Streets A lone guitarist

wshi · 04-14-2010, 09:27 PM

Need help cropping. Any other critiques welcome too, of course.

Or:

Original, if you think mine above don't work at all and have some other ideas:

Thanks.

cb750r · 04-14-2010, 09:53 PM

I'd say somewhere between first and second, just a little more space around the head would do it for me personally.

AOShep · 04-14-2010, 10:20 PM

Using #1, a little more space above the head. Lop off about half way between the left edge and the guitar case and a simular amount off the bottom.

jct us101 · 04-15-2010, 01:23 AM

The second crop is my favorite, I think it works the most for the style of image that it is. I would also recommend maybe a vertical crop with him kind of at the middle of it, but I can only assume that would look good from some mental cropping I did. It looks kind of dull too, more contrast perhaps?

smf · 04-15-2010, 09:03 AM

Perhaps something like this would work.

Tuner571 · 04-15-2010, 09:51 AM

Very nice shots here, however, there are a few things that you could do to make them better. Firstly, I would try and add some contrast to the image so that details and shadows pop more. Secondly, I would try and add a little sharpening to the image. It looks like the image is slightly blurry and some sharpening would help that out.

As others have mentioned a tighter crop of the subject would be good as well as it would be a much clearer photo as to the subject. Another thing I would recommend is that if you get to shoot this man again try getting down lower to the ground and on his perspective. So many people see this man from your height and coming down lower would give a much more unique perspective on the person. I hope this helps in your future photographs, but I really like this shot and you did a great job capturing this man in public.

Cory

johnmflores · 04-15-2010, 11:26 AM

If the title is Lone Guitarist then crop it to make him seem as lonely as possible...

The empty storefront behind him helps, so don't crop it out.

The barbershop storefront on the left makes it feel less lonely, so crop it out.

The door on the right makes it feel less lonely, so crop it out.

IMHO, the barren sidewalk + guitarist + empty store = lonely.

wshi · 04-15-2010, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by cb750r

I'd say somewhere between first and second, just a little more space around the head would do it for me personally.

Originally posted by AOShep

Using #1, a little more space above the head. Lop off about half way between the left edge and the guitar case and a simular amount off the bottom.

I agree that some more room above his head would be good. I didn't say in the OP, but the one I was leaning towards more was #2, partly for this reason.

Originally posted by jct us101

The second crop is my favorite, I think it works the most for the style of image that it is. I would also recommend maybe a vertical crop with him kind of at the middle of it, but I can only assume that would look good from some mental cropping I did. It looks kind of dull too, more contrast perhaps?

I hadn't thought of using a vertical crop, maybe I'll try it out. Contrast, I don't think can go any higher. I think I have it at +100 in ACR already

Originally posted by smf

Perhaps something like this would work.

I think you're going for something like my #1, with more of a focus on the guitarist. I like this crop, more emphasis on the subject.

Originally posted by Tuner571

Very nice shots here however, there are a few things that you could do to make them better. Firstly, I would try and add some contrast to the image so that details and shadows pop more. Secondly, I would try and add a little sharpening to the image. It looks like the image is slightly blurry and some sharpening would help that out. As other of mentioned a tighter crop of the subject would be good as well as it would be a much clearer photo as to the subject. Another I would recommend is that if you get to shoot this man again try getting down lower to the ground and on his perspective. So many people see this man from your height and coming down lower would give a much more unique perspective on the person. I hope this helps in your future photographs, but I really like this shot and you did a great job capturing this man in public.

Cory

Again, I'm a bit surprised that you guys think this needs more contrast... I'll try to bump it up. Good idea dropping low, also. I usually try to do that, but I guess I was more worried about keeping up with the people I was with than taking photos.

wshi · 04-15-2010, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

If the title is Lone Guitarist then crop it to make him seem as lonely as possible...

The empty storefront behind him helps, so don't crop it out.

The barbershop storefront on the left makes it feel less lonely, so crop it out.

The door on the right makes it feel less lonely, so crop it out.

IMHO, the barren sidewalk + guitarist + empty store = lonely.

These were my thoughts exactly when framing the shot, and then in PP later. I tried to include as much empty sidewalk as possible without making it feel like useless space.

04-15-2010, 09:03 AM	#5
smf Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Midland, MI Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,083	A proposal Perhaps something like this would work. Attached Images

04-15-2010, 09:51 AM	#6
Tuner571 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,549	Very nice shots here, however, there are a few things that you could do to make them better. Firstly, I would try and add some contrast to the image so that details and shadows pop more. Secondly, I would try and add a little sharpening to the image. It looks like the image is slightly blurry and some sharpening would help that out. As others have mentioned a tighter crop of the subject would be good as well as it would be a much clearer photo as to the subject. Another thing I would recommend is that if you get to shoot this man again try getting down lower to the ground and on his perspective. So many people see this man from your height and coming down lower would give a much more unique perspective on the person. I hope this helps in your future photographs, but I really like this shot and you did a great job capturing this man in public. Cory Last edited by Tuner571; 04-25-2010 at 12:44 PM.

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04-14-2010, 09:27 PM	#1
wshi Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 455	A lone guitarist Lens: 35mm Camera: K-x Photo Location: Green St, Champaign ISO: 400 Shutter Speed: 1/250s Aperture: F8 Need help cropping. Any other critiques welcome too, of course. Or: Original, if you think mine above don't work at all and have some other ideas: Thanks.

04-14-2010, 09:53 PM	#2
cb750r Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 310	I'd say somewhere between first and second, just a little more space around the head would do it for me personally.

04-14-2010, 10:20 PM	#3
AOShep Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eastern PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 293	Using #1, a little more space above the head. Lop off about half way between the left edge and the guitar case and a simular amount off the bottom.

04-15-2010, 01:23 AM	#4
jct us101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 3,793	The second crop is my favorite, I think it works the most for the style of image that it is. I would also recommend maybe a vertical crop with him kind of at the middle of it, but I can only assume that would look good from some mental cropping I did. It looks kind of dull too, more contrast perhaps?

04-15-2010, 11:26 AM	#7
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	If the title is Lone Guitarist then crop it to make him seem as lonely as possible... The empty storefront behind him helps, so don't crop it out. The barbershop storefront on the left makes it feel less lonely, so crop it out. The door on the right makes it feel less lonely, so crop it out. IMHO, the barren sidewalk + guitarist + empty store = lonely.

04-15-2010, 11:57 AM	#8
wshi Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 455 Original Poster	Originally posted by cb750r I'd say somewhere between first and second, just a little more space around the head would do it for me personally. Originally posted by AOShep Using #1, a little more space above the head. Lop off about half way between the left edge and the guitar case and a simular amount off the bottom. I agree that some more room above his head would be good. I didn't say in the OP, but the one I was leaning towards more was #2, partly for this reason. Originally posted by jct us101 The second crop is my favorite, I think it works the most for the style of image that it is. I would also recommend maybe a vertical crop with him kind of at the middle of it, but I can only assume that would look good from some mental cropping I did. It looks kind of dull too, more contrast perhaps? I hadn't thought of using a vertical crop, maybe I'll try it out. Contrast, I don't think can go any higher. I think I have it at +100 in ACR already Originally posted by smf Perhaps something like this would work. I think you're going for something like my #1, with more of a focus on the guitarist. I like this crop, more emphasis on the subject. Originally posted by Tuner571 Very nice shots here however, there are a few things that you could do to make them better. Firstly, I would try and add some contrast to the image so that details and shadows pop more. Secondly, I would try and add a little sharpening to the image. It looks like the image is slightly blurry and some sharpening would help that out. As other of mentioned a tighter crop of the subject would be good as well as it would be a much clearer photo as to the subject. Another I would recommend is that if you get to shoot this man again try getting down lower to the ground and on his perspective. So many people see this man from your height and coming down lower would give a much more unique perspective on the person. I hope this helps in your future photographs, but I really like this shot and you did a great job capturing this man in public. Cory Again, I'm a bit surprised that you guys think this needs more contrast... I'll try to bump it up. Good idea dropping low, also. I usually try to do that, but I guess I was more worried about keeping up with the people I was with than taking photos.

04-15-2010, 11:58 AM	#9
wshi Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 455 Original Poster	Originally posted by johnmflores If the title is Lone Guitarist then crop it to make him seem as lonely as possible... The empty storefront behind him helps, so don't crop it out. The barbershop storefront on the left makes it feel less lonely, so crop it out. The door on the right makes it feel less lonely, so crop it out. IMHO, the barren sidewalk + guitarist + empty store = lonely. These were my thoughts exactly when framing the shot, and then in PP later. I tried to include as much empty sidewalk as possible without making it feel like useless space.