.... Better or worse?

02-21-2011, 01:47 PM	#9
Brenda Lee Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NB, Canada Posts: 85	I prefer the angled version. It has a better sense of movement. I also like it better without the extra space on the left, because it adds to the sense of danger -- almost like they're going to slide right out of the frame. Plus it places the car in better composition.

02-22-2011, 11:21 AM	#10
firefly Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Brunswick Photos: Albums Posts: 200	Uh Oh, contraversy.... I prefer #2.

02-22-2011, 11:24 AM	#11
Eruditass Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,207	Originally posted by Brenda Lee I prefer the angled version. It has a better sense of movement. I also like it better without the extra space on the left, because it adds to the sense of danger -- almost like they're going to slide right out of the frame. Plus it places the car in better composition. Well said, I agree.

02-22-2011, 11:42 AM	#12
er1kksen Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Forestville, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 1,801	I like the first version first. It's an excellent shot with a great sense of movement, but something about it just didn't feel right... I've figured it out. The saturation of the greens in the background distracts from the subject, and the background has a little too much magenta overall. I would probably selectively increase the green tint in the background while lowering the saturation in the bushes a little, and maybe increase the saturation on the drivers face (which is also a little too magenta) while brightening the orange headlights a tad. [Salt Shaker: my monitor has not been carefully calibrated and may not match yours or those or other site readers, so I may be off]

02-22-2011, 07:46 PM	#13
Gaelen Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Coquitlam, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 749 Original Poster	I like the opinions! always good to hear both sides of a discussion on an image and why some people like one over the other! Side note... my screen is also calibrated its not magenta here. I spent a fair bit of time getting any cast off it so I'm pretty sure im good there but i'll do another check. What are you using to calibrate your screen?

02-23-2011, 03:17 AM	#14
Northern Soul Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The North of England Photos: Albums Posts: 494	@Gaelen - @er1kksen said their monitor has not been calibrated - if yours has and it's ok to you, I guess it's ok. I wouldn't fancy making all those tweaks in the darkroom - amazing how quickly things change. Both images are very, very good IMHO.

02-23-2011, 12:08 PM	#15
Gaelen Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Coquitlam, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 749 Original Poster	haha I totally read that wrong! thanks well I calibrate my screen every 2-3 weeks as i do mostly graphic/web design work on top of my photography so colour is important. I wouldn't want to do all those fixes in a darkroom either... that would be insane! Thanks!

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