Landscape Lofoten, Norway

**acoufap** · 02-21-2021, 09:18 AM

Hi, nice picture!

By the way Capture One reports a 15mm lens.

Since I love Black & White my quick attempt is of that kind. Maybe you like it.

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**Michail_P** · 02-21-2021, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by Tomlavl

It is the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED AS UMC. Thank you

True, the conditions were far from perfect and quite dark. I will try to get there back again for sure, let's hope the frontier will reopen soon...

I don't know much about landscape photography, I guess the proper way to do it is to use a very small aperture/tripod. Is HDR a good idea?

Landscapes require an aperture small enough to finely focus, but not too small, to avoid diffraction. Normally about f8-f13
HDR is praised by many as a good way to go with landscapes. I never go this way, because it's so easy to go wrong. I've tried different exposure settings, Pixel Shift, bracketing ... I prefer to expose for the mid-tones as it is easy to recover detail from both shadows and highlights. A sturdy tripod, the lowest ISO possible (100-640 is as far as I am willing to go for orthodox landscape work) and most of the times I generally underexpose by 1/2-1 stop, to get the most out of colour detail and saturation, naturally.
Auto - HDR is often not so realistic, so I'd prefer to approach it manually. This is doable in almost any situation if you try to work with masks. Classic burn/dodge is very effective , especially easy (with some practice , of course) in LR , darktable.... Do not overdo it. Shadows should be dark enough. If you don't like the result, study the light of the area and come back when it's most complimentary. I myself shoot in hard sunlight, but I don't aim for the magical , commercial , mainstream looking landscapes, because that's not what represents my place. Hope I've been clear.

Tomlavl · 02-21-2021, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by Kerrowdown

As I did suggest to you, let us all have go... I'd better have a crack at it myself.

So here's mine... mind you, I think I must have been there on a different misty evening to you.

There's no doubt, you were definitely here but not the same day! Although I don't really like the clouds, I really like the warm mood you brought to the picture, especially with the green tones. the picture looks really good!

Originally posted by acoufap

Hi, nice picture!

By the way Capture One reports a 15mm lens.

Since I love Black & White my quick attempt is of that kind. Maybe you like it.

The picture looks great in black and white

oh yeah, as I said I got the aperture block failure on my k-70 so I only use manual lenses (temporary RIP my 50mm f1.8 lens). My lens is not automatically detected by my camera so it asks me every time for the focal length, but there are no '14mm' entry, instead I always choose the closest one which is '15mm' that's why.

**Kerrowdown** · 02-21-2021, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by Tomlavl

There's no doubt, you were definitely here but not the same day!

Well that does explain then why I didn't see you there.

Originally posted by Tomlavl

Although I don't really like the clouds, I really like the warm mood you brought to the picture, especially with the green tones. the picture looks really good!

I'm glad you liked my interpretation of your image, but as I said... yours was a good image to work with in the first place.

Tomlavl · 02-21-2021, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Michail_P

Landscapes require an aperture small enough to finely focus, but not too small, to avoid diffraction. Normally about f8-f13
HDR is praised by many as a good way to go with landscapes. I never go this way, because it's so easy to go wrong. I've tried different exposure settings, Pixel Shift, bracketing ... I prefer to expose for the mid-tones as it is easy to recover detail from both shadows and highlights. A sturdy tripod, the lowest ISO possible (100-640 is as far as I am willing to go for orthodox landscape work) and most of the times I generally underexpose by 1/2-1 stop, to get the most out of colour detail and saturation, naturally.
Auto - HDR is often not so realistic, so I'd prefer to approach it manually. This is doable in almost any situation if you try to work with masks. Classic burn/dodge is very effective , especially easy (with some practice , of course) in LR , darktable.... Do not overdo it. Shadows should be dark enough. If you don't like the result, study the light of the area and come back when it's most complimentary. I myself shoot in hard sunlight, but I don't aim for the magical , commercial , mainstream looking landscapes, because that's not what represents my place. Hope I've been clear.

Thanks for the information! Well I guess the first step would be to get clean pictures. HDR will come after, I have time I don't need to over rush everything. So next step: clean camera sensor and buy a tripod

**Kerrowdown** · 02-21-2021, 05:04 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Tomlavl

buy a tripod

Buy a decent one... and it will be the only one you ever buy.

**Pål Jensen** · 02-22-2021, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Michail_P

HDR is praised by many as a good way to go with landscapes. I never go this way, because it's so easy to go wrong.

I was of the same opinion before I used the HDR function in Lightroom. Works remarkably well.

normhead · 02-22-2021, 12:45 PM - **1 Like**

OK< I gave you 10 minutes, showing some of the global changes I made although, you can't see the brush adjustments.

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02-21-2021, 10:09 AM	#17
Michail_P Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Kalymnos Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,006	Originally posted by Tomlavl It is the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED AS UMC. Thank you True, the conditions were far from perfect and quite dark. I will try to get there back again for sure, let's hope the frontier will reopen soon... I don't know much about landscape photography, I guess the proper way to do it is to use a very small aperture/tripod. Is HDR a good idea? Landscapes require an aperture small enough to finely focus, but not too small, to avoid diffraction. Normally about f8-f13 HDR is praised by many as a good way to go with landscapes. I never go this way, because it's so easy to go wrong. I've tried different exposure settings, Pixel Shift, bracketing ... I prefer to expose for the mid-tones as it is easy to recover detail from both shadows and highlights. A sturdy tripod, the lowest ISO possible (100-640 is as far as I am willing to go for orthodox landscape work) and most of the times I generally underexpose by 1/2-1 stop, to get the most out of colour detail and saturation, naturally. Auto - HDR is often not so realistic, so I'd prefer to approach it manually. This is doable in almost any situation if you try to work with masks. Classic burn/dodge is very effective , especially easy (with some practice , of course) in LR , darktable.... Do not overdo it. Shadows should be dark enough. If you don't like the result, study the light of the area and come back when it's most complimentary. I myself shoot in hard sunlight, but I don't aim for the magical , commercial , mainstream looking landscapes, because that's not what represents my place. Hope I've been clear.

02-21-2021, 01:28 PM	#18
Tomlavl New Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Photos: Gallery Posts: 11 Original Poster	Originally posted by Kerrowdown As I did suggest to you, let us all have go... I'd better have a crack at it myself. So here's mine... mind you, I think I must have been there on a different misty evening to you. There's no doubt, you were definitely here but not the same day! Although I don't really like the clouds, I really like the warm mood you brought to the picture, especially with the green tones. the picture looks really good! Originally posted by acoufap Hi, nice picture! By the way Capture One reports a 15mm lens. Since I love Black & White my quick attempt is of that kind. Maybe you like it. The picture looks great in black and white oh yeah, as I said I got the aperture block failure on my k-70 so I only use manual lenses (temporary RIP my 50mm f1.8 lens). My lens is not automatically detected by my camera so it asks me every time for the focal length, but there are no '14mm' entry, instead I always choose the closest one which is '15mm' that's why.

02-21-2021, 01:56 PM	#19
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,833	Originally posted by Tomlavl There's no doubt, you were definitely here but not the same day! Well that does explain then why I didn't see you there. Originally posted by Tomlavl Although I don't really like the clouds, I really like the warm mood you brought to the picture, especially with the green tones. the picture looks really good! I'm glad you liked my interpretation of your image, but as I said... yours was a good image to work with in the first place.

02-21-2021, 02:01 PM	#20
Tomlavl New Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Photos: Gallery Posts: 11 Original Poster	Originally posted by Michail_P Landscapes require an aperture small enough to finely focus, but not too small, to avoid diffraction. Normally about f8-f13 HDR is praised by many as a good way to go with landscapes. I never go this way, because it's so easy to go wrong. I've tried different exposure settings, Pixel Shift, bracketing ... I prefer to expose for the mid-tones as it is easy to recover detail from both shadows and highlights. A sturdy tripod, the lowest ISO possible (100-640 is as far as I am willing to go for orthodox landscape work) and most of the times I generally underexpose by 1/2-1 stop, to get the most out of colour detail and saturation, naturally. Auto - HDR is often not so realistic, so I'd prefer to approach it manually. This is doable in almost any situation if you try to work with masks. Classic burn/dodge is very effective , especially easy (with some practice , of course) in LR , darktable.... Do not overdo it. Shadows should be dark enough. If you don't like the result, study the light of the area and come back when it's most complimentary. I myself shoot in hard sunlight, but I don't aim for the magical , commercial , mainstream looking landscapes, because that's not what represents my place. Hope I've been clear. Thanks for the information! Well I guess the first step would be to get clean pictures. HDR will come after, I have time I don't need to over rush everything. So next step: clean camera sensor and buy a tripod

02-21-2021, 05:04 PM - 1 Like	#21
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,833	Originally posted by Tomlavl buy a tripod Buy a decent one... and it will be the only one you ever buy.

02-22-2021, 10:32 AM	#22
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by Michail_P HDR is praised by many as a good way to go with landscapes. I never go this way, because it's so easy to go wrong. I was of the same opinion before I used the HDR function in Lightroom. Works remarkably well.

02-22-2021, 12:45 PM - 1 Like	#23
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	OK< I gave you 10 minutes, showing some of the global changes I made although, you can't see the brush adjustments.