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08-23-2014, 11:10 PM   #16
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I would have to agree with the others that I wouldn't want to edit this much more than to kick up the exposure a bit (blowing out the background simplifies that background as detail is lost).

Buuut, if you run into this kind of issue again, and you WANT to fill his face in, I would simply use the pop up flash. When it's not your only source of light, that pop up flash is a miracle worker.

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QuoteOriginally posted by nicofish Quote
I do not use flash ever as I do not want to blind my subjects. Additionally, to those that recommend the use of the pop-up flash it carries a restriction of 1/180 I f I am not mistaken. shooting at 1/180 would be almost impossible considering the shutter speed for this image is 1/2500. I would have had to raise the aperture significantly to shoot at 1/180 which would not produce the blurred background effect (result of the shallow DOF), and I think this would prove detrimental to the image overall.

Your requirements are impossible to achieve without the use of external equipment like reflectors, strong studio lights or even an external flash that is capable of HSS. The background is f/16 but the face is f/4. Something has to give. You should have blown out the background because there is nothing in there anyway. In fact, by blurring it, you clearly didn't want the background.
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QuoteOriginally posted by nicofish Quote
I was curious to know how you (people of pentaxforum) would deal with such strong light contrast especially when the face is shaded.
OK.
Because I was trying to grab a quick candid shot of a stranger under very harsh lighting condition I wouldn't have been thinking in terms of a final image right out of the camera at all.
So far as what I would have actually done on the spot I would have treated it as a technical problem not as an esthetic one - that is a problem of extreme DR.

1. Shot in RAW
2. Set Ev to about +5 or perhaps even more
3. Set camera to TAv mode and set aperture and shutter accordingly ahead of time - looks like about f/8 at about 1/500 so far as I can tell and let ISO roam where it will probably not much over 500 by the looks of it.
4. Spot meter probably on the bright part of the subjects shirt and fire away in fast burst mode.
5. Wait until I got the damn files home before worrying about the exact highlight - shadow balance, overall tone, WB, cropping etc confident that I had probably captured the maximum editable data for later PP in PS.

For a bit more on steps 4 and 5 see my previous post here:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/58-pentax-beginners-corner-q/270867-what-...ml#post2914492

Not being there and having only your picture to go by that's my best guess as to what I would have actually done in practical terms to take the shot.

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The more I look at this pic, the more I want to see just the highlights in the sunglasses brought up. That draws attention to the face, but kinda keeps the mystery.

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I agree with quite a few folks on this thread. The shadow does add some drama, but I would be like you and want to bring him out of the shadows a little. Using the flash for fill is not a bad option at all, as long as you know how to do so, and do it well. If you didn't mind blowing out the background for the sake of your subject being "out of the shadows" then that is fine, and don't fill flash, as some have suggested. Not really a wrong way, just depends on what you're going for.

As for the amount of background, I would agree with a few critics on here, and suggest a tighter crop anyway, but that doesn't solve your shadows issue. Seems to me, thinking on your feet like you have to with travel pictures, you will really want to learn all about fill flash—unless you have an assistant following you around with a fill card :-)
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You could bring down the shadows if it is on post, or try something more HDR like like TaoMaas said.

Anyway, this is what I would have done with the image, you can see I really like it as it is, just did some local adjustments to background exposure and contrast/clarity on the subject.
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I Love the dark face, really makes the picture interesting. The edits here that brighten the face totally ruin the image for me - making it much less emotional.
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