People Black&White critique please

micromacro · 07-17-2016, 03:40 PM

I've been editing this one long enough to lose my judgement.
What do you think? More improvements, or leave it as is?

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Adam · 07-17-2016, 03:57 PM

I think the composition is great. I'd just crop the left edge ever so slightly tighter so that the weird part of the railing disappears.

micromacro · 07-17-2016, 04:18 PM

Thanks, Adam.
My initial though was the same, but the contest I've been editing this image for is Curves, so I decided to leave more "curves" from the left as well. I submitted image already (the deadline is tonight), but had that doubt about framing.
I'm really terrible for choosing or editing for contests, just getting lost all the time, overthinking, or overdoing.

**Tonytee** · 07-17-2016, 04:41 PM

I believe this is a very wonderful black & white photograph. Everything about it is superb and very interesting. It is easy to see how anyone would experience sensory overload by thinking on it for too long. Many thanks for sharing such a beautiful capture.

Rgds,

Antonio

micromacro · 07-17-2016, 05:54 PM

Thanks, Antonio.
It was the image I've trashed initially because I've not seen the potential in color. As I told, often I just can't see my pictures from "outside". It's hard to be own judge. Then I see the winners and think, damn, I submitted the wrong image, again

How I have not seen it?
The contests are fun and educational; I'm just entering into it. It stimulates doing better job, but overdoing is there as well.

**UncleVanya** · 07-17-2016, 09:00 PM

Keep as is.

**Tonytee** · 07-17-2016, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by micromacro

Thanks, Antonio.
It was the image I've trashed initially because I've not seen the potential in color. As I told, often I just can't see my pictures from "outside". It's hard to be own judge. Then I see the winners and think, damn, I submitted the wrong image, again

How I have not seen it?
The contests are fun and educational; I'm just entering into it. It stimulates doing better job, but overdoing is there as well.

Again I agree it is difficult to be objective when scrutinizing your own work. Try to think of it as someone who just handed you a color print and asked what you would do differently. Remember, it is fine that others like your work, but it is most important that you are pleased with your efforts. For example, if I listened to everyone's suggestions, I would be left with just cloning, healing and perhaps a lot of noise. Gee, I like that last part. I truly like your photo, and if I were you, I would not hesitate to send it off to a few trade journals like Photography Today, Life, etc. Thanks again.

Antonio

Last edited by Tonytee; 08-16-2016 at 06:21 PM. Reason: spelling error.

micromacro · 07-26-2016, 07:36 PM

After receiving two honorable mentions for two monochrome pictures at local contest , I probably will stop telling everybody that I don't know how to do b&w.

Thanks for help, guys!

**acoufap** · 07-31-2016, 10:21 AM

Nice image and composition. This one is already cropped. Maybe there are other cropping opportunities. Could you show the whole frame?

aaacb · 08-16-2016, 03:51 PM

I like how the shadows point towards her. It took me a second to consciously notice them but for me that's what draws in my eye and balances the image, the railing alone would be too little.

Biosaurus · 10-23-2019, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by micromacro

I've been editing this one long enough to lose my judgement.
What do you think? More improvements, or leave it as is?

nice contrast

ChristianRock · 10-23-2019, 10:03 AM

I would try to make the subject ever so slightly brighter to fill another "zone" in the zone system. But that's my taste.
Otherwise, great picture!

**paulh** · 10-23-2019, 10:08 AM

Fantastic image, Lana - nice work!

**UncleVanya** · 10-23-2019, 02:33 PM

Since this thread zombified - @micromacro what did you ever decide. Did you stick with this version or tinker more?

800rate · 11-24-2019, 02:34 PM

Is that Pink?

07-17-2016, 03:57 PM	#2
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07-17-2016, 04:18 PM	#3
micromacro Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,722 Original Poster	Thanks, Adam. My initial though was the same, but the contest I've been editing this image for is Curves, so I decided to leave more "curves" from the left as well. I submitted image already (the deadline is tonight), but had that doubt about framing. I'm really terrible for choosing or editing for contests, just getting lost all the time, overthinking, or overdoing.

07-17-2016, 04:41 PM	#4
Tonytee Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 21,502	I believe this is a very wonderful black & white photograph. Everything about it is superb and very interesting. It is easy to see how anyone would experience sensory overload by thinking on it for too long. Many thanks for sharing such a beautiful capture. Rgds, Antonio

07-17-2016, 05:54 PM	#5
micromacro Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,722 Original Poster	Thanks, Antonio. It was the image I've trashed initially because I've not seen the potential in color. As I told, often I just can't see my pictures from "outside". It's hard to be own judge. Then I see the winners and think, damn, I submitted the wrong image, again How I have not seen it? The contests are fun and educational; I'm just entering into it. It stimulates doing better job, but overdoing is there as well.

07-17-2016, 09:00 PM	#6
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,445	Keep as is.

07-17-2016, 10:29 PM	#7
Tonytee Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 21,502	Originally posted by micromacro Thanks, Antonio. It was the image I've trashed initially because I've not seen the potential in color. As I told, often I just can't see my pictures from "outside". It's hard to be own judge. Then I see the winners and think, damn, I submitted the wrong image, again How I have not seen it? The contests are fun and educational; I'm just entering into it. It stimulates doing better job, but overdoing is there as well. Again I agree it is difficult to be objective when scrutinizing your own work. Try to think of it as someone who just handed you a color print and asked what you would do differently. Remember, it is fine that others like your work, but it is most important that you are pleased with your efforts. For example, if I listened to everyone's suggestions, I would be left with just cloning, healing and perhaps a lot of noise. Gee, I like that last part. I truly like your photo, and if I were you, I would not hesitate to send it off to a few trade journals like Photography Today, Life, etc. Thanks again. Antonio Last edited by Tonytee; 08-16-2016 at 06:21 PM. Reason: spelling error.

07-26-2016, 07:36 PM	#8
micromacro Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,722 Original Poster	After receiving two honorable mentions for two monochrome pictures at local contest , I probably will stop telling everybody that I don't know how to do b&w. Thanks for help, guys!

07-31-2016, 10:21 AM	#9
acoufap Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Munich, Germany Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,190	Nice image and composition. This one is already cropped. Maybe there are other cropping opportunities. Could you show the whole frame?

08-16-2016, 03:51 PM	#10
aaacb Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,726	I like how the shadows point towards her. It took me a second to consciously notice them but for me that's what draws in my eye and balances the image, the railing alone would be too little.

10-23-2019, 01:25 AM	#11
Biosaurus Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Hérouville Saint Clair, Normandy, France Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 143	Originally posted by micromacro I've been editing this one long enough to lose my judgement. What do you think? More improvements, or leave it as is? nice contrast

10-23-2019, 10:03 AM	#12
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910	I would try to make the subject ever so slightly brighter to fill another "zone" in the zone system. But that's my taste. Otherwise, great picture!

11-24-2019, 02:34 PM	#15
800rate Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 252	Is that Pink?

10-23-2019, 10:08 AM	#13
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,301	Fantastic image, Lana - nice work!

10-23-2019, 02:33 PM	#14
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,445	Since this thread zombified - @micromacro what did you ever decide. Did you stick with this version or tinker more?