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Wired · 03-18-2015, 03:40 PM

black and white

color

I straight up dislike this model, tried so hard to get emotion out of her, but she just seemed pissed off to be there. Second time I've shot her too, and same kinda thing. She came to me too, so I figure she must at least like me. Anyways, I just did what I could with her pose and facial expression and used more of the light and processing to try and "save" the session. the B&W is my preferred shot.

p.s. forgot the change the category to Portrait. :P

micromacro · 03-18-2015, 04:43 PM

I think it came out great. B&W is so dramatic in many ways. Perfect, imo.

**robgski** · 03-18-2015, 06:07 PM

The colors are well done, but the B&W is my preference. Sorry to hear about the model, she is photogenic.

Winder · 03-18-2015, 06:55 PM

It's a hard shot with her in white against a dark back ground. I think the light might have been too small/hard. Her left shoulder has a glow from the light/high contrast and there is artifact running down her right side all the way to the box she is sitting on. Did you use a brush to smooth out the background? Her hair also show signs of brushing and smoothing. What size was your light source and how far was it from the subject? Might try a light behind the subject or a background light. It's hard to get the subject separation with a 43mm lens at F/8.

For a larger print the glow on the shoulder and artifact would definitely show up.

Macario · 03-19-2015, 03:13 AM

You should eb happy that she was pissed off, the photo shows lot's of emotion.
And the B&W one is the best, it really brings out the emotion. the color one is a bit dull

Wired · 03-19-2015, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by Winder

It's a hard shot with her in white against a dark back ground. I think the light might have been too small/hard. Her left shoulder has a glow from the light/high contrast and there is artifact running down her right side all the way to the box she is sitting on. Did you use a brush to smooth out the background? Her hair also show signs of brushing and smoothing. What size was your light source and how far was it from the subject? Might try a light behind the subject or a background light. It's hard to get the subject separation with a 43mm lens at F/8.

For a larger print the glow on the shoulder and artifact would definitely show up.

yes, the artifact is very distracting.

The backdrop is painted foam core, so I used the "skin softening" feature of NIK software to blur it out. Then used a layer mask to try and only blur the backdrop. I don't remember doing it...but looking at it I figure I probably went in with a paintbrush and painted in some of the grey too, probably that's why her hairs a bit messed up. Or maybe the crease between the two boards when I was cloning.

As for lighting, we got a 100cm Deepthroat Octabox on camera left with the bulb just above her head and the box angling down. I have another 40cm softbox directly above her.

Winder · 03-19-2015, 08:28 AM

I don't know the size of your studio or what is possible with your setup, but pulling her away from that background a few feet and shooting her at F/4 - 5.6 should help melt the background away with out brushing. I think you have her too close to the background and that is causing a couple of problems.

Wired · 03-19-2015, 09:09 AM

She's a tiny studio unfortunately. Smallest I've worked in. I was butted up right against a wall with the 43 to get this shot.

03-18-2015, 03:40 PM	#1
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	English Lens: FA 43mm Limited Camera: K3 Photo Location: Edmonton's Nair Studios ISO: 100 Shutter Speed: 1/160s Aperture: F8 black and white color I straight up dislike this model, tried so hard to get emotion out of her, but she just seemed pissed off to be there. Second time I've shot her too, and same kinda thing. She came to me too, so I figure she must at least like me. Anyways, I just did what I could with her pose and facial expression and used more of the light and processing to try and "save" the session. the B&W is my preferred shot. p.s. forgot the change the category to Portrait. :P

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03-18-2015, 04:43 PM	#2
micromacro Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,722	I think it came out great. B&W is so dramatic in many ways. Perfect, imo.

03-18-2015, 06:07 PM	#3
robgski Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Shenandoah Valley, Virginia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,799	The colors are well done, but the B&W is my preference. Sorry to hear about the model, she is photogenic.

03-18-2015, 06:55 PM	#4
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	It's a hard shot with her in white against a dark back ground. I think the light might have been too small/hard. Her left shoulder has a glow from the light/high contrast and there is artifact running down her right side all the way to the box she is sitting on. Did you use a brush to smooth out the background? Her hair also show signs of brushing and smoothing. What size was your light source and how far was it from the subject? Might try a light behind the subject or a background light. It's hard to get the subject separation with a 43mm lens at F/8. For a larger print the glow on the shoulder and artifact would definitely show up.

03-19-2015, 03:13 AM	#5
Macario Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Hoek van Holland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,393	You should eb happy that she was pissed off, the photo shows lot's of emotion. And the B&W one is the best, it really brings out the emotion. the color one is a bit dull

03-19-2015, 07:29 AM	#6
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519 Original Poster	Originally posted by Winder It's a hard shot with her in white against a dark back ground. I think the light might have been too small/hard. Her left shoulder has a glow from the light/high contrast and there is artifact running down her right side all the way to the box she is sitting on. Did you use a brush to smooth out the background? Her hair also show signs of brushing and smoothing. What size was your light source and how far was it from the subject? Might try a light behind the subject or a background light. It's hard to get the subject separation with a 43mm lens at F/8. For a larger print the glow on the shoulder and artifact would definitely show up. yes, the artifact is very distracting. The backdrop is painted foam core, so I used the "skin softening" feature of NIK software to blur it out. Then used a layer mask to try and only blur the backdrop. I don't remember doing it...but looking at it I figure I probably went in with a paintbrush and painted in some of the grey too, probably that's why her hairs a bit messed up. Or maybe the crease between the two boards when I was cloning. As for lighting, we got a 100cm Deepthroat Octabox on camera left with the bulb just above her head and the box angling down. I have another 40cm softbox directly above her.

03-19-2015, 08:28 AM	#7
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	I don't know the size of your studio or what is possible with your setup, but pulling her away from that background a few feet and shooting her at F/4 - 5.6 should help melt the background away with out brushing. I think you have her too close to the background and that is causing a couple of problems.

03-19-2015, 09:09 AM	#8
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519 Original Poster	She's a tiny studio unfortunately. Smallest I've worked in. I was butted up right against a wall with the 43 to get this shot.