Architecture Too Much Lean For Real Estate?

**FozzFoster** · 10-01-2019, 10:45 AM

What are your thoughts on the amount of lean this shot has?
I know it's sacrilege to have leaning lines in architecture...
I usually level my camera perfectly. However, for this shot I tried to get more in the frame and needed to tilt the lens which causes a lean on all my straight lines.
I can adjust the straightness in Lightroom, but when cropped a lot of the image is removed.
Is it too distracting in this photo?
Thoughts?
Thanks!

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**MossyRocks** · 10-01-2019, 10:58 AM - **1 Like**

I think that there is too much lean. It kind of reminds me of those houses you see on stilts on the sides of cliffs where it looks like it is ready to fall over at any minute. I would think this could be managed better by shooting at a different height and angle but I haven't done any real estate shooting so I could be completely wrong about that.

**FozzFoster** · 10-01-2019, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by MossyRocks

I think that there is too much lean.

Thank you for sharing your opinion!

**dms** · 10-01-2019, 11:06 AM - **1 Like**

As a consumer I would think so, and as a photographer most certainly IMO. Attached is a quick adjustment using perspective and skew in photoshop. I think these corrections should be available in most pp software as they don't require (AFAIK) layers. And it does not seem to really detract from the feeling/elements of the space (again IMO).

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**FozzFoster** · 10-01-2019, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by dms

As a consumer I would think so, and as a photographer most certainly IMO.

Yes! I totally agree.. I was curious how much I might be able to get away with.. haha not much I guess!

Originally posted by dms

Attached is a quick adjustment using perspective and skew in photoshop.

Thanks for showing me this!
I had used Lightrooms corrections (I'm still very new at Photoshop) and I didn't like the results at all, attached.
You can see much more of the ceiling in your example - great work!

I guess it's just a post-processing talent/ learning curve thing then, eh?
Thanks again!

house · 10-01-2019, 11:24 AM - **1 Like**

There's a strange interaction between your skew, the shape of the rooms and the shape of that counter.

It looks like a kaleidoscope! It could be interesting as an image but I'm personally close to dogmatic about vertical verticals in architecture shots.

**dms** · 10-01-2019, 11:24 AM - **1 Like**

There are at least three or four alternatives.
1. Get a wider FL lens. A fisheye w/ Fisheye-Hemi (software) correction
2. Take a couple of photos (spaced horizontally) and then merged w/ a panorama function/software
3. Use post processing as I did--the major ones (as I mentioned I used in Photoshop) being perspective control and skew
4. Get a Perspective Control Lens. A 28mm PC lens on FF is my guess as what would do it. Or possibly a 35mm one (Nikon) and combine w/ item 2 w/ lens shift (again FF).

Last edited by dms; 10-01-2019 at 11:28 AM. Reason: Clarify (the item 4) 35mm shift is for FF.

**FozzFoster** · 10-01-2019, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by house

It looks like a kaleidoscope!

Originally posted by dms

There are at least three or four alternatives.

Thank you for your feedback!

**dms** · 10-01-2019, 11:37 AM - **1 Like**

Your welcome.
BTW for some reason I thought you used 20mm on cropped sensor, as it was 11mm my speculating about 28mm PC lens was wrong/ditto for 35mm PC lens.

Gerbermiester · 10-01-2019, 01:19 PM - **1 Like**

I agree with the comments above. But, also consider adding off camera bounce flash to the frame to help balance the outdoor exposure.
Real Estate Photography Flash Setup

swanlefitte · 10-01-2019, 01:51 PM - **1 Like**

+1 to too much. It photo does good at showing the flow thru but at the expense of giving a surreal feel that is off putting.
Confined areas are hard. It's hard to get both a good image and capture the reality. I have reshot rooms many many times to succeed. I envy those who can do it fast and get it right.

**FozzFoster** · 10-02-2019, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by dms

BTW for some reason I thought you used 20mm on cropped sensor, as it was 11mm my speculating about 28mm PC lens was wrong/ditto for 35mm PC lens.

Originally posted by Gerbermiester

I agree with the comments above. But, also consider adding off camera bounce flash to the frame to help balance the outdoor exposure.

Originally posted by swanlefitte

+1 to too much. It photo does good at showing the flow thru but at the expense of giving a surreal feel that is off putting.

Thanks again for all the feedback!

shaolen · 10-04-2019, 09:22 PM

Definitely needs to be the lean corrected. Like the fixes given above

**FozzFoster** · 10-05-2019, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by shaolen

Like the fixes given above

thanks for commenting

shaolen · 10-05-2019, 03:39 PM

Sure. And yeah I mean maybe if the client really wants and is ok with *some* distortion like that but otherwise never allow distortion. Also never be afraid to *not* go your widest

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10-01-2019, 10:58 AM - 1 Like	#2
MossyRocks Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Minnesota Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,982	I think that there is too much lean. It kind of reminds me of those houses you see on stilts on the sides of cliffs where it looks like it is ready to fall over at any minute. I would think this could be managed better by shooting at a different height and angle but I haven't done any real estate shooting so I could be completely wrong about that.

10-01-2019, 11:04 AM	#3
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806 Original Poster	Originally posted by MossyRocks I think that there is too much lean. Thank you for sharing your opinion!

10-01-2019, 11:24 AM - 1 Like	#6
house Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Photos: Albums Posts: 3,306	There's a strange interaction between your skew, the shape of the rooms and the shape of that counter. It looks like a kaleidoscope! It could be interesting as an image but I'm personally close to dogmatic about vertical verticals in architecture shots.

10-01-2019, 11:24 AM - 1 Like	#7
dms Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New York, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,192	There are at least three or four alternatives. 1. Get a wider FL lens. A fisheye w/ Fisheye-Hemi (software) correction 2. Take a couple of photos (spaced horizontally) and then merged w/ a panorama function/software 3. Use post processing as I did--the major ones (as I mentioned I used in Photoshop) being perspective control and skew 4. Get a Perspective Control Lens. A 28mm PC lens on FF is my guess as what would do it. Or possibly a 35mm one (Nikon) and combine w/ item 2 w/ lens shift (again FF). Last edited by dms; 10-01-2019 at 11:28 AM. Reason: Clarify (the item 4) 35mm shift is for FF.

10-01-2019, 11:26 AM	#8
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806 Original Poster	Originally posted by house It looks like a kaleidoscope! Originally posted by dms There are at least three or four alternatives. Thank you for your feedback!

10-01-2019, 11:37 AM - 1 Like	#9
dms Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New York, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,192	Your welcome. BTW for some reason I thought you used 20mm on cropped sensor, as it was 11mm my speculating about 28mm PC lens was wrong/ditto for 35mm PC lens.

10-01-2019, 01:19 PM - 1 Like	#10
Gerbermiester Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: British Columbia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 377	I agree with the comments above. But, also consider adding off camera bounce flash to the frame to help balance the outdoor exposure. Real Estate Photography Flash Setup

10-01-2019, 01:51 PM - 1 Like	#11
swanlefitte Pentaxian Join Date: May 2015 Location: Minneapolis Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,068	+1 to too much. It photo does good at showing the flow thru but at the expense of giving a surreal feel that is off putting. Confined areas are hard. It's hard to get both a good image and capture the reality. I have reshot rooms many many times to succeed. I envy those who can do it fast and get it right.

10-02-2019, 06:13 AM	#12
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806 Original Poster	Originally posted by dms BTW for some reason I thought you used 20mm on cropped sensor, as it was 11mm my speculating about 28mm PC lens was wrong/ditto for 35mm PC lens. Originally posted by Gerbermiester I agree with the comments above. But, also consider adding off camera bounce flash to the frame to help balance the outdoor exposure. Originally posted by swanlefitte +1 to too much. It photo does good at showing the flow thru but at the expense of giving a surreal feel that is off putting. Thanks again for all the feedback!

10-04-2019, 09:22 PM	#13
shaolen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,047	Definitely needs to be the lean corrected. Like the fixes given above

10-05-2019, 07:33 AM	#14
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806 Original Poster	Originally posted by shaolen Like the fixes given above thanks for commenting

10-05-2019, 03:39 PM	#15
shaolen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,047	Sure. And yeah I mean maybe if the client really wants and is ok with some distortion like that but otherwise never allow distortion. Also never be afraid to not go your widest

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