Landscape Iluminated Tree Critique

**MSL** · 02-12-2014, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by hks_kansei

I don't really see how I'm being contradictory?

Why did I know this phrase was going to evoke a response?
Contradictory wasn't quite the right word. So I apologize.
What I was trying to get at is that whether you like the symmetry or would prefer it asymmetrical, the original image doesn't get either quite right. For either case, the OP should consider cropping - either to enhance the symmetry or to deliberately make it more asymmetrical. In my view both would push the image to following the rules - for example, if you are going to break the rule of thirds, do it in a deliberate, forceful way, and if you are going to use a symmetrical format like a square image, make sure the image has the symmetry to go along with that shape.

wildman · 02-12-2014, 07:14 AM

My take on it:

Too cramped a tonal range and reds and orange way over-saturated

**Schraubstock** · 02-12-2014, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by wildman

reds and orange way over-saturated

I was not game enough to say this because in the past I got flamed a few times for it.
I am no friend of over saturated sunsets in general. I guess people think it looks impressive.

(Now I will be flamed again)

wildman · 02-12-2014, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by Schraubstock

I was not game enough to say this because in the past I got flamed a few times for it.

Originally posted by jrm1

Please be honest I appreciate any constructive criticism, no hard feelings.

The man sounds like a real adult who asked for an honest critique of his work so that's what I gave him.

**MSL** · 02-12-2014, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by Schraubstock

I am no friend of over saturated sunsets in general. I guess people think it looks impressive.

I don't see the harm in saying it, as it seems like most of that sentence is your personal opinion, and there is lots of scope for debating what is oversaturated or not (as as I've learned from discussing other people's images, a lot has to do just with how different monitors are calibrated)

jrm1 · 02-12-2014, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by wildman

The man sounds like a real adult who asked for an honest critique of his work so that's what I gave him.

I would never get "flamed" over what someone said about my pics, like MSL said everyone has a right to have an opinion. There are so many variables before a person gets to the point of printing out a photo it's simply impossible for every person to have the same opinion of the final result. I really appreciate everyones thoughts and honesty that have participated in this discussion!! I made a frame for the picture today, now I just need to settle on a final edit.

**Schraubstock** · 02-12-2014, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by jrm1

I would never get "flamed" over what someone said about my pics, like MSL said everyone has a right to have an opinion. There are so many variables before a person gets to the point of printing out a photo it's simply impossible for every person to have the same opinion of the final result. I really appreciate everyones thoughts and honesty that have participated in this discussion!! I made a frame for the picture today, now I just need to settle on a final edit.

That's great, I wonder if you could be so good and tell us what your decision was in the end. I for one would be interested.

Best regards

02-12-2014, 07:14 AM	#17
wildman Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Flyover America Posts: 4,469	My take on it: Too cramped a tonal range and reds and orange way over-saturated Last edited by wildman; 02-17-2014 at 02:19 AM.

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02-12-2014, 06:41 AM	#16
MSL Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Greater Toronto Area Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,756	Originally posted by hks_kansei I don't really see how I'm being contradictory? Why did I know this phrase was going to evoke a response? Contradictory wasn't quite the right word. So I apologize. What I was trying to get at is that whether you like the symmetry or would prefer it asymmetrical, the original image doesn't get either quite right. For either case, the OP should consider cropping - either to enhance the symmetry or to deliberately make it more asymmetrical. In my view both would push the image to following the rules - for example, if you are going to break the rule of thirds, do it in a deliberate, forceful way, and if you are going to use a symmetrical format like a square image, make sure the image has the symmetry to go along with that shape.

02-12-2014, 06:03 PM	#18
Schraubstock Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,386	Originally posted by wildman reds and orange way over-saturated I was not game enough to say this because in the past I got flamed a few times for it. I am no friend of over saturated sunsets in general. I guess people think it looks impressive. (Now I will be flamed again)

02-12-2014, 06:43 PM	#19
wildman Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Flyover America Posts: 4,469	Originally posted by Schraubstock I was not game enough to say this because in the past I got flamed a few times for it. Originally posted by jrm1 Please be honest I appreciate any constructive criticism, no hard feelings. The man sounds like a real adult who asked for an honest critique of his work so that's what I gave him.

02-12-2014, 07:02 PM	#20
MSL Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Greater Toronto Area Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,756	Originally posted by Schraubstock I am no friend of over saturated sunsets in general. I guess people think it looks impressive. I don't see the harm in saying it, as it seems like most of that sentence is your personal opinion, and there is lots of scope for debating what is oversaturated or not (as as I've learned from discussing other people's images, a lot has to do just with how different monitors are calibrated)

02-12-2014, 07:20 PM	#21
jrm1 New Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: North Idaho Posts: 18 Original Poster	Originally posted by wildman The man sounds like a real adult who asked for an honest critique of his work so that's what I gave him. I would never get "flamed" over what someone said about my pics, like MSL said everyone has a right to have an opinion. There are so many variables before a person gets to the point of printing out a photo it's simply impossible for every person to have the same opinion of the final result. I really appreciate everyones thoughts and honesty that have participated in this discussion!! I made a frame for the picture today, now I just need to settle on a final edit.

02-12-2014, 10:24 PM	#22
Schraubstock Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,386	Originally posted by jrm1 I would never get "flamed" over what someone said about my pics, like MSL said everyone has a right to have an opinion. There are so many variables before a person gets to the point of printing out a photo it's simply impossible for every person to have the same opinion of the final result. I really appreciate everyones thoughts and honesty that have participated in this discussion!! I made a frame for the picture today, now I just need to settle on a final edit. That's great, I wonder if you could be so good and tell us what your decision was in the end. I for one would be interested. Best regards