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Panos_P · 06-08-2014, 05:38 AM

Any thoughts on that?

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normhead · 06-08-2014, 06:08 AM

The in focus area is too far to the left of the rule of thirds point, I have trouble forcing my eye to go to where the in focus portion is.
A contrast bump could help, as could some definition
Most lines are leading out of the frame, giving an appearance that the photo is disorganized.

All in all interesting, but leaves the feeling, you could have done more with it. A bit of walking around looking for different angles maybe would have improved the image selection.

Panos_P · 06-08-2014, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by normhead

The in focus area is too far to the left of the rule of thirds point, I have trouble forcing my eye to go to where the in focus portion is.
A contrast bump could help, as could some definition
Most lines are leading out of the frame, giving an appearance that the photo is disorganized.

All in all interesting, but leaves the feeling, you could have done more with it. A bit of walking around looking for different angles maybe would have improved the image selection.

Thank you, I appreciate your advice

Could you explain what is a contrast bump? I assume it is done in the post-processing part, but i only know the basics and I have no idea how to add a contrast bump.

normhead · 06-08-2014, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by Panos_P

Thank you, I appreciate your advice

Could you explain what is a contrast bump? I assume it is done in the post-processing part, but i only know the basics and I have no idea how to add a contrast bump.

Even the most basic photo editors will have a slider bar to turn your contrast up and down.
Some might feel that this image is the find the way it is. I've always been high contrast freak especially with black and white, so you might want a few more opinions,... I like to see some nice black blacks and some over the top whites some where in the image. Some might argue that part of the charm of this image is the low key thing... soft focus and soft contrast. But if your software allowed it, I'd at least highlight and push the contrast on the in focus area a bit.

Panos_P · 06-08-2014, 11:27 AM

So, I added some contrast in the focus area and a bit to the out of focus area and i think it added a bit of depth to the photo. What do you think?

P.S the picture is not black and white.

normhead · 06-08-2014, 11:40 AM

Yes, definitely getting a little snappier... to me it changes the whole image, it makes it easier for my eye to find the in focus area more naturally.. and, you have to admit, it was darn close to black and white, close enough I might have even tried it as a black and white. The reason I say that is there is almost no, colour contrast. The values are almost all tonal. I'd try a copy as a black and white, and then experiment with some sepia toning after that, just to see what can be done.

Panos_P · 06-08-2014, 12:22 PM

Ok, so i tried some sepia toning with the gradient map tool and this is what i think looks good. The wall pretty much stays the same, but the ladder changed to a nice warm sepia tone.

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normhead · 06-08-2014, 12:57 PM

Well good, looks like you had some fun....

Panos_P · 06-08-2014, 01:26 PM

Yes i did. Thank you for giving me your thoughts on this!

Sparkle · 06-09-2014, 03:15 AM

You should be using a Pentax! Perhaps you are in the wrong Forum.

normhead · 06-09-2014, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by Sparkle

You should be using a Pentax! Perhaps you are in the wrong Forum.

A little grumpy are we?

Panos_P · 06-09-2014, 06:37 AM

Originally posted by Sparkle

You should be using a Pentax! Perhaps you are in the wrong Forum.

I originally subscribed to the forum because i am considering a switch from my nikon to the pentax k-5 ii and i liked the forums here. Does it really matter what camera am i using?

normhead · 06-09-2014, 07:18 AM

No, the forum rules for this section are clear, you're welcome to use whatever camera you want. Some of the competitions may require you to use Pentax gear, but what you did is fine. It's what Sparkle said that's un-acceptable. Personally, and for most of us, we don't care if your name is Deputy Dog and you're shooting with a pin hole camera, if you're interested in photography and want to participate, we're happy to see you here.

Panos_P · 06-09-2014, 07:42 AM

Thank you, I really like this forum and I hope sometime in the near future to be able to afford a k-5ii!

Sparkle · 06-09-2014, 07:59 AM

I was trying to be helpful as I saw that Panos was new and thought that a Nikon forum would better serve.

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06-08-2014, 06:08 AM	#2
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	The in focus area is too far to the left of the rule of thirds point, I have trouble forcing my eye to go to where the in focus portion is. A contrast bump could help, as could some definition Most lines are leading out of the frame, giving an appearance that the photo is disorganized. All in all interesting, but leaves the feeling, you could have done more with it. A bit of walking around looking for different angles maybe would have improved the image selection.

06-08-2014, 07:41 AM	#3
Panos_P New Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 22 Original Poster	Originally posted by normhead The in focus area is too far to the left of the rule of thirds point, I have trouble forcing my eye to go to where the in focus portion is. A contrast bump could help, as could some definition Most lines are leading out of the frame, giving an appearance that the photo is disorganized. All in all interesting, but leaves the feeling, you could have done more with it. A bit of walking around looking for different angles maybe would have improved the image selection. Thank you, I appreciate your advice Could you explain what is a contrast bump? I assume it is done in the post-processing part, but i only know the basics and I have no idea how to add a contrast bump.

06-08-2014, 11:04 AM	#4
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Panos_P Thank you, I appreciate your advice Could you explain what is a contrast bump? I assume it is done in the post-processing part, but i only know the basics and I have no idea how to add a contrast bump. Even the most basic photo editors will have a slider bar to turn your contrast up and down. Some might feel that this image is the find the way it is. I've always been high contrast freak especially with black and white, so you might want a few more opinions,... I like to see some nice black blacks and some over the top whites some where in the image. Some might argue that part of the charm of this image is the low key thing... soft focus and soft contrast. But if your software allowed it, I'd at least highlight and push the contrast on the in focus area a bit.

06-08-2014, 11:40 AM	#6
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Yes, definitely getting a little snappier... to me it changes the whole image, it makes it easier for my eye to find the in focus area more naturally.. and, you have to admit, it was darn close to black and white, close enough I might have even tried it as a black and white. The reason I say that is there is almost no, colour contrast. The values are almost all tonal. I'd try a copy as a black and white, and then experiment with some sepia toning after that, just to see what can be done.

06-08-2014, 12:57 PM	#8
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Well good, looks like you had some fun....

06-08-2014, 01:26 PM	#9
Panos_P New Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 22 Original Poster	Yes i did. Thank you for giving me your thoughts on this!

06-09-2014, 03:15 AM	#10
Sparkle Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,521	You should be using a Pentax! Perhaps you are in the wrong Forum.

06-09-2014, 05:35 AM	#11
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Sparkle You should be using a Pentax! Perhaps you are in the wrong Forum. A little grumpy are we?

06-09-2014, 06:37 AM	#12
Panos_P New Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 22 Original Poster	Originally posted by Sparkle You should be using a Pentax! Perhaps you are in the wrong Forum. I originally subscribed to the forum because i am considering a switch from my nikon to the pentax k-5 ii and i liked the forums here. Does it really matter what camera am i using?

06-09-2014, 07:18 AM	#13
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	No, the forum rules for this section are clear, you're welcome to use whatever camera you want. Some of the competitions may require you to use Pentax gear, but what you did is fine. It's what Sparkle said that's un-acceptable. Personally, and for most of us, we don't care if your name is Deputy Dog and you're shooting with a pin hole camera, if you're interested in photography and want to participate, we're happy to see you here.

06-09-2014, 07:42 AM	#14
Panos_P New Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 22 Original Poster	Thank you, I really like this forum and I hope sometime in the near future to be able to afford a k-5ii!

06-09-2014, 07:59 AM	#15
Sparkle Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,521	I was trying to be helpful as I saw that Panos was new and thought that a Nikon forum would better serve.

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