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**BigDave** · 12-14-2019, 01:25 PM - **1 Like**

New Fallen Snow- Just after the storm cleared...

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**PJ1** · 12-14-2019, 02:26 PM

Quite a lot of snow, too, although not so evidence in the distance. Nice shot. Will the lake freeze?

GRB · 12-14-2019, 08:30 PM

Looks like some frost and snow.

bertwert · 12-14-2019, 08:36 PM

Neat shot, though I find the branch in the right foreground distracting

STARHUNTER94 · 12-14-2019, 08:38 PM

I'd rather be out there vs shovelling it just now

nice shot

**BigDave** · 12-16-2019, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by PJ1

Nice shot. Will the lake freeze?

Eventually, given low temperatures, the lake can freeze over into March. Some years, yes, some no. And this is as it has been for 40 years (before climate change!).

The branches in the bottom right, ideally would be gone, but I did not have my step ladder that day and cloning the water was not working.
Thanks for looking and the comments!

**Madaboutpix** · 12-22-2019, 08:37 AM

Must have been an amazing moment, but I'm not sure if your composition is strong enough to convey it to the viewer. My eyes, at least, seem to keep wandering between different elements in the frame, a bit unsure of what it was that you wanted to show. My best guess would have been the lake (or stream) in winter, but your title suggests it was the new snow just after the storm. At the resolution provided, it is also hard to say what parts of the image are really in focus, but that may be a non-issue when viewed at higher res.

nonpigliounoshoot · 12-23-2019, 03:05 AM

well managed.

HoutHans · 12-23-2019, 03:48 AM

I like the image a lot. I would have darkened the sky a bit, to add more depth to the image and the idea that there was a storm (the sky seems to have enough activity in it).

**BigDave** · 12-23-2019, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by Madaboutpix

y eyes, at least, seem to keep wandering between different elements

Which is exactly what I wanted the viewer to do, wander through the image, but never wanting to leave it! Iys a winter landscape, some things to bring you in, some to move your eye around.

08amczb · 12-23-2019, 02:11 PM

I would use a smaller aperture, the K-1 can produce much sharper images. The other thing is the exposure, I would expose one or two stops darker and lighten the shadows in post, it would preserve more from the sky.
I like the composition and the calm mood of the image!

**BigDave** · 12-23-2019, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by 08amczb

The other thing is the exposure, I would expose one or two stops darker and lighten the shadows in post,

I work from the "expose to the right" technique, as there is MUCH more info available in the light areas than there can be in the darker areas. If you expose too dark, you start picking up noise and getting dark things lighter can result in loss of detail. The trick is not to go TOO far to the right! See the following:
https://photographylife.com/exposing-to-the-right-explained

As a reference I have included the converted (from DNG) JPG file (downsized, with Highlight Recovery applied (Highlight recovery only can bed applied to the RAW file).

PS- If the sky had too much detail in it and was too dark it would look odd compared to the lightness in the rest of the image...

08amczb · 12-23-2019, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by BigDave

I work from the "expose to the right" technique, as there is MUCH more info available in the light areas than there can be in the darker areas. If you expose too dark, you start picking up noise and getting dark things lighter can result in loss of detail. The trick is not to go TOO far to the right! See the following:
https://photographylife.com/exposing-to-the-right-explained

As a reference I have included the converted (from DNG) JPG file (downsized, with Highlight Recovery applied (Highlight recovery only can bed applied to the RAW file).

PS- If the sky had too much detail in it and was too dark it would look odd compared to the lightness in the rest of the image...

Thanks for sharing the original! Nothing can beat ETTR, the reference looks perfectly fine. Anyway on the processed image, the sky is too bright for me.
I really like the processing of the trees and the water!

Fenwoodian · 12-23-2019, 03:15 PM

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Lovely photo! The B&W version almost looks like an IR photo.

We've got plenty of snow here too (northern Wisconsin USA). Just spent the last 3 days shoveling it off of my roof so it does not collapse.

**BigDave** · 12-24-2019, 03:52 AM

Didn't seem like that much snow to worry about! 2 fe4t, maybe... Makes you wonder why they went to these roofs with the lower pitches in north country!

OK, I reworked the image some and pulled more from the sky. Had to stat from the Raw file again. With the season, I had the time!
HEre's another try at feedback...

12-23-2019, 03:15 PM	#14
Fenwoodian Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,875	. Lovely photo! The B&W version almost looks like an IR photo. We've got plenty of snow here too (northern Wisconsin USA). Just spent the last 3 days shoveling it off of my roof so it does not collapse. Last edited by Fenwoodian; 05-06-2020 at 10:47 PM.

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12-14-2019, 02:26 PM	#2
PJ1 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toowoomba, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,486	Quite a lot of snow, too, although not so evidence in the distance. Nice shot. Will the lake freeze?

12-14-2019, 08:30 PM	#3
GRB Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Southcentral Alaska Posts: 817	Looks like some frost and snow.

12-14-2019, 08:36 PM	#4
bertwert Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,172	Neat shot, though I find the branch in the right foreground distracting

12-14-2019, 08:38 PM	#5
STARHUNTER94 Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 771	I'd rather be out there vs shovelling it just now nice shot

12-16-2019, 02:37 PM	#6
BigDave Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hudson Valley, NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,626 Original Poster	Originally posted by PJ1 Nice shot. Will the lake freeze? Eventually, given low temperatures, the lake can freeze over into March. Some years, yes, some no. And this is as it has been for 40 years (before climate change!). The branches in the bottom right, ideally would be gone, but I did not have my step ladder that day and cloning the water was not working. Thanks for looking and the comments!

12-22-2019, 08:37 AM	#7
Madaboutpix Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Rhine-Westphalia Posts: 1,447	Must have been an amazing moment, but I'm not sure if your composition is strong enough to convey it to the viewer. My eyes, at least, seem to keep wandering between different elements in the frame, a bit unsure of what it was that you wanted to show. My best guess would have been the lake (or stream) in winter, but your title suggests it was the new snow just after the storm. At the resolution provided, it is also hard to say what parts of the image are really in focus, but that may be a non-issue when viewed at higher res.

12-23-2019, 03:05 AM	#8
nonpigliounoshoot Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 735	well managed.

12-23-2019, 03:48 AM	#9
HoutHans Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Appingedam Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,123	I like the image a lot. I would have darkened the sky a bit, to add more depth to the image and the idea that there was a storm (the sky seems to have enough activity in it).

12-23-2019, 02:08 PM	#10
BigDave Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Hudson Valley, NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,626 Original Poster	Originally posted by Madaboutpix y eyes, at least, seem to keep wandering between different elements Which is exactly what I wanted the viewer to do, wander through the image, but never wanting to leave it! Iys a winter landscape, some things to bring you in, some to move your eye around.

12-23-2019, 02:11 PM	#11
08amczb Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 796	I would use a smaller aperture, the K-1 can produce much sharper images. The other thing is the exposure, I would expose one or two stops darker and lighten the shadows in post, it would preserve more from the sky. I like the composition and the calm mood of the image!

12-23-2019, 02:59 PM	#13
08amczb Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 796	Originally posted by BigDave I work from the "expose to the right" technique, as there is MUCH more info available in the light areas than there can be in the darker areas. If you expose too dark, you start picking up noise and getting dark things lighter can result in loss of detail. The trick is not to go TOO far to the right! See the following: https://photographylife.com/exposing-to-the-right-explained As a reference I have included the converted (from DNG) JPG file (downsized, with Highlight Recovery applied (Highlight recovery only can bed applied to the RAW file). PS- If the sky had too much detail in it and was too dark it would look odd compared to the lightness in the rest of the image... Thanks for sharing the original! Nothing can beat ETTR, the reference looks perfectly fine. Anyway on the processed image, the sky is too bright for me. I really like the processing of the trees and the water!

Black & White New Snow- after the storm

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