Help,I'm not clear

qdoan · 11-24-2008, 09:26 AM

I'd say those pics are pretty sharp for taking them hand-held. SR can really only take you so far, typically.. andy long distance widlife shots would require a tripod

Here's my quickfix of your 2 photos using lightroom:

Gooshin · 11-24-2008, 09:38 AM

you got a smudge on your sensor, left hand side just a bit above the centerline

also what are those little white squirly things also along the median?

Isaac314 · 11-24-2008, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by qdoan

I'd say those pics are pretty sharp for taking them hand-held. SR can really only take you so far, typically.. andy long distance widlife shots would require a tripod

Here's my quickfix of your 2 photos using lightroom:

I'd say the noise reduction is a bit heavy handed. It has lost some detail and tonal gradations.
An advantage of photoshop is that you can apply these filters more selectively (such as only on the background) with a wide range of layers options. There are special internet based discounts available for most kinds of software.

jaab · 11-25-2008, 03:12 AM

Thanks everyone, I have been out again today with my newly acquired knowledge. A long way to go but they are improving. Isaac your changes have created what we Aussies call a " Beauty Mate" Any more ideas are appreciated. cheers Jaab

**Eaglerapids** · 11-28-2008, 10:51 PM

The last pic is better but you're still not getting all the DA300/4 has to offer. To really pull detail out of the bird's feathers I have to use a tripod, bigger birds may be a bit easier but I have never come close handhoding my 300/4 to using it on a tripod, period. Maybe some people can but I can't. I'm still learning the best techniques to shoot telephotos myself. As others have said shutter speed is very important. I used to hate shooting anything other than iso 100, but longer lenses have changed that, I'll go to ISO400 in a heartbeat to gain shutter speed but you have to be very careful about underexposed shots because to lighten a high ISO shot in PP will greatly increase noise. Focus is critical, everything is critical, it has to all come together, it's hard but kinda like golf. You can hit 80 crappy shots but the one good one you get feels so good!
Practice practice practice

jaab · 12-06-2008, 04:57 AM

Hi
Hows this on tripod and cropped a bit
cheers Jaab

res3567 · 12-15-2008, 11:10 AM

How you do a 60 second workflow?

Originally posted by rparmar

X-man has it right. You need a tripod for that kind of shot. 1/250s at 300mm is pushing the limits, unless you have steadier hands than me. Not sure why it underexposed, but it did.

Did you do any post-processing? You will need to. It might help a lot. All digital images can benefit from PP and learning Photoshop or your tool of choice is as important as learning your camera, IMO.

Here's an insanely quick fix which is nowhere near as good as it would be if I had the original RAW file to work with -- noise and other artifacts are noticeable. Also changed the crop -- too bad the tail feathers are not complete. Took me about 60 seconds with my automated workflow.

Buddha Jones · 12-15-2008, 07:16 PM

Write your own actions in PS, I do, makes life a LOT easier, then retouch from there as needed.

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11-24-2008, 09:26 AM	#16
qdoan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 207	I'd say those pics are pretty sharp for taking them hand-held. SR can really only take you so far, typically.. andy long distance widlife shots would require a tripod Here's my quickfix of your 2 photos using lightroom:

11-24-2008, 09:38 AM	#17
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	you got a smudge on your sensor, left hand side just a bit above the centerline also what are those little white squirly things also along the median?

11-24-2008, 10:38 AM	#18
Isaac314 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: London Photos: Gallery Posts: 417	Originally posted by qdoan I'd say those pics are pretty sharp for taking them hand-held. SR can really only take you so far, typically.. andy long distance widlife shots would require a tripod Here's my quickfix of your 2 photos using lightroom: I'd say the noise reduction is a bit heavy handed. It has lost some detail and tonal gradations. An advantage of photoshop is that you can apply these filters more selectively (such as only on the background) with a wide range of layers options. There are special internet based discounts available for most kinds of software.

11-25-2008, 03:12 AM	#19
jaab Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: australia Posts: 39 Original Poster	Thanks everyone, I have been out again today with my newly acquired knowledge. A long way to go but they are improving. Isaac your changes have created what we Aussies call a " Beauty Mate" Any more ideas are appreciated. cheers Jaab

11-28-2008, 10:51 PM	#20
Eaglerapids Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Idaho,USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,619	The last pic is better but you're still not getting all the DA300/4 has to offer. To really pull detail out of the bird's feathers I have to use a tripod, bigger birds may be a bit easier but I have never come close handhoding my 300/4 to using it on a tripod, period. Maybe some people can but I can't. I'm still learning the best techniques to shoot telephotos myself. As others have said shutter speed is very important. I used to hate shooting anything other than iso 100, but longer lenses have changed that, I'll go to ISO400 in a heartbeat to gain shutter speed but you have to be very careful about underexposed shots because to lighten a high ISO shot in PP will greatly increase noise. Focus is critical, everything is critical, it has to all come together, it's hard but kinda like golf. You can hit 80 crappy shots but the one good one you get feels so good! Practice practice practice

12-06-2008, 04:57 AM	#21
jaab Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: australia Posts: 39 Original Poster	Hi Hows this on tripod and cropped a bit cheers Jaab

12-15-2008, 11:10 AM	#22
res3567 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Tx. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,876	How you do a 60 second workflow? Originally posted by rparmar X-man has it right. You need a tripod for that kind of shot. 1/250s at 300mm is pushing the limits, unless you have steadier hands than me. Not sure why it underexposed, but it did. Did you do any post-processing? You will need to. It might help a lot. All digital images can benefit from PP and learning Photoshop or your tool of choice is as important as learning your camera, IMO. Here's an insanely quick fix which is nowhere near as good as it would be if I had the original RAW file to work with -- noise and other artifacts are noticeable. Also changed the crop -- too bad the tail feathers are not complete. Took me about 60 seconds with my automated workflow.

12-15-2008, 07:16 PM	#23
Buddha Jones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,587	Write your own actions in PS, I do, makes life a LOT easier, then retouch from there as needed.