Abstract A very old watch

**MossyRocks** · 06-11-2018, 07:48 PM - **2 Likes**

Looking for general feedback. I know the blurred writing is distracting but other than that looking for suggestions.
This is the back of a very old womens silver pocket watch about 45mm in diameter that has been in my family since it was purchased new.
Camera: K-3
Lens: 28mm SMC Takumar on an 11mm extension tube
F/8
ISO 100
4s
Flash bounced off of the ceiling

My camera bag was behind the watch but decided to partially bail on so it uncovered the writing on the black shoe box. I do plan on constructing a proper backdrop and surface for doing this in the future so I am aware of that issue.

bertwert · 06-11-2018, 08:45 PM - **1 Like**

I would like to have the top millimetre or two left in the photo; other than that, it's pretty good!
It's a nice pattern on the watch there

**MossyRocks** · 06-12-2018, 03:28 AM

Originally posted by bertwert

I would like to have the top millimetre or two left in the photo; other than that, it's pretty good!
It's a nice pattern on the watch there

I was thinking the same. Thanks for the feedback.

**BigDave** · 06-12-2018, 01:19 PM

Nice detail and feel to the image. Missing the top of the back cover is no big deal for me, as the mind completes it. You have all of the front. BTW, the writing on the shoe box backing does not seem to come through in the posted image, but using a proper back drop is always a good start!

reh321 · 06-12-2018, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by BigDave

Nice detail and feel to the image. Missing the top of the back cover is no big deal for me, as the mind completes it. You have all of the front.

To me, the "head room" issue is more about the front cover than about the back. There is so little space above the front cover that I feel like I have to duck. For that reason, I would like a little more space above.

**MossyRocks** · 06-12-2018, 02:10 PM

Keep them coming. I like the thoughts and reasoning that people provide and the ensuing discussion.

---------- Post added 06-12-18 at 02:20 PM ----------

Originally posted by BigDave

You have all of the front

Actually that is the back cover. This watch is old enough that it actually required a key to wind which is what the back cover covers. The crystal and hands have been lost to time so the watch face is another interesting image that I will get around to posting eventually.

This picture and the one of the face were done because I was disappointed with the results of an outing earlier in the day and wanted to take a picture that wasn't a disappointment. So they were unplanned and fairly late at night so getting a proper backdrop at 10:30pm isn't really an option. Instead I made do with what I could find around the house that wasn't too awful.

Liney · 06-16-2018, 03:49 AM

Nice image, the clarity on the engraved detail is pin sharp and gives a real depth of feel to it. As far as the lighting is concerned there appears to be a darker area just where the flat surface curls away to the edge, between 12 o'clock and 1 o'clock. It may be natural, the result of wear and tear or bad lighting, but it just annoys me a little.

Personally I would have led the watch chain around the lower section of the image, it may fill the empty space and add some context. But that's just me

**MossyRocks** · 06-18-2018, 10:06 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Liney

there appears to be a darker area just where the flat surface curls away to the edge, between 12 o'clock and 1 o'clock. It may be natural, the result of wear and tear or bad lighting

There is a darker area there on the watch so it is natural. I haven't cleaned the

Originally posted by Liney

Personally I would have led the watch chain around the lower section of the image

Good suggestion but the chain isn't so much a chain as it is a few links that connect a woven horse hair rope that has mostly denigrated and is only a couple of inches long at this point. When I shoot the face of the watch again I should be able to get it in and not have it look awful (the woven rope is pretty scraggly as the broken end).

torashi · 06-19-2018, 06:22 AM

I like the mystery. Like others have expressed, it just needs a different framing. That's it.

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**henrikpedersen33** · 06-26-2018, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by MossyRocks

Looking for general feedback. I know the blurred writing is distracting but other than that looking for suggestions.
This is the back of a very old womens silver pocket watch about 45mm in diameter that has been in my family since it was purchased new.
Camera: K-3
Lens: 28mm SMC Takumar on an 11mm extension tube
F/8
ISO 100
4s
Flash bounced off of the ceiling

My camera bag was behind the watch but decided to partially bail on so it uncovered the writing on the black shoe box. I do plan on constructing a proper backdrop and surface for doing this in the future so I am aware of that issue.

Very nice, but as the object is a bit dark, why not use a lighter basement?

donpjt · 07-28-2018, 09:14 AM

I like the pic, just would like some more post processing. Maybe more saturated yellows to make the gold pop and some more brightening the shadows. give it a try!

**MossyRocks** · 07-30-2018, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by donpjt

Maybe more saturated yellows to make the gold pop and some more brightening the shadows

It isn't a gold watch, it is actually sterling silver that has a pretty good patina on it that was illuminated with some tungsten colored bulbs (warm CFLs) and a flash bounced off an off white ceiling.

Photogoof · 08-07-2018, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by MossyRocks

Looking for general feedback. I know the blurred writing is distracting but other than that looking for suggestions.
This is the back of a very old womens silver pocket watch about 45mm in diameter that has been in my family since it was purchased new.
Camera: K-3
Lens: 28mm SMC Takumar on an 11mm extension tube
F/8
ISO 100
4s
Flash bounced off of the ceiling

My camera bag was behind the watch but decided to partially bail on so it uncovered the writing on the black shoe box. I do plan on constructing a proper backdrop and surface for doing this in the future so I am aware of that issue.

I like the lighting and detail.

SunnyG. · 08-31-2018, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by MossyRocks

Looking for general feedback. I know the blurred writing is distracting but other than that looking for suggestions.
This is the back of a very old womens silver pocket watch about 45mm in diameter that has been in my family since it was purchased new.
Camera: K-3
Lens: 28mm SMC Takumar on an 11mm extension tube
F/8
ISO 100
4s
Flash bounced off of the ceiling

My camera bag was behind the watch but decided to partially bail on so it uncovered the writing on the black shoe box. I do plan on constructing a proper backdrop and surface for doing this in the future so I am aware of that issue.

Wow that's beautiful! Perhaps if you reduce the temperature a bit, we'll get to see the real colour!

**MossyRocks** · 08-31-2018, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by SunnyG.

Perhaps if you reduce the temperature a bit, we'll get to see the real colour!

That is pretty much the real color. I dare not polish it because that does take away some value. Sterling silver will get a yellowish then black patina, and after 161 years it has had time to develop a good patina.

06-11-2018, 07:48 PM - 2 Likes	#1
MossyRocks Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,982	A very old watch Lens: 28mm SMC Takumar Camera: K-3 Photo Location: Kitchen Table ISO: 100 Shutter Speed: 4s Aperture: F8 Looking for general feedback. I know the blurred writing is distracting but other than that looking for suggestions. This is the back of a very old womens silver pocket watch about 45mm in diameter that has been in my family since it was purchased new. Camera: K-3 Lens: 28mm SMC Takumar on an 11mm extension tube F/8 ISO 100 4s Flash bounced off of the ceiling My camera bag was behind the watch but decided to partially bail on so it uncovered the writing on the black shoe box. I do plan on constructing a proper backdrop and surface for doing this in the future so I am aware of that issue.

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06-11-2018, 08:45 PM - 1 Like	#2
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,173	I would like to have the top millimetre or two left in the photo; other than that, it's pretty good! It's a nice pattern on the watch there

06-12-2018, 03:28 AM	#3
MossyRocks Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,982 Original Poster	Originally posted by bertwert I would like to have the top millimetre or two left in the photo; other than that, it's pretty good! It's a nice pattern on the watch there I was thinking the same. Thanks for the feedback.

06-12-2018, 01:19 PM	#4
BigDave Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hudson Valley, NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,626	Nice detail and feel to the image. Missing the top of the back cover is no big deal for me, as the mind completes it. You have all of the front. BTW, the writing on the shoe box backing does not seem to come through in the posted image, but using a proper back drop is always a good start!

06-12-2018, 01:46 PM	#5
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by BigDave Nice detail and feel to the image. Missing the top of the back cover is no big deal for me, as the mind completes it. You have all of the front. To me, the "head room" issue is more about the front cover than about the back. There is so little space above the front cover that I feel like I have to duck. For that reason, I would like a little more space above.

06-12-2018, 02:10 PM	#6
MossyRocks Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,982 Original Poster	Keep them coming. I like the thoughts and reasoning that people provide and the ensuing discussion. ---------- Post added 06-12-18 at 02:20 PM ---------- Originally posted by BigDave You have all of the front Actually that is the back cover. This watch is old enough that it actually required a key to wind which is what the back cover covers. The crystal and hands have been lost to time so the watch face is another interesting image that I will get around to posting eventually. This picture and the one of the face were done because I was disappointed with the results of an outing earlier in the day and wanted to take a picture that wasn't a disappointment. So they were unplanned and fairly late at night so getting a proper backdrop at 10:30pm isn't really an option. Instead I made do with what I could find around the house that wasn't too awful.

06-16-2018, 03:49 AM	#7
Liney Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,237	Nice image, the clarity on the engraved detail is pin sharp and gives a real depth of feel to it. As far as the lighting is concerned there appears to be a darker area just where the flat surface curls away to the edge, between 12 o'clock and 1 o'clock. It may be natural, the result of wear and tear or bad lighting, but it just annoys me a little. Personally I would have led the watch chain around the lower section of the image, it may fill the empty space and add some context. But that's just me

06-18-2018, 10:06 AM - 1 Like	#8
MossyRocks Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,982 Original Poster	Originally posted by Liney there appears to be a darker area just where the flat surface curls away to the edge, between 12 o'clock and 1 o'clock. It may be natural, the result of wear and tear or bad lighting There is a darker area there on the watch so it is natural. I haven't cleaned the Originally posted by Liney Personally I would have led the watch chain around the lower section of the image Good suggestion but the chain isn't so much a chain as it is a few links that connect a woven horse hair rope that has mostly denigrated and is only a couple of inches long at this point. When I shoot the face of the watch again I should be able to get it in and not have it look awful (the woven rope is pretty scraggly as the broken end).

06-19-2018, 06:22 AM	#9
torashi Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Medellín Posts: 1,322	I like the mystery. Like others have expressed, it just needs a different framing. That's it. Gesendet von meinem Mi A1 mit Tapatalk

06-26-2018, 12:51 PM	#10
henrikpedersen33 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Roskilde, Denmark Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,624	Originally posted by MossyRocks Looking for general feedback. I know the blurred writing is distracting but other than that looking for suggestions. This is the back of a very old womens silver pocket watch about 45mm in diameter that has been in my family since it was purchased new. Camera: K-3 Lens: 28mm SMC Takumar on an 11mm extension tube F/8 ISO 100 4s Flash bounced off of the ceiling My camera bag was behind the watch but decided to partially bail on so it uncovered the writing on the black shoe box. I do plan on constructing a proper backdrop and surface for doing this in the future so I am aware of that issue. Very nice, but as the object is a bit dark, why not use a lighter basement?

07-28-2018, 09:14 AM	#11
donpjt Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Houston, TX Photos: Gallery Posts: 190	I like the pic, just would like some more post processing. Maybe more saturated yellows to make the gold pop and some more brightening the shadows. give it a try!

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07-30-2018, 10:56 AM	#12
MossyRocks Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,982 Original Poster	Originally posted by donpjt Maybe more saturated yellows to make the gold pop and some more brightening the shadows It isn't a gold watch, it is actually sterling silver that has a pretty good patina on it that was illuminated with some tungsten colored bulbs (warm CFLs) and a flash bounced off an off white ceiling.

08-07-2018, 02:44 PM	#13
Photogoof Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Prague Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,422	Originally posted by MossyRocks Looking for general feedback. I know the blurred writing is distracting but other than that looking for suggestions. This is the back of a very old womens silver pocket watch about 45mm in diameter that has been in my family since it was purchased new. Camera: K-3 Lens: 28mm SMC Takumar on an 11mm extension tube F/8 ISO 100 4s Flash bounced off of the ceiling My camera bag was behind the watch but decided to partially bail on so it uncovered the writing on the black shoe box. I do plan on constructing a proper backdrop and surface for doing this in the future so I am aware of that issue. I like the lighting and detail.

08-31-2018, 10:46 AM	#14
SunnyG. Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 428	Originally posted by MossyRocks Looking for general feedback. I know the blurred writing is distracting but other than that looking for suggestions. This is the back of a very old womens silver pocket watch about 45mm in diameter that has been in my family since it was purchased new. Camera: K-3 Lens: 28mm SMC Takumar on an 11mm extension tube F/8 ISO 100 4s Flash bounced off of the ceiling My camera bag was behind the watch but decided to partially bail on so it uncovered the writing on the black shoe box. I do plan on constructing a proper backdrop and surface for doing this in the future so I am aware of that issue. Wow that's beautiful! Perhaps if you reduce the temperature a bit, we'll get to see the real colour!

08-31-2018, 10:53 AM	#15
MossyRocks Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,982 Original Poster	Originally posted by SunnyG. Perhaps if you reduce the temperature a bit, we'll get to see the real colour! That is pretty much the real color. I dare not polish it because that does take away some value. Sterling silver will get a yellowish then black patina, and after 161 years it has had time to develop a good patina.