Landscape Arrival of Winter

bertwert · 11-08-2021, 10:15 AM - **1 Like**

Not a terribly interesting photo, but all thoughts are welcome here...

**PJ1** · 11-08-2021, 02:22 PM

I wouldn't call it uninteresting. I can see this is progressing towards full snow cover (time to pack away the bear spray). Post another one when you have full coverage. It is a novelty for me.

StiffLegged · 11-08-2021, 04:06 PM

Ask yourself what’s the brightest part of that photo, because that’s where your eye tends to go. Which is why I’d suggest burning the sky down a little to keep the eye looking around the middle at what’s of interest.

bertwert · 11-09-2021, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by PJ1

I wouldn't call it uninteresting. I can see this is progressing towards full snow cover (time to pack away the bear spray). Post another one when you have full coverage. It is a novelty for me.

Thanks Pete, we had a dusting the day before, but woke up to about 2-3" yesterday. I don't think this snow will stick, it's still early, but we'll see. I'll certainly share some shots once winter is truly here.

Originally posted by StiffLegged

Ask yourself what’s the brightest part of that photo, because that’s where your eye tends to go. Which is why I’d suggest burning the sky down a little to keep the eye looking around the middle at what’s of interest.

Ah thanks! That is not something I considered* at all, but it makes perfect sense.

*to be honest, I don't really consider anything in post processing, I just mess around

**angkymac** · 11-09-2021, 09:53 AM

Agree with what StiffLegged said.

It's actually a pretty interesting image to me as it is. But maybe that is due to my interest in the scene itself.
Yet, if you thought it uninteresting, that slight bit of variation in dark and light--especially the clouds--will enhance it.
A bit of enhanced contrast in the clouds coupled with some increased contrast (or slight darkening) in the clump of deciduous trees (poplars?} just left of center.
Maybe a tiny bit of darkening with contrast along the ridges of taller grasses that run right-left in "ridges" across the image.
I like the shot, though.
Angky.

**ToddK** · 11-10-2021, 06:52 AM

I like this image, with good contrast, and a good depiction of early winter. I would consider cropping out some of the sky, maybe change to a 16:9 aspect ratio. I just scrolled your photo up on my screen and to me it looks better with less sky.

normhead · 11-10-2021, 07:00 AM

I think you probably needed to walk out another 40 meters or so, or use a longer lens.

bertwert · 11-11-2021, 07:47 AM

Originally posted by angkymac

Agree with what StiffLegged said.

It's actually a pretty interesting image to me as it is. But maybe that is due to my interest in the scene itself.
Yet, if you thought it uninteresting, that slight bit of variation in dark and light--especially the clouds--will enhance it.
A bit of enhanced contrast in the clouds coupled with some increased contrast (or slight darkening) in the clump of deciduous trees (poplars?} just left of center.
Maybe a tiny bit of darkening with contrast along the ridges of taller grasses that run right-left in "ridges" across the image.
I like the shot, though.
Angky.

Thanks for the pointers

Originally posted by ToddK

I like this image, with good contrast, and a good depiction of early winter. I would consider cropping out some of the sky, maybe change to a 16:9 aspect ratio. I just scrolled your photo up on my screen and to me it looks better with less sky.

Interesting! I purposefully put more sky and cropped to 4:3, I felt like trying to show the more grey/dull sky, but I see where you are going

Originally posted by normhead

I think you probably needed to walk out another 40 meters or so, or use a longer lens.

I tried a few different spots fore and aft, and settled here, but I could see that working too

**vijaykishan** · 11-12-2021, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by ToddK

I like this image, with good contrast, and a good depiction of early winter. I would consider cropping out some of the sky, maybe change to a 16:9 aspect ratio. I just scrolled your photo up on my screen and to me it looks better with less sky.

This I agree. The decision to render this image in B&W is correct. The texture is very good and adds to the overall image.

bertwert · 11-14-2021, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by vijaykishan

This I agree. The decision to render this image in B&W is correct. The texture is very good and adds to the overall image.

Thank you - looking again now with the less sky and wider ratio, I'm seeing it. Wasn't much colour there to begin with before B&W

**Serkevan** · 11-14-2021, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by bertwert

Thank you - looking again now with the less sky and wider ratio, I'm seeing it. Wasn't much colour there to begin with before B&W

And here I was thinking about suggesting a touch of cropping at the bottom (with a resulting wider ratio, as well). It somehow feels like there's a bit too much foreground, but otherwise I wouldn't change much. I like the sorta low contrast between the gray sky and the snow.

bertwert · 11-15-2021, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

And here I was thinking about suggesting a touch of cropping at the bottom (with a resulting wider ratio, as well). It somehow feels like there's a bit too much foreground, but otherwise I wouldn't change much. I like the sorta low contrast between the gray sky and the snow.

Yeah this was the best balance I could come to with editing, in my mind. As far as cropping, guess I better take some off the top and the bottom... make a fake pano

**Serkevan** · 11-15-2021, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by bertwert

make a fake pano

Hey, as long as it looks good, no one's gonna worry about what you left out

normhead · 11-15-2021, 08:39 AM

My "fake panos" done with my K-1 are larger than the real panos I used to take with my 6 MP sensors or even some 12 MP panos. High resolution has made an awful lot of compiling panos obsolete.

11-08-2021, 10:15 AM - 1 Like	#1
bertwert Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,161	Arrival of Winter Lens: HD DA 21 Ltd Camera: KP Photo Location: Golden, BC ISO: 100 Shutter Speed: 1/8s Aperture: F11 Not a terribly interesting photo, but all thoughts are welcome here...

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11-08-2021, 02:22 PM	#2
PJ1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mosquito Creek, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,169	I wouldn't call it uninteresting. I can see this is progressing towards full snow cover (time to pack away the bear spray). Post another one when you have full coverage. It is a novelty for me.

11-08-2021, 04:06 PM	#3
StiffLegged Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,519	Ask yourself what’s the brightest part of that photo, because that’s where your eye tends to go. Which is why I’d suggest burning the sky down a little to keep the eye looking around the middle at what’s of interest.

11-09-2021, 06:42 AM	#4
bertwert Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,161 Original Poster	Originally posted by PJ1 I wouldn't call it uninteresting. I can see this is progressing towards full snow cover (time to pack away the bear spray). Post another one when you have full coverage. It is a novelty for me. Thanks Pete, we had a dusting the day before, but woke up to about 2-3" yesterday. I don't think this snow will stick, it's still early, but we'll see. I'll certainly share some shots once winter is truly here. Originally posted by StiffLegged Ask yourself what’s the brightest part of that photo, because that’s where your eye tends to go. Which is why I’d suggest burning the sky down a little to keep the eye looking around the middle at what’s of interest. Ah thanks! That is not something I considered* at all, but it makes perfect sense. *to be honest, I don't really consider anything in post processing, I just mess around

11-09-2021, 09:53 AM	#5
angkymac Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 6,002	Agree with what StiffLegged said. It's actually a pretty interesting image to me as it is. But maybe that is due to my interest in the scene itself. Yet, if you thought it uninteresting, that slight bit of variation in dark and light--especially the clouds--will enhance it. A bit of enhanced contrast in the clouds coupled with some increased contrast (or slight darkening) in the clump of deciduous trees (poplars?} just left of center. Maybe a tiny bit of darkening with contrast along the ridges of taller grasses that run right-left in "ridges" across the image. I like the shot, though. Angky.

11-10-2021, 06:52 AM	#6
ToddK Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Texas Hill Country Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,502	I like this image, with good contrast, and a good depiction of early winter. I would consider cropping out some of the sky, maybe change to a 16:9 aspect ratio. I just scrolled your photo up on my screen and to me it looks better with less sky.

11-10-2021, 07:00 AM	#7
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,219	I think you probably needed to walk out another 40 meters or so, or use a longer lens.

11-11-2021, 07:47 AM	#8
bertwert Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,161 Original Poster	Originally posted by angkymac Agree with what StiffLegged said. It's actually a pretty interesting image to me as it is. But maybe that is due to my interest in the scene itself. Yet, if you thought it uninteresting, that slight bit of variation in dark and light--especially the clouds--will enhance it. A bit of enhanced contrast in the clouds coupled with some increased contrast (or slight darkening) in the clump of deciduous trees (poplars?} just left of center. Maybe a tiny bit of darkening with contrast along the ridges of taller grasses that run right-left in "ridges" across the image. I like the shot, though. Angky. Thanks for the pointers Originally posted by ToddK I like this image, with good contrast, and a good depiction of early winter. I would consider cropping out some of the sky, maybe change to a 16:9 aspect ratio. I just scrolled your photo up on my screen and to me it looks better with less sky. Interesting! I purposefully put more sky and cropped to 4:3, I felt like trying to show the more grey/dull sky, but I see where you are going Originally posted by normhead I think you probably needed to walk out another 40 meters or so, or use a longer lens. I tried a few different spots fore and aft, and settled here, but I could see that working too

11-12-2021, 03:33 PM	#9
vijaykishan Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2021 Photos: Gallery Posts: 953	Originally posted by ToddK I like this image, with good contrast, and a good depiction of early winter. I would consider cropping out some of the sky, maybe change to a 16:9 aspect ratio. I just scrolled your photo up on my screen and to me it looks better with less sky. This I agree. The decision to render this image in B&W is correct. The texture is very good and adds to the overall image.

11-14-2021, 01:11 PM	#10
bertwert Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,161 Original Poster	Originally posted by vijaykishan This I agree. The decision to render this image in B&W is correct. The texture is very good and adds to the overall image. Thank you - looking again now with the less sky and wider ratio, I'm seeing it. Wasn't much colour there to begin with before B&W

11-14-2021, 06:59 PM	#11
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,743	Originally posted by bertwert Thank you - looking again now with the less sky and wider ratio, I'm seeing it. Wasn't much colour there to begin with before B&W And here I was thinking about suggesting a touch of cropping at the bottom (with a resulting wider ratio, as well). It somehow feels like there's a bit too much foreground, but otherwise I wouldn't change much. I like the sorta low contrast between the gray sky and the snow.

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11-15-2021, 07:28 AM	#12
bertwert Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 15,161 Original Poster	Originally posted by Serkevan And here I was thinking about suggesting a touch of cropping at the bottom (with a resulting wider ratio, as well). It somehow feels like there's a bit too much foreground, but otherwise I wouldn't change much. I like the sorta low contrast between the gray sky and the snow. Yeah this was the best balance I could come to with editing, in my mind. As far as cropping, guess I better take some off the top and the bottom... make a fake pano

11-15-2021, 08:10 AM	#13
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,743	Originally posted by bertwert make a fake pano Hey, as long as it looks good, no one's gonna worry about what you left out

11-15-2021, 08:39 AM	#14
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,219	My "fake panos" done with my K-1 are larger than the real panos I used to take with my 6 MP sensors or even some 12 MP panos. High resolution has made an awful lot of compiling panos obsolete.