Misc Does this work?

joeyc · 10-09-2009, 01:16 AM

Hello - I'm not usually one to post my images, but I am not sure what to make of this image. I so want it to work.

As I was sitting in a park during lunch the other day (in a Philadelphia), I was impressed with the way the sun was hitting the bricks and the leaves that had blown up against the picket fence. I 'saw' this image in black and white as I sat there, but I feel that I did not do the moment justice. Does this come across as 'ordinary' or 'blah'?

Thanks!

**Ash** · 10-09-2009, 01:28 AM

It's OK - the B&W rendition has brought it out very well.
Subject matter, not bad - not the most interesting either.
If the top of the fence were also in the frame it probably would have come out more appealing.
But well done with the exposure and PP.

Svendinvenn · 10-09-2009, 05:00 AM

That was probably a very hard moment to capture, and I suspect you didn't capture all of it? I do think it's a nice photo, though

Did you play around whith bw-settings to see what worked the best?

geezer52 · 10-09-2009, 08:04 AM

Just for fun try cropping most of the top off so roughly about the bottom third of the picture is the brick of the pavement, the middle third is the leaves, and the top third is the picket fence. if you can, tone down the highlights a bit and crank up the contrast. I think that would make for an intersting contrast of textures. As I say, just for fun

joeyc · 10-09-2009, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Ash

It's OK - the B&W rendition has brought it out very well.
Subject matter, not bad - not the most interesting either.
If the top of the fence were also in the frame it probably would have come out more appealing.
But well done with the exposure and PP.

Thanks for the nice reply. I actually have about 5 'different perspectives on this scene. Maybe I need to explore one of the shots that does indeed show the top of the fence.

joeyc · 10-09-2009, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by Svendinvenn

That was probably a very hard moment to capture, and I suspect you didn't capture all of it? I do think it's a nice photo, though

Did you play around whith bw-settings to see what worked the best?

I appreciate the comment. As I mentioned to Ash, I do have some other perspectives that I may need to investigate. Perhaps the one above wasn't the best for the shot. The B&W settings were my typical routine - desaturate in Lightroom, adjust black levels, brightness, and play around with curves a tad. On occasion I will export to Lightzone for some b&w's, but didn't see a need to for this one.

joeyc · 10-09-2009, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by geezer52

Just for fun try cropping most of the top off so roughly about the bottom third of the picture is the brick of the pavement, the middle third is the leaves, and the top third is the picket fence. if you can, tone down the highlights a bit and crank up the contrast. I think that would make for an intersting contrast of textures. As I say, just for fun

Dean,

Thanks for looking and sharing some ideas. I do like the example you sent me via PM. It works. And it's funny you mention doing that because I do have some original shots with that perspective. What's pretty neat is that you and Ash had very different ideas on the scene, but I think both could work. I hope to have a little time this weekend to try them both out.

Joe

**tmacdon** · 10-09-2009, 04:54 PM

I too like it, but think it would have been better (less closed) with the fence top visible. Now it seems a bit cramped.

FHPhotographer · 10-10-2009, 09:14 PM

Agree with Ash on the good B&W work, but instead of going for more (the top of the fence) how about more cropping for the less-is-more approach for? I'm thinking the lower right corner, using the brick pattern, the light on the ivy and just a bit of the vertical fence, example by PM,
Brian

joeyc · 10-11-2009, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by tmacdon

I too like it, but think it would have been better (less closed) with the fence top visible. Now it seems a bit cramped.

I appreciate the response. After looking through my images, it seems that I don't have a suitable image with the entire fence visible. I do have another take coming in the reply.

joeyc · 10-11-2009, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by FHPhotographer

Agree with Ash on the good B&W work, but instead of going for more (the top of the fence) how about more cropping for the less-is-more approach for? I'm thinking the lower right corner, using the brick pattern, the light on the ivy and just a bit of the vertical fence, example by PM,
Brian

Thanks Brian. PM replied to and I will post an example in my next reply. I appreciate the effort in your response and your take via PM.

Joe

joeyc · 10-11-2009, 11:27 AM

This was a different shot entirely. Spent some time reviewing the suggestions and examples from the forum members (thank you). This is what I came up with. Any better, worse?

CWyatt · 10-11-2009, 01:55 PM

For me, the focus of the image should be on the contrast between the one ray of angles light across the very straight posts. The leaves just add some texture

joeyc · 10-11-2009, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by CWyatt

For me, the focus of the image should be on the contrast between the one ray of angles light across the very straight posts. The leaves just add some texture

That is a good point. That was one of the reasons I chose the first image. Through all the suggestions and ideas, I had forgotten that was one aspect which caught my eye.

10-09-2009, 01:16 AM	#1
joeyc Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 478	Does this work? Lens: 70mm (105mm) Camera: K200D ISO: 160 Shutter Speed: 1/125s Aperture: F4.5 Hello - I'm not usually one to post my images, but I am not sure what to make of this image. I so want it to work. As I was sitting in a park during lunch the other day (in a Philadelphia), I was impressed with the way the sun was hitting the bricks and the leaves that had blown up against the picket fence. I 'saw' this image in black and white as I sat there, but I feel that I did not do the moment justice. Does this come across as 'ordinary' or 'blah'? Thanks!

10-11-2009, 11:27 AM	#12
joeyc Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 478 Original Poster	2nd attempt This was a different shot entirely. Spent some time reviewing the suggestions and examples from the forum members (thank you). This is what I came up with. Any better, worse?

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10-09-2009, 01:28 AM	#2
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	It's OK - the B&W rendition has brought it out very well. Subject matter, not bad - not the most interesting either. If the top of the fence were also in the frame it probably would have come out more appealing. But well done with the exposure and PP.

10-09-2009, 05:00 AM	#3
Svendinvenn Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 59	That was probably a very hard moment to capture, and I suspect you didn't capture all of it? I do think it's a nice photo, though Did you play around whith bw-settings to see what worked the best?

10-09-2009, 08:04 AM	#4
geezer52 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: High Desert, California Photos: Gallery Posts: 231	Just for fun try cropping most of the top off so roughly about the bottom third of the picture is the brick of the pavement, the middle third is the leaves, and the top third is the picket fence. if you can, tone down the highlights a bit and crank up the contrast. I think that would make for an intersting contrast of textures. As I say, just for fun

10-09-2009, 04:49 PM	#5
joeyc Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 478 Original Poster	Originally posted by Ash It's OK - the B&W rendition has brought it out very well. Subject matter, not bad - not the most interesting either. If the top of the fence were also in the frame it probably would have come out more appealing. But well done with the exposure and PP. Thanks for the nice reply. I actually have about 5 'different perspectives on this scene. Maybe I need to explore one of the shots that does indeed show the top of the fence.

10-09-2009, 04:51 PM	#6
joeyc Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 478 Original Poster	Originally posted by Svendinvenn That was probably a very hard moment to capture, and I suspect you didn't capture all of it? I do think it's a nice photo, though Did you play around whith bw-settings to see what worked the best? I appreciate the comment. As I mentioned to Ash, I do have some other perspectives that I may need to investigate. Perhaps the one above wasn't the best for the shot. The B&W settings were my typical routine - desaturate in Lightroom, adjust black levels, brightness, and play around with curves a tad. On occasion I will export to Lightzone for some b&w's, but didn't see a need to for this one.

10-09-2009, 04:53 PM	#7
joeyc Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 478 Original Poster	Originally posted by geezer52 Just for fun try cropping most of the top off so roughly about the bottom third of the picture is the brick of the pavement, the middle third is the leaves, and the top third is the picket fence. if you can, tone down the highlights a bit and crank up the contrast. I think that would make for an intersting contrast of textures. As I say, just for fun Dean, Thanks for looking and sharing some ideas. I do like the example you sent me via PM. It works. And it's funny you mention doing that because I do have some original shots with that perspective. What's pretty neat is that you and Ash had very different ideas on the scene, but I think both could work. I hope to have a little time this weekend to try them both out. Joe

10-09-2009, 04:54 PM	#8
tmacdon Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 143	I too like it, but think it would have been better (less closed) with the fence top visible. Now it seems a bit cramped.

10-10-2009, 09:14 PM	#9
FHPhotographer Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Fountain Hills, AZ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,297	Agree with Ash on the good B&W work, but instead of going for more (the top of the fence) how about more cropping for the less-is-more approach for? I'm thinking the lower right corner, using the brick pattern, the light on the ivy and just a bit of the vertical fence, example by PM, Brian

10-11-2009, 11:23 AM	#10
joeyc Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 478 Original Poster	Originally posted by tmacdon I too like it, but think it would have been better (less closed) with the fence top visible. Now it seems a bit cramped. I appreciate the response. After looking through my images, it seems that I don't have a suitable image with the entire fence visible. I do have another take coming in the reply.

10-11-2009, 11:24 AM	#11
joeyc Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 478 Original Poster	Originally posted by FHPhotographer Agree with Ash on the good B&W work, but instead of going for more (the top of the fence) how about more cropping for the less-is-more approach for? I'm thinking the lower right corner, using the brick pattern, the light on the ivy and just a bit of the vertical fence, example by PM, Brian Thanks Brian. PM replied to and I will post an example in my next reply. I appreciate the effort in your response and your take via PM. Joe

10-11-2009, 01:55 PM	#13
CWyatt Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,291	For me, the focus of the image should be on the contrast between the one ray of angles light across the very straight posts. The leaves just add some texture

10-11-2009, 03:24 PM	#14
joeyc Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 478 Original Poster	Originally posted by CWyatt For me, the focus of the image should be on the contrast between the one ray of angles light across the very straight posts. The leaves just add some texture That is a good point. That was one of the reasons I chose the first image. Through all the suggestions and ideas, I had forgotten that was one aspect which caught my eye.