Black & White The ok Store

cb750r · 03-12-2010, 06:43 PM

I havent done a lot of BW conversions I posted a series in the photo sharing and didn't generate any comments, so I am posting here to get some feedback on your thoughts Thanks!

Damn Brit · 03-12-2010, 10:27 PM

On the conversion or the whole package?

cb750r · 03-13-2010, 12:26 PM

The whole package, is good, before you all blast me for not leveling my frame, I do honestly believe this structure lacked a single straight line in it...

Damn Brit · 03-13-2010, 01:21 PM

No I won't blast you for that but it wouldn't hurt to get one of the horizontals straight, either the line above or the one below the sign, it should help.
I will blast you for the perspective though.

Shooting down on it just diminishes the building so, unless you're going for the toytown look, I think that was a mistake. It also has the consequence of giving you too much sky.
By the focal length you entered I assume you were using the kit lens. So why not shoot from the wide end? You could get up much closer and shoot up, that would make the building loom much larger and blot out the sky. That would also probably emphasise all those off kilter lines making it look even more interesting.
I'll tell you what I do like, those four windows with the 'Y' shaped wiring in between them. Take a crop of that and I think it makes a great picture on it's own. Just play around with Levels and Contrast to make the wiring stand out as much as possible.

icywarm · 03-13-2010, 01:29 PM

Is it on a hill? I cannot make sense of it... I am getting dizzy trying to line up a straight edge with the photo's edge...

Damn Brit · 03-13-2010, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by icywarm

Is it on a hill? I cannot make sense of it... I am getting dizzy trying to line up a straight edge with the photo's edge...

If you look closely, it's on two hills which is probably why the building is so off-kilter.

icywarm · 03-13-2010, 01:48 PM

Gary - might not want to recommend a wide lens, OP might have to get close to the building, and if it is leaning that much could be lights out when it falls on him!

Damn Brit · 03-13-2010, 02:09 PM

It would be ok if he lined himself up with the doorway. Have you ever seen that old silent movie (Mack Sennet I think it was) where they did that?

icywarm · 03-13-2010, 02:51 PM

Yeah I remember that clip, that took big balls... that was no digital effects, a few inches off and SpLAt!

cb750r · 03-13-2010, 05:55 PM

I was across the street, and shot from street level, if anything I was down hill as the road sloped away from what I was shooting. I was using a 28-70mm lens at the time, because I was hoping to capture the oddness of this building and my 10-20 mm would have added its own distortion making it harder to determine what was poor workmanship and what was lens distortion. I was really shocked when I saw someone walk out of this building!

Here is Edit 2 Does the added amount of street help reduce the "toy town" effect?

Damn Brit · 03-13-2010, 06:13 PM

It helps from that point of view but it doesn't really add anything to the image. That perspective is weird, even though you say differently, it still looks like you shot it from above street level.

I still say go closer (don't get run over) and use your 10-20, I think you need to exaggerate the existing distortion in the building to maximise the impact. Try different focal lengths and the see what looks best. If you are using PS, it's relatively easy to fix any excessive distortion (not sure about other software).

cb750r · 03-13-2010, 06:17 PM

Fair enough thanks.

tokyoso · 03-14-2010, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by cb750r

Here is Edit 2 Does the added amount of street help reduce the "toy town" effect?

might look better if you or someone walk in front of it to capture a little motion blur

03-12-2010, 06:43 PM	#1
cb750r Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 310	The ok Store Lens: 37mm Camera: KM Photo Location: Rossland BC ISO: 100 Shutter Speed: 1/500s Aperture: F8 I havent done a lot of BW conversions I posted a series in the photo sharing and didn't generate any comments, so I am posting here to get some feedback on your thoughts Thanks!

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03-12-2010, 10:27 PM	#2
Damn Brit Guest	On the conversion or the whole package?

03-13-2010, 12:26 PM	#3
cb750r Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 310 Original Poster	The whole package, is good, before you all blast me for not leveling my frame, I do honestly believe this structure lacked a single straight line in it...

03-13-2010, 01:21 PM	#4
Damn Brit Guest	No I won't blast you for that but it wouldn't hurt to get one of the horizontals straight, either the line above or the one below the sign, it should help. I will blast you for the perspective though. Shooting down on it just diminishes the building so, unless you're going for the toytown look, I think that was a mistake. It also has the consequence of giving you too much sky. By the focal length you entered I assume you were using the kit lens. So why not shoot from the wide end? You could get up much closer and shoot up, that would make the building loom much larger and blot out the sky. That would also probably emphasise all those off kilter lines making it look even more interesting. I'll tell you what I do like, those four windows with the 'Y' shaped wiring in between them. Take a crop of that and I think it makes a great picture on it's own. Just play around with Levels and Contrast to make the wiring stand out as much as possible.

03-13-2010, 01:29 PM	#5
icywarm Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Saskatchewan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,278	Is it on a hill? I cannot make sense of it... I am getting dizzy trying to line up a straight edge with the photo's edge...

03-13-2010, 01:43 PM	#6
Damn Brit Guest	Originally posted by icywarm Is it on a hill? I cannot make sense of it... I am getting dizzy trying to line up a straight edge with the photo's edge... If you look closely, it's on two hills which is probably why the building is so off-kilter.

03-13-2010, 01:48 PM	#7
icywarm Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Saskatchewan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,278	Gary - might not want to recommend a wide lens, OP might have to get close to the building, and if it is leaning that much could be lights out when it falls on him!

03-13-2010, 02:09 PM	#8
Damn Brit Guest	It would be ok if he lined himself up with the doorway. Have you ever seen that old silent movie (Mack Sennet I think it was) where they did that?

03-13-2010, 02:51 PM	#9
icywarm Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Saskatchewan Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,278	Yeah I remember that clip, that took big balls... that was no digital effects, a few inches off and SpLAt!

03-13-2010, 05:55 PM	#10
cb750r Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 310 Original Poster	I was across the street, and shot from street level, if anything I was down hill as the road sloped away from what I was shooting. I was using a 28-70mm lens at the time, because I was hoping to capture the oddness of this building and my 10-20 mm would have added its own distortion making it harder to determine what was poor workmanship and what was lens distortion. I was really shocked when I saw someone walk out of this building! Here is Edit 2 Does the added amount of street help reduce the "toy town" effect?

03-13-2010, 06:13 PM	#11
Damn Brit Guest	It helps from that point of view but it doesn't really add anything to the image. That perspective is weird, even though you say differently, it still looks like you shot it from above street level. I still say go closer (don't get run over) and use your 10-20, I think you need to exaggerate the existing distortion in the building to maximise the impact. Try different focal lengths and the see what looks best. If you are using PS, it's relatively easy to fix any excessive distortion (not sure about other software).

03-13-2010, 06:17 PM	#12
cb750r Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 310 Original Poster	Fair enough thanks.

03-14-2010, 06:59 AM	#13
tokyoso Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tokyo Photos: Albums Posts: 723	Originally posted by cb750r Here is Edit 2 Does the added amount of street help reduce the "toy town" effect? might look better if you or someone walk in front of it to capture a little motion blur