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Velja · 07-09-2014, 01:40 AM - **1 Like**

hi,
slightly unconventional approach to the "back-profile"!? I attach two variants. I would be cheerful your constructive opinions and suggestions!
regards

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**PeggyR** · 07-09-2014, 12:39 PM

I think that B&W is just beautiful (I'm pea-green with envy; no matter how hard I try, just can't get those clean blacks and whites).

Speaking as a total non-expert, just as a viewer, my only complaint is the out of focus areas, particularly the braid. For me, if everything - hat, face, hair, shoulder - were in crisp focus, the photo would be even better.

I don't know what the conventional wisdom is about how much of the face to show in this kind of shot, but I like the way this is positioned; there's enough to let us see what she looks like, but leaves a little mystery.

Velja · 07-12-2014, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by PeggyR

I think that B&W is just beautiful (I'm pea-green with envy; no matter how hard I try, just can't get those clean blacks and whites). Speaking as a total non-expert, just as a viewer, my only complaint is the out of focus areas, particularly the braid. For me, if everything - hat, face, hair, shoulder - were in crisp focus, the photo would be even better. I don't know what the conventional wisdom is about how much of the face to show in this kind of shot, but I like the way this is positioned; there's enough to let us see what she looks like, but leaves a little mystery.

hi,
Thank you for your attention and thinking!

hinman · 07-12-2014, 04:16 AM

I like the b&w version. It is more cool than the color version. I love the tone and the background in the face on the b&w version.

I do find the highlight on the hair as well as the spot on the shoulder to be a bit overblown. Don't know if it is worth to try a version to localize the reduction of highlight on the hair and the bright spot on the shoulder. Dodge and burn the areas to less overblown if that makes sense.

Cheers,
Hin

Velja · 08-02-2014, 12:38 PM

hi,
what to do when the Pentax is not programmed to balance (alleviating) to strong light and crossing in a shadow! The truth is that some time in the photo "repaired" in PP! For me personally the B & W much better!

Velja

**keruili** · 08-07-2014, 11:52 AM

Personally I like that the focus falls off towards the shoulder and I prefer the color shot because in the B&W the highlights on the braid are just too distracting from the softer light on the face. Did you have a reflector or flash to splash the light up under the brim off the helmet? It looks like it was either flash or a silver reflector because it is quite contrasty.
I am working at doing equine photos with my daughter and just made a DIY scrim to help tame and soften the light for the outdoor shoots. Haven't tried it out yet but I am surely looking forward to it. I'll post the results here and see what you think.

Velja · 08-07-2014, 10:27 PM

Hi,
Thank you for your attention and IMO! As for additional lighting, it was not !! My position when shooting was under the trees that surround the arena! It was early morning and svjetost came with my left hand (through the trees)! I kept the camera on the TV; Cf and continuous shooting for the action!
Regards, Velja

Eder · 01-15-2015, 01:59 PM

I think the color version is better, i like BW mostly but in this case i think the skin tones worth to be shown, bedsides on BW version there is some kind of white halo around the helmet, (more noticeable at the rear part) and is a little bit distractive. On color version this is lost with the blue sky so looks more natural.

I like the sharpness on the subject face, her profile is very well defined. Très bien por la equestrienne!

Velja · 04-04-2015, 11:32 PM

Eder, thank you for your attention and expressed opinion! Probably I would easily "refined" B & W version and thus annulled the reflection of the sun from the sand substrate? Nice day you want!

RAART · 04-17-2015, 07:19 AM

Black and white is better but I guess that you used some kind of color filter in PP or maybe increased the contrast too much. You can try to change to different filter color and tweak the image from there. Sharpness is good. This image can be better done with different kind of PP...

**hjoseph7** · 04-26-2015, 01:27 PM

Nicely done. This picture tells a story without revealing too much and without a caption. I can sense the anxiety in the rider and I can sense that she is involved in some type of competition. Well done...

Velja · 04-27-2015, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by hjoseph7

Nicely done. This picture tells a story without revealing too much and without a caption. I can sense the anxiety in the rider and I can sense that she is involved in some type of competition. Well done...

Thank you for attention!

Scootatheschool1990 · 05-05-2015, 06:36 PM

I love this if it were an abstract shot. The black and white really draws you in. Also, I think that for it to be a really good shot, you should have their face in the photo. smiling! Otherwise, I like the color, dof, and sharpness. Well done.

Velja · 06-02-2015, 06:21 AM

Scott, thank you for your attention and opinion!

07-09-2014, 01:40 AM - 1 Like	#1
Velja Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Velenje Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 554	equestrienne Lens: Sigma 70-200/2,8 Camera: Pentax K5 ISO: 200 Shutter Speed: 1/750s Aperture: F5 hi, slightly unconventional approach to the "back-profile"!? I attach two variants. I would be cheerful your constructive opinions and suggestions! regards

04-17-2015, 07:19 AM	#10
RAART Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Oakville, ON Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,007	Black and white is better but I guess that you used some kind of color filter in PP or maybe increased the contrast too much. You can try to change to different filter color and tweak the image from there. Sharpness is good. This image can be better done with different kind of PP... Last edited by RAART; 05-05-2015 at 11:03 PM.

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07-09-2014, 12:39 PM	#2
PeggyR Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 245	I think that B&W is just beautiful (I'm pea-green with envy; no matter how hard I try, just can't get those clean blacks and whites). Speaking as a total non-expert, just as a viewer, my only complaint is the out of focus areas, particularly the braid. For me, if everything - hat, face, hair, shoulder - were in crisp focus, the photo would be even better. I don't know what the conventional wisdom is about how much of the face to show in this kind of shot, but I like the way this is positioned; there's enough to let us see what she looks like, but leaves a little mystery.

07-12-2014, 01:28 AM	#3
Velja Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Velenje Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 554 Original Poster	Originally posted by PeggyR I think that B&W is just beautiful (I'm pea-green with envy; no matter how hard I try, just can't get those clean blacks and whites). Speaking as a total non-expert, just as a viewer, my only complaint is the out of focus areas, particularly the braid. For me, if everything - hat, face, hair, shoulder - were in crisp focus, the photo would be even better. I don't know what the conventional wisdom is about how much of the face to show in this kind of shot, but I like the way this is positioned; there's enough to let us see what she looks like, but leaves a little mystery. hi, Thank you for your attention and thinking!

07-12-2014, 04:16 AM	#4
hinman Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fremont, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,428	I like the b&w version. It is more cool than the color version. I love the tone and the background in the face on the b&w version. I do find the highlight on the hair as well as the spot on the shoulder to be a bit overblown. Don't know if it is worth to try a version to localize the reduction of highlight on the hair and the bright spot on the shoulder. Dodge and burn the areas to less overblown if that makes sense. Cheers, Hin

08-02-2014, 12:38 PM	#5
Velja Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Velenje Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 554 Original Poster	hi, what to do when the Pentax is not programmed to balance (alleviating) to strong light and crossing in a shadow! The truth is that some time in the photo "repaired" in PP! For me personally the B & W much better! Velja

08-07-2014, 11:52 AM	#6
keruili Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 127	Personally I like that the focus falls off towards the shoulder and I prefer the color shot because in the B&W the highlights on the braid are just too distracting from the softer light on the face. Did you have a reflector or flash to splash the light up under the brim off the helmet? It looks like it was either flash or a silver reflector because it is quite contrasty. I am working at doing equine photos with my daughter and just made a DIY scrim to help tame and soften the light for the outdoor shoots. Haven't tried it out yet but I am surely looking forward to it. I'll post the results here and see what you think.

08-07-2014, 10:27 PM	#7
Velja Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Velenje Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 554 Original Poster	Hi, Thank you for your attention and IMO! As for additional lighting, it was not !! My position when shooting was under the trees that surround the arena! It was early morning and svjetost came with my left hand (through the trees)! I kept the camera on the TV; Cf and continuous shooting for the action! Regards, Velja

01-15-2015, 01:59 PM	#8
Eder Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 95	I think the color version is better, i like BW mostly but in this case i think the skin tones worth to be shown, bedsides on BW version there is some kind of white halo around the helmet, (more noticeable at the rear part) and is a little bit distractive. On color version this is lost with the blue sky so looks more natural. I like the sharpness on the subject face, her profile is very well defined. Très bien por la equestrienne!

04-04-2015, 11:32 PM	#9
Velja Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Velenje Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 554 Original Poster	Eder, thank you for your attention and expressed opinion! Probably I would easily "refined" B & W version and thus annulled the reflection of the sun from the sand substrate? Nice day you want!

04-26-2015, 01:27 PM	#11
hjoseph7 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2014 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,369	Nicely done. This picture tells a story without revealing too much and without a caption. I can sense the anxiety in the rider and I can sense that she is involved in some type of competition. Well done...

04-27-2015, 01:12 AM	#12
Velja Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Velenje Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 554 Original Poster	Originally posted by hjoseph7 Nicely done. This picture tells a story without revealing too much and without a caption. I can sense the anxiety in the rider and I can sense that she is involved in some type of competition. Well done... Thank you for attention!

05-05-2015, 06:36 PM	#13
Scootatheschool1990 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Boise Idaho Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 466	I love this if it were an abstract shot. The black and white really draws you in. Also, I think that for it to be a really good shot, you should have their face in the photo. smiling! Otherwise, I like the color, dof, and sharpness. Well done.

06-02-2015, 06:21 AM	#14
Velja Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Velenje Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 554 Original Poster	Scott, thank you for your attention and opinion!