Landscape Idwal slabs

TV95 · 02-01-2018, 03:30 AM - **1 Like**

A close up of the mountains in the previous image I posted. Any critique is welcome (exposure, composition etc.), I am really willing to improve my photography

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**Bruce Clark** · 02-06-2018, 03:52 AM

If anything, I would boost contrast and saturation slightly. If possible include just a bit more of the lake. Other wise I reckon this is pretty good

CreationBear · 02-06-2018, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by Bruce Clark

I would boost contrast

Great capture!

I'll agree with Bruce that it's a picture that would reward a bit of post-processing with an eye toward increasing the "relief" of the landforms (since directional light might be hard to come by in your part of the world.

) Otherwise, I'm not sure that the thin ribbon of water at the bottom of the frame is enough to provide context for the scene--if you make another trip, it might be worth experimenting with a wider view.

Tranzistors · 02-07-2018, 07:10 AM

The picture is rather tightly cropped from the top and the bottom. I like how the clouds are just touching the top of the cliff, but the tight crop minimises makes it a bit difficult to appreciate.

TV95 · 02-07-2018, 07:33 AM

Thank you for your comments

I really appreciate that! In the postprocessing I cropped the image a little bit. Below I posted the image without crop (still quite tight). I also took another picture at the same location including more of the surroundings. I just did a quick process on this one, and this one is also posted below. Let me know what you think about, especially concerning the crop. Which one do you prefer?

CreationBear · 02-07-2018, 07:57 AM

I'd like to change my answer, please...

With the new processing, I actually like the tight crop better now--I think you have a great template for whatever tonal work you'd like to do...I'd experiment with grad filters and vignettes to give our eyes a "path" to follow on the exposed grey stone. The wide crop at bottom lacks that sense of drama--and technically, I'm not sure if you're going to get the blown highlights in the clouds back.

At any rate, I'll look forward to many more shots from places in Wales, though it's a dead-lock certainty that I won't be able to pronounce any of 'em.

Tranzistors · 02-08-2018, 06:57 AM

Thanks for the uncropped version. The left side of the picture has rather pronounced leading lines that were less noticeable in the tighter crop. You will probably notice that the slope, left part of the cliff and the back of the small hill are all pointing to a single small area in the picture, which is near to the river outlet (I presume that is where the water from the waterfall is headed). The eye will be naturally drawn to the spot, so place something there, either when taking a picture or in post processing.

I noticed that in the “raw” image the hill is brighter than the cliffs in the background, this gives some sense of space and distance. In the processed images the brightness is the same, so I didn't notice the hill right away. The usual standard is to “paint” foreground darker and background lighter. Landschap bij Dinant is a typical example, but in my experience making both background and foreground darker than the middle ground works as well.

I took the liberty with experimenting a bit with your picture. The edits made:

darkened the background a bit,
placed a small boat at the leading line spot (yes, it is a bit cheesy),
cropped the image, so the boat is dead center (vertically)

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**Bruce Clark** · 02-09-2018, 03:24 PM

Well I like the composition of the full image. A bit unfortunate having that orange pole there but until every photographer carries a boat, chainsaw, bolt cutters, angle grinder etc, in their kit these are the things we have to deal with. And deal with them with the tools at our disposal. It is perfectly acceptable to clone these distractions out of the image. I am always keen to see the stones lake bed in the foreground and the blurred reflections in the water. These elements to me at least, give depth to the scene.

TV95 · 02-15-2018, 03:11 AM

Thank you guys for the replies! Initially my plan was to take a picture with a wider crop, like the second one I posted. But during the post-processing I realized that I actually more liked the cropped one. I still don't know which one I prefer. When I have time I will process your suggestions and then decide

02-06-2018, 07:22 AM	#3
CreationBear Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,415	Originally posted by Bruce Clark I would boost contrast Great capture! I'll agree with Bruce that it's a picture that would reward a bit of post-processing with an eye toward increasing the "relief" of the landforms (since directional light might be hard to come by in your part of the world.) Otherwise, I'm not sure that the thin ribbon of water at the bottom of the frame is enough to provide context for the scene--if you make another trip, it might be worth experimenting with a wider view.

02-08-2018, 06:57 AM	#7
Tranzistors Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Latvia Photos: Albums Posts: 112	Thanks for the uncropped version. The left side of the picture has rather pronounced leading lines that were less noticeable in the tighter crop. You will probably notice that the slope, left part of the cliff and the back of the small hill are all pointing to a single small area in the picture, which is near to the river outlet (I presume that is where the water from the waterfall is headed). The eye will be naturally drawn to the spot, so place something there, either when taking a picture or in post processing. I noticed that in the “raw” image the hill is brighter than the cliffs in the background, this gives some sense of space and distance. In the processed images the brightness is the same, so I didn't notice the hill right away. The usual standard is to “paint” foreground darker and background lighter. Landschap bij Dinant is a typical example, but in my experience making both background and foreground darker than the middle ground works as well. I took the liberty with experimenting a bit with your picture. The edits made: darkened the background a bit, placed a small boat at the leading line spot (yes, it is a bit cheesy), cropped the image, so the boat is dead center (vertically) Attached Images

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02-06-2018, 03:52 AM	#2
Bruce Clark Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ocean Grove, Victoria Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,458	If anything, I would boost contrast and saturation slightly. If possible include just a bit more of the lake. Other wise I reckon this is pretty good

02-07-2018, 07:10 AM	#4
Tranzistors Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Latvia Photos: Albums Posts: 112	The picture is rather tightly cropped from the top and the bottom. I like how the clouds are just touching the top of the cliff, but the tight crop minimises makes it a bit difficult to appreciate.

02-07-2018, 07:57 AM	#6
CreationBear Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2,415	I'd like to change my answer, please... With the new processing, I actually like the tight crop better now--I think you have a great template for whatever tonal work you'd like to do...I'd experiment with grad filters and vignettes to give our eyes a "path" to follow on the exposed grey stone. The wide crop at bottom lacks that sense of drama--and technically, I'm not sure if you're going to get the blown highlights in the clouds back. At any rate, I'll look forward to many more shots from places in Wales, though it's a dead-lock certainty that I won't be able to pronounce any of 'em.

02-09-2018, 03:24 PM	#8
Bruce Clark Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ocean Grove, Victoria Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,458	Well I like the composition of the full image. A bit unfortunate having that orange pole there but until every photographer carries a boat, chainsaw, bolt cutters, angle grinder etc, in their kit these are the things we have to deal with. And deal with them with the tools at our disposal. It is perfectly acceptable to clone these distractions out of the image. I am always keen to see the stones lake bed in the foreground and the blurred reflections in the water. These elements to me at least, give depth to the scene.

02-15-2018, 03:11 AM	#9
TV95 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 32 Original Poster	Thank you guys for the replies! Initially my plan was to take a picture with a wider crop, like the second one I posted. But during the post-processing I realized that I actually more liked the cropped one. I still don't know which one I prefer. When I have time I will process your suggestions and then decide