Kiwi Pentaxians

MarkJerling · 02-23-2018, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by Kiwigeezer

Poll on the reasons for this.

"Important: as you can see on the photos, I used to have all the labels covered up to keep the camera anonymous while travelling."

And this was because...

I've seen this before. Strangely, some (mainly Pentax) camera owners feel they need to hide their allegiances when in the company of Canikon shooters. Why I don't know.

Transit · 02-23-2018, 11:18 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kiwigeezer

And this was because...

it was obviously an expensive pro camera so avoiding theft

---------- Post added 24th Feb 2018 at 07:20 PM ----------

Originally posted by MarkJerling

I've seen this before. Strangely, some (mainly Pentax) camera owners feel they need to hide their allegiances when in the company of Canikon shooters. Why I don't know.

was at the farmers market this am...I continually shifted the label on my strap to attract other descerning Pentax users

Thought I'd better ask him a 'question'

sqrrl · 02-24-2018, 03:13 PM

I started doing that to cut down reflections when shooting through glass

I'll admit to having bundled a couple of cameras up in tape while travelling to make them look like they were broken and on their last legs.

Avoiding gear chats is just a bonus.

Kiwi645hauler · 02-27-2018, 06:42 PM - **1 Like**

It's funny, some do it to hide what brand they shoot, some do it to cut reflections down, but many do it because a black body with that crisp white logo on it still attracts attention.. black blends in still....
On a side note, the K-1 Upgrade option being offered in the states and Europe, at this point looks like a Europe,USA only offer at this point

I spoke with Ian Little this morning after fielding several calls from K-1 Customers. It seems Ricoh/Pentax are considering offering it as a global thing, but at this point they are trying to control the service centres where the upgrade is being done, it seems only one or 2 in the USA, and maybe 3 in the UK/Europe will be offering it, so they may do the same for the rest of the world and any camera would need to go via the local distributor. Good chance if it is offered here and Oz that they will either go to Melbourne or home to Japan.

**NZ_Ross** · 02-27-2018, 07:31 PM

Thanks Hayden, not that I own a K-1 but that is helpful to know

Class A · 02-28-2018, 04:13 AM

Originally posted by Kiwi110Auto

Good chance if it is offered here and Oz that they will either go to Melbourne or home to Japan.

CRK will offer the K-1 upgrade.
No idea whether the work will be done locally or not, though.

**GUB** · 02-28-2018, 12:12 PM

The good thing about being late to the party (like usual for NZ) is we will have some insight into whether it is worth the effort. Sounds like there might be pure and simple major gains in normal usage (low to mid Iso) IQ.
The hard part will be to tear it out of my grasping hands to send it away.

Kiwi645hauler · 02-28-2018, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Class A

CRK will offer the K-1 upgrade.
No idea whether the work will be done locally or not, though.

That's pretty darn good to know.

Kiwi645hauler · 02-28-2018, 03:52 PM - **1 Like**

Pricing for the K-1II has been announced for NZ.... we are looking at $3399 Incl GST body only Which compared to importing from B&H and using 72c as the US exchange rate, the kiwi price is about $150 more expensive than from B&H, but does not require customs codes etc... Deliveries are due to start later this month, but will initially be in small numbers

---------- Post added 02-28-18 at 04:48 PM ----------

Sorry for all the posts... but more good news for us Pentaxians.... The NZ price of pretty much all the available Pentax lenses has dropped unexpectedly from today... Check out all the pricing Some glass has dropped Significantly ie our price on the D-FA 24-70mm f2.8 has dropped from $2800 to $1999, the D-FA 70-200 f2.8 has dropped from $3800 to $2899!

**zkarj** · 03-01-2018, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by Kiwi110Auto

The NZ price of pretty much all the available Pentax lenses has dropped unexpectedly from today...

That's terrible news... for my wallet. Actually, after "rediscovering" the M lenses plus learning to appreciate my f/1.4 50mm I'm like a pig in slop at the moment. My only thing lacking is time to play.

I've just done the Pentax survey. Interesting results. I did not realise WR was such a popular feature. I was happy to see AF improvements topping the hardware wants (along with IQ), but found the software enhancements a bit of a mixed bag for me - seems like everyone wants something different.

richandfleur · 03-01-2018, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by zkarj

I've just done the Pentax survey. Interesting results.

Yeah the results are quite interesting. Clearly more interest in purchasing the top end cameras, both APS-C and FF, much more than the mid tier ones for example.

Seen this guys?
Pentax HD Pentax-DA 55-300mm f/4-5.8 ED WR Lens 22270 B&H Photo
About $230NZ landed in NZ

**zkarj** · 03-01-2018, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by richandfleur

Clearly more interest in purchasing the top end cameras, both APS-C and FF, much more than the mid tier ones for example.

I found that a really difficult question to answer. I went *istDS, K10D, K-5, K-P, and every one was a significant upgrade from the last. So... do I buy high end or mid-tier? I don't even know which one the K-P is. It's missing K-3 features, but has way more than the K-5. Is the 6 year age difference to blame? It's like it's tier 1.5 or something. #shrug

MarkJerling · 03-01-2018, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by Kiwi110Auto

Pricing for the K-1II has been announced for NZ.... we are looking at $3399 Incl GST body only Which compared to importing from B&H and using 72c as the US exchange rate, the kiwi price is about $150 more expensive than from B&H, but does not require customs codes etc... Deliveries are due to start later this month, but will initially be in small numbers

---------- Post added 02-28-18 at 04:48 PM ----------

Sorry for all the posts... but more good news for us Pentaxians.... The NZ price of pretty much all the available Pentax lenses has dropped unexpectedly from today... Check out all the pricing Some glass has dropped Significantly ie our price on the D-FA 24-70mm f2.8 has dropped from $2800 to $1999, the D-FA 70-200 f2.8 has dropped from $3800 to $2899!

While I'd like one, I'd have to keep dreaming. My wife may still understand a $3,399 bicycle purchase but a camera......

richandfleur · 03-01-2018, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by zkarj

I found that a really difficult question to answer. I went *istDS, K10D, K-5, K-P, and every one was a significant upgrade from the last. So... do I buy high end or mid-tier? I don't even know which one the K-P is. It's missing K-3 features, but has way more than the K-5. Is the 6 year age difference to blame? It's like it's tier 1.5 or something. #shrug

Yeah the KP was a weird one, model placement wise. It really is a new tier between the mid and top. It's almost like Pentax thought they could palm that off as a K-3 replacement, but in some areas the K-P is ahead, and in others it's quite a while behind the K-3 level specs. Agree with the #shrug comment on that one.

Class A · 03-01-2018, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by Kiwi110Auto

Significantly ie our price on the D-FA 24-70mm f2.8 has dropped from $2800 to $1999, the D-FA 70-200 f2.8 has dropped from $3800 to $2899!

Wow, these are breathtaking reductions!

I may become tempted now...

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02-23-2018, 10:04 PM	#14806
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,402	Originally posted by Kiwigeezer Poll on the reasons for this. "Important: as you can see on the photos, I used to have all the labels covered up to keep the camera anonymous while travelling." And this was because... I've seen this before. Strangely, some (mainly Pentax) camera owners feel they need to hide their allegiances when in the company of Canikon shooters. Why I don't know.

02-23-2018, 11:18 PM - 1 Like	#14807
Transit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Whanganui NZ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,624	Originally posted by Kiwigeezer And this was because... it was obviously an expensive pro camera so avoiding theft ---------- Post added 24th Feb 2018 at 07:20 PM ---------- Originally posted by MarkJerling I've seen this before. Strangely, some (mainly Pentax) camera owners feel they need to hide their allegiances when in the company of Canikon shooters. Why I don't know. was at the farmers market this am...I continually shifted the label on my strap to attract other descerning Pentax users Thought I'd better ask him a 'question'

02-24-2018, 03:13 PM	#14808
sqrrl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Otago, New Zealand Posts: 422	I started doing that to cut down reflections when shooting through glass I'll admit to having bundled a couple of cameras up in tape while travelling to make them look like they were broken and on their last legs. Avoiding gear chats is just a bonus.

02-27-2018, 06:42 PM - 1 Like	#14809
Kiwi645hauler Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Dunedin Posts: 394	It's funny, some do it to hide what brand they shoot, some do it to cut reflections down, but many do it because a black body with that crisp white logo on it still attracts attention.. black blends in still.... On a side note, the K-1 Upgrade option being offered in the states and Europe, at this point looks like a Europe,USA only offer at this point I spoke with Ian Little this morning after fielding several calls from K-1 Customers. It seems Ricoh/Pentax are considering offering it as a global thing, but at this point they are trying to control the service centres where the upgrade is being done, it seems only one or 2 in the USA, and maybe 3 in the UK/Europe will be offering it, so they may do the same for the rest of the world and any camera would need to go via the local distributor. Good chance if it is offered here and Oz that they will either go to Melbourne or home to Japan.

02-27-2018, 07:31 PM	#14810
NZ_Ross Kiwi Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Timaru Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,225	Thanks Hayden, not that I own a K-1 but that is helpful to know

02-28-2018, 04:13 AM	#14811
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251 Original Poster	Originally posted by Kiwi110Auto Good chance if it is offered here and Oz that they will either go to Melbourne or home to Japan. CRK will offer the K-1 upgrade. No idea whether the work will be done locally or not, though.

02-28-2018, 12:12 PM	#14812
GUB Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Wanganui Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,751	The good thing about being late to the party (like usual for NZ) is we will have some insight into whether it is worth the effort. Sounds like there might be pure and simple major gains in normal usage (low to mid Iso) IQ. The hard part will be to tear it out of my grasping hands to send it away.

02-28-2018, 12:57 PM	#14813
Kiwi645hauler Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Dunedin Posts: 394	Originally posted by Class A CRK will offer the K-1 upgrade. No idea whether the work will be done locally or not, though. That's pretty darn good to know.

02-28-2018, 03:52 PM - 1 Like	#14814
Kiwi645hauler Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Dunedin Posts: 394	Pricing for the K-1II has been announced for NZ.... we are looking at $3399 Incl GST body only Which compared to importing from B&H and using 72c as the US exchange rate, the kiwi price is about $150 more expensive than from B&H, but does not require customs codes etc... Deliveries are due to start later this month, but will initially be in small numbers ---------- Post added 02-28-18 at 04:48 PM ---------- Sorry for all the posts... but more good news for us Pentaxians.... The NZ price of pretty much all the available Pentax lenses has dropped unexpectedly from today... Check out all the pricing Some glass has dropped Significantly ie our price on the D-FA 24-70mm f2.8 has dropped from $2800 to $1999, the D-FA 70-200 f2.8 has dropped from $3800 to $2899!

03-01-2018, 01:08 PM	#14815
zkarj Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wellington Posts: 1,290	Originally posted by Kiwi110Auto The NZ price of pretty much all the available Pentax lenses has dropped unexpectedly from today... That's terrible news... for my wallet. Actually, after "rediscovering" the M lenses plus learning to appreciate my f/1.4 50mm I'm like a pig in slop at the moment. My only thing lacking is time to play. I've just done the Pentax survey. Interesting results. I did not realise WR was such a popular feature. I was happy to see AF improvements topping the hardware wants (along with IQ), but found the software enhancements a bit of a mixed bag for me - seems like everyone wants something different.

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03-01-2018, 03:27 PM	#14816
richandfleur Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand Photos: Albums Posts: 1,788	Originally posted by zkarj I've just done the Pentax survey. Interesting results. Yeah the results are quite interesting. Clearly more interest in purchasing the top end cameras, both APS-C and FF, much more than the mid tier ones for example. Seen this guys? Pentax HD Pentax-DA 55-300mm f/4-5.8 ED WR Lens 22270 B&H Photo About $230NZ landed in NZ

03-01-2018, 04:12 PM	#14817
zkarj Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wellington Posts: 1,290	Originally posted by richandfleur Clearly more interest in purchasing the top end cameras, both APS-C and FF, much more than the mid tier ones for example. I found that a really difficult question to answer. I went *istDS, K10D, K-5, K-P, and every one was a significant upgrade from the last. So... do I buy high end or mid-tier? I don't even know which one the K-P is. It's missing K-3 features, but has way more than the K-5. Is the 6 year age difference to blame? It's like it's tier 1.5 or something. #shrug

03-01-2018, 04:26 PM	#14818
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,402	Originally posted by Kiwi110Auto Pricing for the K-1II has been announced for NZ.... we are looking at $3399 Incl GST body only Which compared to importing from B&H and using 72c as the US exchange rate, the kiwi price is about $150 more expensive than from B&H, but does not require customs codes etc... Deliveries are due to start later this month, but will initially be in small numbers ---------- Post added 02-28-18 at 04:48 PM ---------- Sorry for all the posts... but more good news for us Pentaxians.... The NZ price of pretty much all the available Pentax lenses has dropped unexpectedly from today... Check out all the pricing Some glass has dropped Significantly ie our price on the D-FA 24-70mm f2.8 has dropped from $2800 to $1999, the D-FA 70-200 f2.8 has dropped from $3800 to $2899! While I'd like one, I'd have to keep dreaming. My wife may still understand a $3,399 bicycle purchase but a camera......

03-01-2018, 04:33 PM	#14819
richandfleur Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand Photos: Albums Posts: 1,788	Originally posted by zkarj I found that a really difficult question to answer. I went *istDS, K10D, K-5, K-P, and every one was a significant upgrade from the last. So... do I buy high end or mid-tier? I don't even know which one the K-P is. It's missing K-3 features, but has way more than the K-5. Is the 6 year age difference to blame? It's like it's tier 1.5 or something. #shrug Yeah the KP was a weird one, model placement wise. It really is a new tier between the mid and top. It's almost like Pentax thought they could palm that off as a K-3 replacement, but in some areas the K-P is ahead, and in others it's quite a while behind the K-3 level specs. Agree with the #shrug comment on that one.

03-01-2018, 07:55 PM	#14820
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251 Original Poster	Originally posted by Kiwi110Auto Significantly ie our price on the D-FA 24-70mm f2.8 has dropped from $2800 to $1999, the D-FA 70-200 f2.8 has dropped from $3800 to $2899! Wow, these are breathtaking reductions! I may become tempted now...