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SuperAkuma · 06-03-2009, 03:26 PM

I submitted two image to PPG last week. One of them got accepted and the other one got declined. Since PPG does not tell you why it was declined I just want some feedbacks on the image and give a possible reason why it was declined. Also if you where to shoot this image, what would you change about it or how can I improve this image.

Thanks,

Dom · 06-03-2009, 03:41 PM

Looks a bit flat and it's have put the jet-ski on the 45 diagonal from the top-left. You probably could have used a small aperture for a bit more DOF.The blue haze isn't helping either. Apart from all the I like it, I like the fact you've shot it in portrait.

Venturi · 06-03-2009, 04:01 PM

I'm no expert on PPG other than being rejected: I'm 0:7.

There's too much negative space I feel - it diminishes the appearance of distance between the ski and the yacht. If you cropped to a 5x4 aspect with the jetski in the lower left quadrant and it becomes better for me immediately. It's very monochromatic (mostly blue) and not very contrasty except for the negative space that I feel doesn't belong.

I have no idea if it would have had any affect on the outcome, but here's an alternate view. Pardon my indulgance and I'll happily remove if you wish.

MRRiley · 06-03-2009, 04:20 PM

Sai,

To be honest, its a fine photograph, but it lacks OMPH. As the others have said, its a bit flat, but not objectionably so by my estimation. However, it just doesn't have the visual impact of what I expect to see in the PPG. Look to the photos you already have in the gallery and you'll see what I mean.

Best wishes and congratulations on your latest approval.

Mike

axl · 06-03-2009, 04:36 PM

I agree with the crop that Venturi made, but even after it's still not OMG shot...

K-9 · 06-03-2009, 08:36 PM

Immediately upon scrolling down this thread, all that wasted space at the bottom was far too evident. All that dark water just leads to nowhere in the composition. The other thing is the shot screams filter. It's way too hazy in the background and the sky is dull. Try a circular polarizer. The subjects aren't very powerful, and the boat in the background is just too far away.

SuperAkuma · 06-03-2009, 08:43 PM

Thanks for the comment everyone. This was a cropped image and I left the open space on purpose. I guess that open was did not work well in this photo.

AlphaGAK20D · 06-04-2009, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by axl

I agree with the crop that Venturi made, but even after it's still not OMG shot...

x2 - first thing I noticed (and didn't agree with) was all of the foreground/negative space...

kyteflyer · 06-06-2009, 03:56 AM

One of the things I have been noticing as I have been voting, is the lack of focus in some images...

SuperAkuma... when I looked at your shot just now, I was left wondering whether it was the jetski, or the lake + boat. I look for clarity and focus first I guess (focus in this case meaning a definite subject for the pic, as opposed to the camera focus) and then at the more technical stuff (she said, being an almost total n00b to this stuff :-/) tbh, I wouldnt take this shot at all... it would be jetski on closeup, or even just a part of it, OR the yacht, lake/distant mountains... but not all in the same shot.

Am I even making sense?

Going to bed now, ni'ni'

06-03-2009, 03:26 PM	#1
SuperAkuma Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 445	Let's go (declined PPG image) Lens: 63mm Camera: Pentax K20D ISO: 100 Shutter Speed: 1/500s Aperture: F8 I submitted two image to PPG last week. One of them got accepted and the other one got declined. Since PPG does not tell you why it was declined I just want some feedbacks on the image and give a possible reason why it was declined. Also if you where to shoot this image, what would you change about it or how can I improve this image. Thanks,

06-03-2009, 04:01 PM	#3
Venturi Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,636	I'm no expert on PPG other than being rejected: I'm 0:7. There's too much negative space I feel - it diminishes the appearance of distance between the ski and the yacht. If you cropped to a 5x4 aspect with the jetski in the lower left quadrant and it becomes better for me immediately. It's very monochromatic (mostly blue) and not very contrasty except for the negative space that I feel doesn't belong. I have no idea if it would have had any affect on the outcome, but here's an alternate view. Pardon my indulgance and I'll happily remove if you wish. Last edited by Venturi; 05-07-2011 at 11:08 PM.

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06-03-2009, 03:41 PM	#2
Dom Guest	Looks a bit flat and it's have put the jet-ski on the 45 diagonal from the top-left. You probably could have used a small aperture for a bit more DOF.The blue haze isn't helping either. Apart from all the I like it, I like the fact you've shot it in portrait.

06-03-2009, 04:20 PM	#4
MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275	Sai, To be honest, its a fine photograph, but it lacks OMPH. As the others have said, its a bit flat, but not objectionably so by my estimation. However, it just doesn't have the visual impact of what I expect to see in the PPG. Look to the photos you already have in the gallery and you'll see what I mean. Best wishes and congratulations on your latest approval. Mike

06-03-2009, 04:36 PM	#5
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	I agree with the crop that Venturi made, but even after it's still not OMG shot...

06-03-2009, 08:36 PM	#6
K-9 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,971	Immediately upon scrolling down this thread, all that wasted space at the bottom was far too evident. All that dark water just leads to nowhere in the composition. The other thing is the shot screams filter. It's way too hazy in the background and the sky is dull. Try a circular polarizer. The subjects aren't very powerful, and the boat in the background is just too far away.

06-03-2009, 08:43 PM	#7
SuperAkuma Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 445 Original Poster	Thanks for the comment everyone. This was a cropped image and I left the open space on purpose. I guess that open was did not work well in this photo.

06-04-2009, 10:19 AM	#8
AlphaGAK20D Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Alpharetta, GA Photos: Gallery Posts: 302	Originally posted by axl I agree with the crop that Venturi made, but even after it's still not OMG shot... x2 - first thing I noticed (and didn't agree with) was all of the foreground/negative space...

06-06-2009, 03:56 AM	#9
kyteflyer Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Newcastle, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,444	One of the things I have been noticing as I have been voting, is the lack of focus in some images... SuperAkuma... when I looked at your shot just now, I was left wondering whether it was the jetski, or the lake + boat. I look for clarity and focus first I guess (focus in this case meaning a definite subject for the pic, as opposed to the camera focus) and then at the more technical stuff (she said, being an almost total n00b to this stuff :-/) tbh, I wouldnt take this shot at all... it would be jetski on closeup, or even just a part of it, OR the yacht, lake/distant mountains... but not all in the same shot. Am I even making sense? Going to bed now, ni'ni'

Let's go (declined PPG image)

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