People Pinups in old cowshed/barn

Drinkkeri · 04-25-2019, 02:26 AM - **3 Likes**

Obviously there's little left of the original 19th century interior as it's been turned in a restaurant. The model is the wonderful Miss Catnip.

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photolady95 · 04-25-2019, 04:45 PM - **1 Like**

Did you want critiques on these photos or are you just showing the photos you took?

Drinkkeri · 04-25-2019, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by photolady95

Did you want critiques on these photos or are you just showing the photos you took?

It's a critique forum isn't it? You tend to go blind to your own work so if anything comes to mind I'll take it as a fresh look is always welcome.

photolady95 · 04-26-2019, 06:12 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Drinkkeri

It's a critique forum isn't it? You tend to go blind to your own work so if anything comes to mind I'll take it as a fresh look is always welcome.

Yes, it is, but most members post one photo for critique, not five, as you have done. And you didn't ask for critique, you just posted the photos, that's why I asked.

Drinkkeri · 04-26-2019, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by photolady95

Yes, it is, but most members post one photo for critique, not five, as you have done. And you didn't ask for critique, you just posted the photos, that's why I asked.

Figured that asking for it was not necessary as the forum itself is for critique.

This is a series so posting them all was justified in my mind, I can remove other four if needed.

photolady95 · 04-26-2019, 10:06 AM - **2 Likes**

Did you read the rules for posting here before you posted here:

About the Photo Critique Section - PentaxForums.com

Do no post more than 5 photos per thread. We recommend only posting one at a time.You can create another thread to ask about a different photo.

Is intended only for use by those who wish to receive serious critique on their photographs.

If you don't ask for critiquing, no one knows what you want help with, do you want help making the photos better, the ones that look like they have fog over them or something similar, but we don't know unless you tell us. That's was my point.

**luftfluss** · 04-27-2019, 08:56 PM

Hi Drinkkeri,

I think your photos look excellent and have a fun vibe. I did notice that the 2nd photo has a bit less contrast than the other 4 in your set - the black level is not as deep, due to veiling flare, I guess.

swanlefitte · 04-27-2019, 09:38 PM

Love how the light in the background frames her head in 2,3.
I am not a fan of the tipped bar in the last 2. I like the color pallet and overall lighting. In the last 3 you move the light around the face. I like the more even light of 3,4 than 5. The extra brightness does not seem to have a motivation. There's no other light like that.
Overall I would be happy with the shoot.

Drinkkeri · 04-29-2019, 02:04 AM

Originally posted by luftfluss

Hi Drinkkeri,

I think your photos look excellent and have a fun vibe. I did notice that the 2nd photo has a bit less contrast than the other 4 in your set - the black level is not as deep, due to veiling flare, I guess.

Thank you! The flare is artificial so it's a bit embarassing error on my part, luckily that's an easy fix.

Originally posted by swanlefitte

Love how the light in the background frames her head in 2,3.
I am not a fan of the tipped bar in the last 2. I like the color pallet and overall lighting. In the last 3 you move the light around the face. I like the more even light of 3,4 than 5. The extra brightness does not seem to have a motivation. There's no other light like that.
Overall I would be happy with the shoot.

I think I should have tilted it even more but that's a matter of opinion I think

The background lighting needs indeed work, or should have been lighted differently, to give a more realistic feel to the whole image. There was no room for a large modifier to the background light and the hard reflectors I had created an unholy mess of the left side of the image where you see that rail and tables&chairs (and even more infuriatingly my jacket hanging on the chair). I was wondering if a globe light would have worked hidden behind the top beam on the left nut I didn't bring that one with me. Any suggestions?

Drinkkeri · 04-29-2019, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by photolady95

Did you read the rules for posting here before you posted here:

About the Photo Critique Section - PentaxForums.com

Do no post more than 5 photos per thread. We recommend only posting one at a time.You can create another thread to ask about a different photo.

Is intended only for use by those who wish to receive serious critique on their photographs.

If you don't ask for critiquing, no one knows what you want help with, do you want help making the photos better, the ones that look like they have fog over them or something similar, but we don't know unless you tell us. That's was my point.

Yes I did and that's why I posted the essential five of the series, not all twelve.

Critique is in essence and opinion of one's peers with constructive criticism and advice. Showcasing a photo or a series without anything else to direct the critic is a customary thing when one looks for honest unadultared opinion of the work as a whole. Im not looking for praise as that does not push you forward.

Tolelady Downunder · 05-09-2019, 04:48 AM

My humble opinion - as I haven't tried this type of photography. The model is attractive, her costume is wonderful and the setting in the bar is great. She is well lit and the colors are pleasing. Things to improve - the model doesn't look comfortable - and her smile seems forced. Photo 1&2 - the flare from the background lamp is distracting. Photo #5 the way she is holding her drink seems unnatural. Perhaps try leaning on the sofa arm or sit on the sofa seat holding the drink closer to her mouth like she is taking a sip. I understand sometimes it takes a while for the model to warm up and become more comfortable, so a couple of drinks and getting her relaxed and laughing might make give a more natural expression.

desertscape · 05-19-2019, 02:39 PM

The technical aspects of your shots seem OK but calling these Pinup shots is a stretch. Your model is just not what most would call pinup looking.

**clackers** · 05-19-2019, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by desertscape

The technical aspects of your shots seem OK but calling these Pinup shots is a stretch. Your model is just not what most would call pinup looking.

In 2019, wow!

desertscape · 05-20-2019, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by clackers

In 2019, wow!

One should not post something in a Photo Critique and expect no criticisms.

**clackers** · 05-21-2019, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by desertscape

One should not post something in a Photo Critique and expect no criticisms.

That's a truism, it was your specific comment that has me reeling, Desertscape!

"Out of touch" would be the criticism of your criticism.

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04-25-2019, 04:45 PM - 1 Like	#2
photolady95 Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cruising the forum watching his back Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,712	Did you want critiques on these photos or are you just showing the photos you took?

04-25-2019, 10:12 PM	#3
Drinkkeri Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 136 Original Poster	Originally posted by photolady95 Did you want critiques on these photos or are you just showing the photos you took? It's a critique forum isn't it? You tend to go blind to your own work so if anything comes to mind I'll take it as a fresh look is always welcome.

04-26-2019, 06:12 AM - 1 Like	#4
photolady95 Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cruising the forum watching his back Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,712	Originally posted by Drinkkeri It's a critique forum isn't it? You tend to go blind to your own work so if anything comes to mind I'll take it as a fresh look is always welcome. Yes, it is, but most members post one photo for critique, not five, as you have done. And you didn't ask for critique, you just posted the photos, that's why I asked.

04-26-2019, 09:17 AM	#5
Drinkkeri Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 136 Original Poster	Originally posted by photolady95 Yes, it is, but most members post one photo for critique, not five, as you have done. And you didn't ask for critique, you just posted the photos, that's why I asked. Figured that asking for it was not necessary as the forum itself is for critique. This is a series so posting them all was justified in my mind, I can remove other four if needed.

04-26-2019, 10:06 AM - 2 Likes	#6
photolady95 Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Cruising the forum watching his back Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,712	Did you read the rules for posting here before you posted here: About the Photo Critique Section - PentaxForums.com Do no post more than 5 photos per thread. We recommend only posting one at a time.You can create another thread to ask about a different photo. Is intended only for use by those who wish to receive serious critique on their photographs. If you don't ask for critiquing, no one knows what you want help with, do you want help making the photos better, the ones that look like they have fog over them or something similar, but we don't know unless you tell us. That's was my point.

04-27-2019, 08:56 PM	#7
luftfluss Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,619	Hi Drinkkeri, I think your photos look excellent and have a fun vibe. I did notice that the 2nd photo has a bit less contrast than the other 4 in your set - the black level is not as deep, due to veiling flare, I guess.

04-27-2019, 09:38 PM	#8
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	Love how the light in the background frames her head in 2,3. I am not a fan of the tipped bar in the last 2. I like the color pallet and overall lighting. In the last 3 you move the light around the face. I like the more even light of 3,4 than 5. The extra brightness does not seem to have a motivation. There's no other light like that. Overall I would be happy with the shoot.

04-29-2019, 02:04 AM	#9
Drinkkeri Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 136 Original Poster	Originally posted by luftfluss Hi Drinkkeri, I think your photos look excellent and have a fun vibe. I did notice that the 2nd photo has a bit less contrast than the other 4 in your set - the black level is not as deep, due to veiling flare, I guess. Thank you! The flare is artificial so it's a bit embarassing error on my part, luckily that's an easy fix. Originally posted by swanlefitte Love how the light in the background frames her head in 2,3. I am not a fan of the tipped bar in the last 2. I like the color pallet and overall lighting. In the last 3 you move the light around the face. I like the more even light of 3,4 than 5. The extra brightness does not seem to have a motivation. There's no other light like that. Overall I would be happy with the shoot. I think I should have tilted it even more but that's a matter of opinion I think The background lighting needs indeed work, or should have been lighted differently, to give a more realistic feel to the whole image. There was no room for a large modifier to the background light and the hard reflectors I had created an unholy mess of the left side of the image where you see that rail and tables&chairs (and even more infuriatingly my jacket hanging on the chair). I was wondering if a globe light would have worked hidden behind the top beam on the left nut I didn't bring that one with me. Any suggestions?

04-29-2019, 02:08 PM	#10
Drinkkeri Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Finland Photos: Gallery Posts: 136 Original Poster	Originally posted by photolady95 Did you read the rules for posting here before you posted here: About the Photo Critique Section - PentaxForums.com Do no post more than 5 photos per thread. We recommend only posting one at a time.You can create another thread to ask about a different photo. Is intended only for use by those who wish to receive serious critique on their photographs. If you don't ask for critiquing, no one knows what you want help with, do you want help making the photos better, the ones that look like they have fog over them or something similar, but we don't know unless you tell us. That's was my point. Yes I did and that's why I posted the essential five of the series, not all twelve. Critique is in essence and opinion of one's peers with constructive criticism and advice. Showcasing a photo or a series without anything else to direct the critic is a customary thing when one looks for honest unadultared opinion of the work as a whole. Im not looking for praise as that does not push you forward.

05-09-2019, 04:48 AM	#11
Tolelady Downunder Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 113	My humble opinion - as I haven't tried this type of photography. The model is attractive, her costume is wonderful and the setting in the bar is great. She is well lit and the colors are pleasing. Things to improve - the model doesn't look comfortable - and her smile seems forced. Photo 1&2 - the flare from the background lamp is distracting. Photo #5 the way she is holding her drink seems unnatural. Perhaps try leaning on the sofa arm or sit on the sofa seat holding the drink closer to her mouth like she is taking a sip. I understand sometimes it takes a while for the model to warm up and become more comfortable, so a couple of drinks and getting her relaxed and laughing might make give a more natural expression.

05-19-2019, 02:39 PM	#12
desertscape Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,272	The technical aspects of your shots seem OK but calling these Pinup shots is a stretch. Your model is just not what most would call pinup looking.

05-19-2019, 08:12 PM	#13
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by desertscape The technical aspects of your shots seem OK but calling these Pinup shots is a stretch. Your model is just not what most would call pinup looking. In 2019, wow!

05-20-2019, 10:20 AM	#14
desertscape Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,272	Originally posted by clackers In 2019, wow! One should not post something in a Photo Critique and expect no criticisms.

05-21-2019, 12:05 AM	#15
clackers Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 16,397	Originally posted by desertscape One should not post something in a Photo Critique and expect no criticisms. That's a truism, it was your specific comment that has me reeling, Desertscape! "Out of touch" would be the criticism of your criticism.