People A Before and After

Jamfke · 08-19-2013, 06:00 PM

Hello. I've posted a copy of this image once before, and I've been trying to play around a bit with it doing some black and white conversion, and post processing (added eyes from a different photo. I'm really sorta new to that aspect of post processing, and I'd like some opinions on it, and the B&W conversion thanks!

Before:

After:

atupdate · 08-19-2013, 06:15 PM

You did a really nice job with the eyes and the B&W conversion. I really like the crop as well. Nicely done.

Tim

Jamfke · 08-19-2013, 06:44 PM

Thank you!

Gregory_51 · 08-19-2013, 09:13 PM

Nice casual photo of the two. The b&w treatment removes the distraction of the many colors. It's great what you can do with software these days like swapping the eyes. I do find the b&w conversion quite contrasty with the blacks blocked up the the highlights in the girls hair blown. Lowering the contrast and tweaking the color version you can lower the contrast and reveal more detail. I find the cropping a bit tight for my taste and would loosen it up a bit. I did a quick edit reworking the color image and swapping in the eyes again from the b&w and showing a looser crop. Just my 2 cents.
alternate edit on right of photo by Jamfke | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Regards
Greg

tim60 · 08-20-2013, 03:26 AM

The skin is unflattering in the B&W. The subject may well be unhappy with it.

Jamfke · 08-20-2013, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by Gregory_51

Nice casual photo of the two. The b&w treatment removes the distraction of the many colors. It's great what you can do with software these days like swapping the eyes. I do find the b&w conversion quite contrasty with the blacks blocked up the the highlights in the girls hair blown. Lowering the contrast and tweaking the color version you can lower the contrast and reveal more detail. I find the cropping a bit tight for my taste and would loosen it up a bit. I did a quick edit reworking the color image and swapping in the eyes again from the b&w and showing a looser crop. Just my 2 cents.
alternate edit on right of photo by Jamfke | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Regards
Greg

Thanks Greg. I see what you're saying. I like your edit. I've been working on another of it too. I'm away from my desktop at the moment. I will post my revision in a little while.

Originally posted by tim60

The skin is unflattering in the B&W. The subject may well be unhappy with it.

Thank you. You're right. I was too focused on trying to get the eyes as good as I could to notice mommy's skin. I'll be posting my revision soon. I wasn't too happy with the conversion, or the eyes.

Jamfke · 08-20-2013, 08:15 PM

Okay, here is my latest revision. I like this one much better all around.

tim60 · 08-20-2013, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by Jamfke

Okay, here is my latest revision. I like this one much better all around.

I agree.

Jamfke · 08-20-2013, 09:09 PM

Thank you tim60.

MADDSNIPER · 08-21-2013, 12:29 PM

I really like your latest one, cant think of anything negative to say really.

Jamfke · 08-21-2013, 02:11 PM

Thanks!

imaspy · 08-21-2013, 08:02 PM

the transplanted eyes look a bit over-sharp compared to the rest of the image; maybe experiment with softening them up just a little? otherwise the most recent version is looking nice. good job.

Jamfke · 08-21-2013, 08:13 PM

Thanks! Yes, they still look a bit too sharp. I tried softening them a bit, but I will apply more soon.

CMS Houston · 08-21-2013, 08:54 PM

My mind struggles to enjoy the image as a result of the transplanted eyes. I find the second edit is worse in this regard because the distance between the eyes appears to have increased noticeably beyond how they are spaced in the original. Were it my photograph, I would stick to the first crop, retouch the skin as noted above and leave the rest alone. The eyes being closed add to the spontaneity of the moment in my opinion.

My $0.02

Chris

Jamfke · 08-23-2013, 04:36 PM

Thanks. The eyes were still bothering me too. They were too big in the first attempt, and now they are too far apart. I'll be tinkering with it some more soon.

08-19-2013, 06:00 PM	#1
Jamfke Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Crossville, TN Photos: Albums Posts: 272	A Before and After Lens: SMC Pentax M 50mm f1.4 Camera: Pentax K-x ISO: 100 Shutter Speed: 1/200s Aperture: F2 Hello. I've posted a copy of this image once before, and I've been trying to play around a bit with it doing some black and white conversion, and post processing (added eyes from a different photo. I'm really sorta new to that aspect of post processing, and I'd like some opinions on it, and the B&W conversion thanks! Before: After:

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08-19-2013, 06:15 PM	#2
atupdate Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dayton, OH Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,724	You did a really nice job with the eyes and the B&W conversion. I really like the crop as well. Nicely done. Tim

08-19-2013, 06:44 PM	#3
Jamfke Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Crossville, TN Photos: Albums Posts: 272 Original Poster	Thank you!

08-19-2013, 09:13 PM	#4
Gregory_51 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: London, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 343	Nice casual photo of the two. The b&w treatment removes the distraction of the many colors. It's great what you can do with software these days like swapping the eyes. I do find the b&w conversion quite contrasty with the blacks blocked up the the highlights in the girls hair blown. Lowering the contrast and tweaking the color version you can lower the contrast and reveal more detail. I find the cropping a bit tight for my taste and would loosen it up a bit. I did a quick edit reworking the color image and swapping in the eyes again from the b&w and showing a looser crop. Just my 2 cents. alternate edit on right of photo by Jamfke \| Flickr - Photo Sharing! Regards Greg

08-20-2013, 03:26 AM	#5
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,743	The skin is unflattering in the B&W. The subject may well be unhappy with it.

08-20-2013, 06:01 PM	#6
Jamfke Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Crossville, TN Photos: Albums Posts: 272 Original Poster	Originally posted by Gregory_51 Nice casual photo of the two. The b&w treatment removes the distraction of the many colors. It's great what you can do with software these days like swapping the eyes. I do find the b&w conversion quite contrasty with the blacks blocked up the the highlights in the girls hair blown. Lowering the contrast and tweaking the color version you can lower the contrast and reveal more detail. I find the cropping a bit tight for my taste and would loosen it up a bit. I did a quick edit reworking the color image and swapping in the eyes again from the b&w and showing a looser crop. Just my 2 cents. alternate edit on right of photo by Jamfke \| Flickr - Photo Sharing! Regards Greg Thanks Greg. I see what you're saying. I like your edit. I've been working on another of it too. I'm away from my desktop at the moment. I will post my revision in a little while. Originally posted by tim60 The skin is unflattering in the B&W. The subject may well be unhappy with it. Thank you. You're right. I was too focused on trying to get the eyes as good as I could to notice mommy's skin. I'll be posting my revision soon. I wasn't too happy with the conversion, or the eyes.

08-20-2013, 08:15 PM	#7
Jamfke Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Crossville, TN Photos: Albums Posts: 272 Original Poster	Okay, here is my latest revision. I like this one much better all around.

08-20-2013, 08:37 PM	#8
tim60 Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,743	Originally posted by Jamfke Okay, here is my latest revision. I like this one much better all around. I agree.

08-20-2013, 09:09 PM	#9
Jamfke Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Crossville, TN Photos: Albums Posts: 272 Original Poster	Thank you tim60.

08-21-2013, 12:29 PM	#10
MADDSNIPER Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 108	I really like your latest one, cant think of anything negative to say really.

08-21-2013, 02:11 PM	#11
Jamfke Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Crossville, TN Photos: Albums Posts: 272 Original Poster	Thanks!

08-21-2013, 08:02 PM	#12
imaspy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 294	the transplanted eyes look a bit over-sharp compared to the rest of the image; maybe experiment with softening them up just a little? otherwise the most recent version is looking nice. good job.

08-21-2013, 08:13 PM	#13
Jamfke Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Crossville, TN Photos: Albums Posts: 272 Original Poster	Thanks! Yes, they still look a bit too sharp. I tried softening them a bit, but I will apply more soon.

08-21-2013, 08:54 PM	#14
CMS Houston Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Houston, Tx Photos: Gallery Posts: 49	My mind struggles to enjoy the image as a result of the transplanted eyes. I find the second edit is worse in this regard because the distance between the eyes appears to have increased noticeably beyond how they are spaced in the original. Were it my photograph, I would stick to the first crop, retouch the skin as noted above and leave the rest alone. The eyes being closed add to the spontaneity of the moment in my opinion. My $0.02 Chris

08-23-2013, 04:36 PM	#15
Jamfke Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Crossville, TN Photos: Albums Posts: 272 Original Poster	Thanks. The eyes were still bothering me too. They were too big in the first attempt, and now they are too far apart. I'll be tinkering with it some more soon.