Abstract Which one? + Critique

LeDave · 04-25-2018, 09:22 AM

Can you pick portrait or horizontal style and some critique? Thanks.

tuco · 04-25-2018, 10:43 AM - **2 Likes**

Perhaps try a square crop. Both have unnecessary empty space where the first one the tree ironically mocks the ungraceful pose of the subjects.

**dms** · 04-25-2018, 11:44 AM

The first one. Second has a huge "hole" in the foreground. Although I agree with the above comment-- the tree trunk does seem to be mocking the couple. Also there is a lot of CA, to the point it really intrudes.

LeDave · 04-25-2018, 01:46 PM

Thanks a bunch you guys.

**Schraubstock** · 04-25-2018, 05:27 PM - **1 Like**

If there is enough margin left in the frame you could experiment with this. Just an idea, nothing more.

ChrisPMR · 04-26-2018, 05:06 PM

Hey LeDave,

I would go with square or portrait and a tighter crop.
I'd recompose to not have the branches/shrubs in the foreground covering part of their legs/feet. And with the rock on the left, it feels like it neither in nor out (if that makes sense!)
As the others said their pose is really awkward looking.
I find the light too hard. Maybe try in softer light.
Hope this helps :-)
Chris

**clackers** · 04-26-2018, 06:17 PM

Yeah, I like Schraubstock's crop ... it's all about the couple, I reckon, and the Dutch tilt gives a dynamism to match the energy of their pose.

LeDave · 04-26-2018, 07:49 PM

Thanks guys, I did some spot healing, how you like it now?

**dms** · 04-26-2018, 08:40 PM

The edges of their clothing has a halo that I was referring to when I mentioned CA. It may be due to excessive sharpening, although elsewhere it did not seem to have been sharpened. In any event it is very severe/too obvious.

LeDave · 04-26-2018, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by dms

The edges of their clothing has a halo that I was referring to when I mentioned CA. It may be due to excessive sharpening, although elsewhere it did not seem to have been sharpened. In any event it is very severe/too obvious.

Thanks, I have not sharpened the photo at all. It might be the lens.

**dms** · 04-26-2018, 09:33 PM

Are you sure the sony is not doing something rather aggressive in the in-camera processing to yield the file? Not that I have any experience w/ sony--it's just the look of the image.

**clackers** · 04-26-2018, 10:32 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by LeDave

Thanks, I have not sharpened the photo at all. It might be the lens.

Could be Sony's lossy RAW compression, if that setting's on.

Now, Dave, you're a good guy, we all know that.

If you've switched brands, can you show us your shots we can't take with Pentax? Just haven't seen 'em so far.

LeDave · 04-27-2018, 04:53 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

Could be Sony's lossy RAW compression, if that setting's on.

Now, Dave, you're a good guy, we all know that.

If you've switched brands, can you show us your shots we can't take with Pentax? Just haven't seen 'em so far.

I don't think I have one yet, but this is my best shot I've taken with my a7iii so far.

**clackers** · 04-27-2018, 04:58 AM

Originally posted by LeDave

I don't think I have one yet, but this is my best shot I've taken with my a7iii so far.

It *is* a lovely photo, Dave, and the couple would have been rapt when you showed them - you're doing the ceremony, too?

LeDave · 04-27-2018, 05:18 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clackers

It *is* a lovely photo, Dave, and the couple would have been rapt when you showed them - you're doing the ceremony, too?

Nope, this is my sister and soon to be new brother in law, I am just shooting this for practice and a free engagement session. They hired a legitimate photographer for their actual wedding.

04-25-2018, 09:22 AM	#1
LeDave Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Minneapolis - St. Paul Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,067	Which one? + Critique Lens: 70-200 F4 G Camera: A7iii Photo Location: Eagan, MN Can you pick portrait or horizontal style and some critique? Thanks.

04-25-2018, 05:27 PM - 1 Like	#5
Schraubstock Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,386	If there is enough margin left in the frame you could experiment with this. Just an idea, nothing more. Last edited by Schraubstock; 10-27-2018 at 10:45 PM.

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04-25-2018, 10:43 AM - 2 Likes	#2
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,026	Perhaps try a square crop. Both have unnecessary empty space where the first one the tree ironically mocks the ungraceful pose of the subjects.

04-25-2018, 11:44 AM	#3
dms Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New York, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,192	The first one. Second has a huge "hole" in the foreground. Although I agree with the above comment-- the tree trunk does seem to be mocking the couple. Also there is a lot of CA, to the point it really intrudes.

04-25-2018, 01:46 PM	#4
LeDave Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Minneapolis - St. Paul Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,067 Original Poster	Thanks a bunch you guys.

04-26-2018, 05:06 PM	#6
ChrisPMR Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 44	Hey LeDave, I would go with square or portrait and a tighter crop. I'd recompose to not have the branches/shrubs in the foreground covering part of their legs/feet. And with the rock on the left, it feels like it neither in nor out (if that makes sense!) As the others said their pose is really awkward looking. I find the light too hard. Maybe try in softer light. Hope this helps :-) Chris

04-26-2018, 06:17 PM	#7
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Yeah, I like Schraubstock's crop ... it's all about the couple, I reckon, and the Dutch tilt gives a dynamism to match the energy of their pose.

04-26-2018, 07:49 PM	#8
LeDave Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Minneapolis - St. Paul Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,067 Original Poster	Thanks guys, I did some spot healing, how you like it now?

04-26-2018, 08:40 PM	#9
dms Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New York, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,192	The edges of their clothing has a halo that I was referring to when I mentioned CA. It may be due to excessive sharpening, although elsewhere it did not seem to have been sharpened. In any event it is very severe/too obvious.

04-26-2018, 09:09 PM	#10
LeDave Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Minneapolis - St. Paul Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,067 Original Poster	Originally posted by dms The edges of their clothing has a halo that I was referring to when I mentioned CA. It may be due to excessive sharpening, although elsewhere it did not seem to have been sharpened. In any event it is very severe/too obvious. Thanks, I have not sharpened the photo at all. It might be the lens.

04-26-2018, 09:33 PM	#11
dms Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New York, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,192	Are you sure the sony is not doing something rather aggressive in the in-camera processing to yield the file? Not that I have any experience w/ sony--it's just the look of the image.

04-26-2018, 10:32 PM - 1 Like	#12
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by LeDave Thanks, I have not sharpened the photo at all. It might be the lens. Could be Sony's lossy RAW compression, if that setting's on. Now, Dave, you're a good guy, we all know that. If you've switched brands, can you show us your shots we can't take with Pentax? Just haven't seen 'em so far.

04-27-2018, 04:53 AM - 1 Like	#13
LeDave Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Minneapolis - St. Paul Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,067 Original Poster	Originally posted by clackers Could be Sony's lossy RAW compression, if that setting's on. Now, Dave, you're a good guy, we all know that. If you've switched brands, can you show us your shots we can't take with Pentax? Just haven't seen 'em so far. I don't think I have one yet, but this is my best shot I've taken with my a7iii so far.

04-27-2018, 04:58 AM	#14
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by LeDave I don't think I have one yet, but this is my best shot I've taken with my a7iii so far. It is a lovely photo, Dave, and the couple would have been rapt when you showed them - you're doing the ceremony, too?

04-27-2018, 05:18 AM - 1 Like	#15
LeDave Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Minneapolis - St. Paul Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,067 Original Poster	Originally posted by clackers It is a lovely photo, Dave, and the couple would have been rapt when you showed them - you're doing the ceremony, too? Nope, this is my sister and soon to be new brother in law, I am just shooting this for practice and a free engagement session. They hired a legitimate photographer for their actual wedding.