Kiwi Pentaxians

Kiwigeezer · 08-05-2017, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by GUB

Na - only ever bought one there - it was rough so I avoid him (hope he is not a friend!). This was swiftbrownfox

Not a friend, just curious

I did pick up a mint Tak 135 3.5 for a $1 awhile ago from him -nobody else bid -but I know from his feedback that his stuff can be a mixed bag.[COLOR="Silver"]

---------- Post added 08-06-17 at 05:04 PM ----------

Cheap 50 on TMe.

Last edited by Kiwigeezer; 08-05-2017 at 10:06 PM.

**GUB** · 08-05-2017, 11:46 PM

I would manual focus on the road gravel at a given point using liveview and focus peaking. I see despite you having a zoom on you have had it at its widest (55mm) only. Often the case with zooms - why I use old primes.

awa355 · 08-06-2017, 12:37 AM

I will have to look into this focus peaking more. I rarely use live view but probably should.

**GUB** · 08-06-2017, 01:19 AM

Originally posted by awa355

I will have to look into this focus peaking more. I rarely use live view but probably should.

It is not possible to take this prefocusing approach with a lot of action type photos but if you take a look at your technique with these cyclists it would work well here.

Class A · 08-06-2017, 03:08 AM

Originally posted by GUB

It should be a 6 element smc Tak - The queen of them - oh well we shall see!!

I have the K-mount version of this lens. I really like it!

**GUB** · 08-06-2017, 03:25 AM

Originally posted by Class A

I have the K-mount version of this lens. I really like it!

Yeah that is the King of the 135s!!

**zkarj** · 08-06-2017, 02:32 PM - **1 Like**

Suburban Wellington. A Monday morning. The sun is out.

A vehicle approaches. Diesel. It stops. Nearby.

He arises and gingerly peers out the front window. An unmarked van is parked out front.

He grabs the key and unlocks the front door as a lady appears from behind the van and approaches.

"Good morning sir!"

"Good morning."

"Here you go. "

"Thank you."

"You're welcome. Have a nice day."

"You too."

The lady returns to the van and departs. The brief transaction complete...

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**zkarj** · 08-06-2017, 02:37 PM

Pffft. You think you have LBA? Check out what it came packed in. That's LBA.

Kiwi645hauler · 08-06-2017, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by awa355

For photographing cycling what focus settings would you use?

I started with 5 point for the side on photos then decided the camera was focusing on the hedge behind the riders. Went to single point then. For the more front on pics, I think I was using the 5 points option again.

I wish the exif info showed what focus setting was used. I see that the focus range in the EXIF info state 'Distant' Can anyone explain this?. Thanks. All these are cropped jpegs.

Are you using S-AF or C-AF in the settings? I would hazzard a guess that in S-AF what is happening is that it is focusing when you compose the shot and not moving if you have recomposed a little, try C-AF and use the tracking feature of the K-50 as well, this will help keep the target subject in focus while you hold the half press on the shutter release, and also track that subject across the frame and keep those riders in focus in stead of the hedge and traffic sign/

awa355 · 08-06-2017, 05:10 PM

My AF mode with sports is always AF-C. I hadn't thought about using the tracking feature as most of my sport photography is teams and I understand that tracking tends to lock onto a colour and so could still jump between players with the same jerseys.
With some of those group photos I was trying to get the lot in focus.

Class A · 08-06-2017, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by zkarj

The brief transaction complete...

Nice lens. Has its weaknesses near wide open, but still a very nice lens.

I'm not using my copy enough. The 43/1.9 always wins the battle for a place on the camera or in the bag.

What did you end up paying for yours? Not a problem if you'd rather not say.

Arpe · 08-06-2017, 05:32 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by awa355

For photographing cycling what focus settings would you use?

I started with 5 point for the side on photos then decided the camera was focusing on the hedge behind the riders. Went to single point then. For the more front on pics, I think I was using the 5 points option again.

I wish the exif info showed what focus setting was used. I see that the focus range in the EXIF info state 'Distant' Can anyone explain this?. Thanks. All these are cropped jpegs.

I've never photo'd cycling.

For side on I'd try panning at least a little to show wheel spinning, so I'd start somewhere around 1/100th and see what develops (pun intended). If that works try slower. Naturally you'll end up with a smaller aperture, but that doesn't matter as the background would be blurred by the panning hopefully. The more you practice the better at it you'll get.

For front on I would try and isolate a cyclist using f2.8, shutter maybe not below 1/1000? Again, trial and error. If you want a group to be in focus naturally a smaller aperture which you may have to make up for by a higher ISO or slower shutter.

For all these I'd be TAv mode.

You'll just have to experiment to see what results you like.

**zkarj** · 08-07-2017, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by Class A

What did you end up paying for yours? Not a problem if you'd rather not say.

If you scroll (and/or page) back a little you'll see there was an auction on TradeMe for the lens (someone pointed it out and it was discussed). Oh, and there was something attached to it, also visible in the (mysterious?) picture above. I paid the Buy Now price.

Kiwigeezer · 08-07-2017, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by zkarj

If you scroll (and/or page) back a little you'll see there was an auction on TradeMe for the lens (someone pointed it out and it was discussed). Oh, and there was something attached to it, also visible in the (mysterious?) picture above. I paid the Buy Now price.

Ah yes, the small matter of the thing it was attached to. Clearly not what you were seeking, so I'm happy to take it off your hands. For a small fee.

---------- Post added 08-07-17 at 09:59 PM ----------

Originally posted by zkarj

If you scroll (and/or page) back a little you'll see there was an auction on TradeMe for the lens (someone pointed it out and it was discussed). Oh, and there was something attached to it, also visible in the (mysterious?) picture above. I paid the Buy Now price.

That aside, impressions?

Kiwizinho · 08-07-2017, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by zkarj

The brief transaction complete...

Well if you want to go lurking around in a trench coat, you want something nice and compact that you can easily hide...

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08-05-2017, 09:32 PM	#13756
Kiwigeezer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Nelson Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 266	Originally posted by GUB Na - only ever bought one there - it was rough so I avoid him (hope he is not a friend!). This was swiftbrownfox Not a friend, just curious I did pick up a mint Tak 135 3.5 for a $1 awhile ago from him -nobody else bid -but I know from his feedback that his stuff can be a mixed bag.[COLOR="Silver"] ---------- Post added 08-06-17 at 05:04 PM ---------- Cheap 50 on TMe. Last edited by Kiwigeezer; 08-05-2017 at 10:06 PM.

08-05-2017, 11:46 PM	#13757
GUB Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Wanganui Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,760	I would manual focus on the road gravel at a given point using liveview and focus peaking. I see despite you having a zoom on you have had it at its widest (55mm) only. Often the case with zooms - why I use old primes.

08-06-2017, 12:37 AM	#13758
awa355 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 331	I will have to look into this focus peaking more. I rarely use live view but probably should.

08-06-2017, 01:19 AM	#13759
GUB Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Wanganui Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,760	Originally posted by awa355 I will have to look into this focus peaking more. I rarely use live view but probably should. It is not possible to take this prefocusing approach with a lot of action type photos but if you take a look at your technique with these cyclists it would work well here.

08-06-2017, 03:08 AM	#13760
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251 Original Poster	Originally posted by GUB It should be a 6 element smc Tak - The queen of them - oh well we shall see!! I have the K-mount version of this lens. I really like it!

08-06-2017, 03:25 AM	#13761
GUB Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Wanganui Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,760	Originally posted by Class A I have the K-mount version of this lens. I really like it! Yeah that is the King of the 135s!!

08-06-2017, 02:45 PM	#13764
Kiwi645hauler Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Dunedin Posts: 394	Originally posted by awa355 For photographing cycling what focus settings would you use? I started with 5 point for the side on photos then decided the camera was focusing on the hedge behind the riders. Went to single point then. For the more front on pics, I think I was using the 5 points option again. I wish the exif info showed what focus setting was used. I see that the focus range in the EXIF info state 'Distant' Can anyone explain this?. Thanks. All these are cropped jpegs. Are you using S-AF or C-AF in the settings? I would hazzard a guess that in S-AF what is happening is that it is focusing when you compose the shot and not moving if you have recomposed a little, try C-AF and use the tracking feature of the K-50 as well, this will help keep the target subject in focus while you hold the half press on the shutter release, and also track that subject across the frame and keep those riders in focus in stead of the hedge and traffic sign/

08-06-2017, 05:10 PM	#13765
awa355 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 331	My AF mode with sports is always AF-C. I hadn't thought about using the tracking feature as most of my sport photography is teams and I understand that tracking tends to lock onto a colour and so could still jump between players with the same jerseys. With some of those group photos I was trying to get the lot in focus.

08-06-2017, 05:25 PM	#13766
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251 Original Poster	Originally posted by zkarj The brief transaction complete... Nice lens. Has its weaknesses near wide open, but still a very nice lens. I'm not using my copy enough. The 43/1.9 always wins the battle for a place on the camera or in the bag. What did you end up paying for yours? Not a problem if you'd rather not say.

08-06-2017, 05:32 PM - 1 Like	#13767
Arpe Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,452	Originally posted by awa355 For photographing cycling what focus settings would you use? I started with 5 point for the side on photos then decided the camera was focusing on the hedge behind the riders. Went to single point then. For the more front on pics, I think I was using the 5 points option again. I wish the exif info showed what focus setting was used. I see that the focus range in the EXIF info state 'Distant' Can anyone explain this?. Thanks. All these are cropped jpegs. I've never photo'd cycling. For side on I'd try panning at least a little to show wheel spinning, so I'd start somewhere around 1/100th and see what develops (pun intended). If that works try slower. Naturally you'll end up with a smaller aperture, but that doesn't matter as the background would be blurred by the panning hopefully. The more you practice the better at it you'll get. For front on I would try and isolate a cyclist using f2.8, shutter maybe not below 1/1000? Again, trial and error. If you want a group to be in focus naturally a smaller aperture which you may have to make up for by a higher ISO or slower shutter. For all these I'd be TAv mode. You'll just have to experiment to see what results you like.

08-07-2017, 02:12 AM	#13768
zkarj Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wellington Posts: 1,290	Originally posted by Class A What did you end up paying for yours? Not a problem if you'd rather not say. If you scroll (and/or page) back a little you'll see there was an auction on TradeMe for the lens (someone pointed it out and it was discussed). Oh, and there was something attached to it, also visible in the (mysterious?) picture above. I paid the Buy Now price.

08-07-2017, 02:57 AM	#13769
Kiwigeezer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Nelson Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 266	Originally posted by zkarj If you scroll (and/or page) back a little you'll see there was an auction on TradeMe for the lens (someone pointed it out and it was discussed). Oh, and there was something attached to it, also visible in the (mysterious?) picture above. I paid the Buy Now price. Ah yes, the small matter of the thing it was attached to. Clearly not what you were seeking, so I'm happy to take it off your hands. For a small fee. ---------- Post added 08-07-17 at 09:59 PM ---------- Originally posted by zkarj If you scroll (and/or page) back a little you'll see there was an auction on TradeMe for the lens (someone pointed it out and it was discussed). Oh, and there was something attached to it, also visible in the (mysterious?) picture above. I paid the Buy Now price. That aside, impressions?

08-07-2017, 03:16 AM	#13770
Kiwizinho Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Blenheim Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,291	Originally posted by zkarj The brief transaction complete... Well if you want to go lurking around in a trench coat, you want something nice and compact that you can easily hide...