Landscape Stability

WileyB · 11-25-2021, 07:03 PM

I like the feeling here, but I don't want to say too much about what I was thinking or seeing because I want to see what this conveys to you.

What comes across to you? How could I have framed, exposed, or processed differently to tell more strongly the story that you saw?

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VictorDA · 11-26-2021, 03:22 AM - **1 Like**

Well, I'm intrigued. The picture does have an appeal but might be liittle "incomplete" or "empty" in the top part.
Perhaps a 2/3 or wider crop might work better ?
Or, if that is an option, I would be interested to see the same shot taken from closer to the ground

**Fdooch** · 11-26-2021, 04:55 AM - **2 Likes**

It seems like nothing special, but I like it

WileyB · 11-26-2021, 10:08 AM

Here's a Flickr album with more context, both from the shot and the surroundings.

For me it's really striking, the stark desert emptiness, with all these transport media coming together and crossing in this one random spot: dirt roads, paved highway, and power lines shooting off in all directions.

I left more sky in the crop above because I wanted to emphasize that empty, nearly purposeful loneliness. Dunno if it worked or not :-D

5ks · 11-26-2021, 10:55 AM - **1 Like**

I like the kind-of-simplicity of the scene. I would have - most probaly - cropped out most of the blue sky, so the image would be 3 : 2 or even wider. Not bad this way either.

WileyB · 11-26-2021, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by 5ks

I like the kind-of-simplicity of the scene. I would have - most probaly - cropped out most of the blue sky, so the image would be 3 : 2 or even wider. Not bad this way either.

I like that i can test the vertical crop here just by slowly scrolling the browser down :-D :-D

BROO · 11-26-2021, 12:13 PM

I would crop some out of the foreground. ATM the focal point of the image is dead middle. Drop it down towards the 1/3 from horizontal.

WileyB · 11-26-2021, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by BROO

I would crop some out of the foreground. ATM the focal point of the image is dead middle. Drop it down towards the 1/3 from horizontal.

Thank you for the comment, and your feeling of the framing!

For me, the 'stability' or permanence of those powerlines as a rooted part of the bare landscape is part of what I was trying to catch.

I think centering that element underlines the stability, and I think cutting out some sky would leave it 'rooted'...but chopping out too much foreground, in my impression, makes it somehow feel more precarious because there is less landscape that it is tied to.

**angkymac** · 11-26-2021, 11:05 PM

I looked long at the image before reading the comments. I decided the wide expanse of sky at the top and the wide foreground of short sage brush makes for a stark "surprise" of these intensely bold and simple poles and cross-bars just suddenly standing there so imposingly right in the middle of the desert.
Like it.
Angky.

WileyB · 11-27-2021, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by angkymac

I looked long at the image before reading the comments. I decided the wide expanse of sky at the top and the wide foreground of short sage brush makes for a stark "surprise" of these intensely bold and simple poles and cross-bars just suddenly standing there so imposingly right in the middle of the desert.
Like it.
Angky.

Thank you for taking the time to form, and share, your opinion!

maucard · 11-27-2021, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by WileyB

I like the feeling here, but I don't want to say too much about what I was thinking or seeing because I want to see what this conveys to you.

What comes across to you? How could I have framed, exposed, or processed differently to tell more strongly the story that you saw?

Hi Wiley, thank you for this interesting post. What is the effect of a modern infrastructure in a natural landscape? Sometimes, the effect can be devastating, but this appears to be not the case. It is surprising to see theese infrastructures in a desert: but they appear to be well inserted in the landscape, not properly extraneous. Concerning your photo, and considering the effect that you want to convey, I believe that it is very well done and effective, but I perhaps a more wide angle perspective could allow to increase the effect. Indeed, in your flickr album I have found another shot of the same subject which exactly has these more wide angle characteristics (the one in which three electric towers are visible). Best regards, Maurizio .

WileyB · 11-27-2021, 05:35 PM

Hi Maurizio,
Thank you for taking the time to consider, and to reply.
You’re right, I think different framing and even different directions at this location really change the balance shown in the picture, between landscape and infrastructure!
Wiley

vijaykishan · 12-01-2021, 08:02 AM - **1 Like**

If this were to be on Rorschach's book or the picture in the abstract section, one would ponder on the following

- Old and new powers - on the lines of - transfer of power under the electric blue sky - etc (I cant count the number of puns in that LOL)

- Towers of old and modern era

The sky could be cropped a bit as well

WileyB · 12-01-2021, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by vijaykishan

The sky could be cropped a bit as well

In the end, I think that's right. Cropping the blue down just a bit would probably strengthen the image...maybe so the second power cable from the top crosses out of frame near the upper left corner?

vijaykishan · 12-02-2021, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by WileyB

In the end, I think that's right. Cropping the blue down just a bit would probably strengthen the image...maybe so the second power cable from the top crosses out of frame near the upper left corner?

Exactamo ! if you can, maybe try to increase the contrast between the cables and the sky (I really dont know how to ahieve that BTW, sorry) . All the best.

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11-26-2021, 03:22 AM - 1 Like	#2
VictorDA Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lyon area, France Posts: 718	Well, I'm intrigued. The picture does have an appeal but might be liittle "incomplete" or "empty" in the top part. Perhaps a 2/3 or wider crop might work better ? Or, if that is an option, I would be interested to see the same shot taken from closer to the ground

11-26-2021, 04:55 AM - 2 Likes	#3
Fdooch Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Moscow Photos: Albums Posts: 760	It seems like nothing special, but I like it

11-26-2021, 10:08 AM	#4
WileyB Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 441 Original Poster	Here's a Flickr album with more context, both from the shot and the surroundings. For me it's really striking, the stark desert emptiness, with all these transport media coming together and crossing in this one random spot: dirt roads, paved highway, and power lines shooting off in all directions. I left more sky in the crop above because I wanted to emphasize that empty, nearly purposeful loneliness. Dunno if it worked or not :-D

11-26-2021, 10:55 AM - 1 Like	#5
5ks Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 681	I like the kind-of-simplicity of the scene. I would have - most probaly - cropped out most of the blue sky, so the image would be 3 : 2 or even wider. Not bad this way either.

11-26-2021, 11:54 AM	#6
WileyB Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 441 Original Poster	Originally posted by 5ks I like the kind-of-simplicity of the scene. I would have - most probaly - cropped out most of the blue sky, so the image would be 3 : 2 or even wider. Not bad this way either. I like that i can test the vertical crop here just by slowly scrolling the browser down :-D :-D

11-26-2021, 12:13 PM	#7
BROO Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 655	I would crop some out of the foreground. ATM the focal point of the image is dead middle. Drop it down towards the 1/3 from horizontal.

11-26-2021, 06:36 PM	#8
WileyB Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 441 Original Poster	Originally posted by BROO I would crop some out of the foreground. ATM the focal point of the image is dead middle. Drop it down towards the 1/3 from horizontal. Thank you for the comment, and your feeling of the framing! For me, the 'stability' or permanence of those powerlines as a rooted part of the bare landscape is part of what I was trying to catch. I think centering that element underlines the stability, and I think cutting out some sky would leave it 'rooted'...but chopping out too much foreground, in my impression, makes it somehow feel more precarious because there is less landscape that it is tied to.

11-26-2021, 11:05 PM	#9
angkymac Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 8,942	I looked long at the image before reading the comments. I decided the wide expanse of sky at the top and the wide foreground of short sage brush makes for a stark "surprise" of these intensely bold and simple poles and cross-bars just suddenly standing there so imposingly right in the middle of the desert. Like it. Angky.

11-27-2021, 12:14 AM	#10
WileyB Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 441 Original Poster	Originally posted by angkymac I looked long at the image before reading the comments. I decided the wide expanse of sky at the top and the wide foreground of short sage brush makes for a stark "surprise" of these intensely bold and simple poles and cross-bars just suddenly standing there so imposingly right in the middle of the desert. Like it. Angky. Thank you for taking the time to form, and share, your opinion!

11-27-2021, 02:14 PM	#11
maucard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Photos: Gallery Posts: 155	Originally posted by WileyB I like the feeling here, but I don't want to say too much about what I was thinking or seeing because I want to see what this conveys to you. What comes across to you? How could I have framed, exposed, or processed differently to tell more strongly the story that you saw? Hi Wiley, thank you for this interesting post. What is the effect of a modern infrastructure in a natural landscape? Sometimes, the effect can be devastating, but this appears to be not the case. It is surprising to see theese infrastructures in a desert: but they appear to be well inserted in the landscape, not properly extraneous. Concerning your photo, and considering the effect that you want to convey, I believe that it is very well done and effective, but I perhaps a more wide angle perspective could allow to increase the effect. Indeed, in your flickr album I have found another shot of the same subject which exactly has these more wide angle characteristics (the one in which three electric towers are visible). Best regards, Maurizio .

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11-27-2021, 05:35 PM	#12
WileyB Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 441 Original Poster	Hi Maurizio, Thank you for taking the time to consider, and to reply. You’re right, I think different framing and even different directions at this location really change the balance shown in the picture, between landscape and infrastructure! Wiley

12-01-2021, 08:02 AM - 1 Like	#13
vijaykishan Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2021 Photos: Gallery Posts: 999	If this were to be on Rorschach's book or the picture in the abstract section, one would ponder on the following - Old and new powers - on the lines of - transfer of power under the electric blue sky - etc (I cant count the number of puns in that LOL) - Towers of old and modern era The sky could be cropped a bit as well

12-01-2021, 11:32 AM	#14
WileyB Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Mexico Photos: Albums Posts: 441 Original Poster	Originally posted by vijaykishan The sky could be cropped a bit as well In the end, I think that's right. Cropping the blue down just a bit would probably strengthen the image...maybe so the second power cable from the top crosses out of frame near the upper left corner?

12-02-2021, 01:55 AM	#15
vijaykishan Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2021 Photos: Gallery Posts: 999	Originally posted by WileyB In the end, I think that's right. Cropping the blue down just a bit would probably strengthen the image...maybe so the second power cable from the top crosses out of frame near the upper left corner? Exactamo ! if you can, maybe try to increase the contrast between the cables and the sky (I really dont know how to ahieve that BTW, sorry) . All the best.