Film users?

**ChrisPlatt** · 05-30-2010, 03:51 AM

Presently threads related to film processing and conventional (wet) darkroom get lost
among the digital-related topics in Post Processing, Printing, Software and Darkroom.

IMO film users at Pentaxforums deserve a forum/subforum where we can easily find such posts.

Please add your opinion/comments to this Site Suggestions thread: Film processing and darkroom

TIA,
Chris

Last edited by ChrisPlatt; 05-30-2010 at 04:02 AM.

**ChrisPlatt** · 05-31-2010, 05:39 AM

From the lack of response it looks like folks here are interested in only the 645D!

Chris

lbenac · 05-31-2010, 07:14 AM

Yes that would make sense. There could be a Menu of some sort:

Analog and hybrid Photography

* Film 135

* Film MF

* Darkroom (Development, Wet Print) / Digital Darkroom (Scanning, Digital Processing)

ghelary · 05-31-2010, 08:17 AM

Well, you posted this thread only yestarday.

On my side, while I use MF (Pentax 6x7 + vintage folding) and 35mm (Pentax super program), I'm a a lazy boy and I process everything with a pro-lab that never messed my work : Negatif Plus.

Living in Paris means that setting a darkroom is a pain and using good external service is easy.

However I understand that some people would like to speak about their darkroom habits. Good luck !

**ChrisPlatt** · 06-01-2010, 05:27 PM

It's a couple of days now. I'm surprised more of you haven't responded.
Thanks to those that did.

Chris

Jools · 06-01-2010, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

It's a couple of days now. I'm surprised more of you haven't responded.
Thanks to those that did.

Chris

I'm with you.
But I don't own a Pentax MF camera so I am always reluctant to post MF questions. I work with a Mamiya C33.
I agree with your OP. I wish the discussions would not get lost.

mikebob · 06-01-2010, 07:33 PM

Those of us who seriously do darkroom stuff are better served over at apug.org. I do black and white and have a fully functional darkroom. I have found as you have that this is just not the place for that good stuff

I would agree, it would be nice to have a Film Processing and Darkroom, but I just don't think the participation would be there on this site. I'll keep an eye out, but use APUG for the serious stuff and use this site for the digital.

For the record, I do love my K10D and *ist DS as well as my Pentax 6x7, 645nii, ME Super and my Speed Graphic!

Mike

Nesster · 06-02-2010, 02:47 AM

Perhaps Pentax MF doesn't have the volume of users 35mm does, and so this section tends to get lighter usage. I know I don't use mine nearly enough - though I shoot 120 on a regular basis.

My thought is to allow 120 with 35mm and have all the film processing related stuff in the film SLR section... but not kick out anything that ends up here on that topic, as sometimes it just works out better that way.

**ChrisPlatt** · 06-02-2010, 07:30 AM

APUG is an important resource. But I like PentaxForums, and I want film to live here too!

Chris

mikebob · 06-02-2010, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

APUG is an important resource. But I like PentaxForums, and I want film to live here too!

Chris

Chris,
I couldn't agree more. I would certainly spend a lot more time here if there were a more active film/traditional darkroom forum. I'm just not sure it can happen with the digital crowd that hangs out here - no disrespect intended.

Mike

Portland Pete · 06-04-2010, 10:00 PM

I responded on your other thread in the Site Suggestions link. I think its a great idea.

stevebrot · 06-04-2010, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

APUG is an important resource. But I like PentaxForums, and I want film to live here too!

Chris

Agreed. I post here and on APUG. APUG is a great resource, but the atmosphere here is a little more open. We also have greater tolerance for a hybrid film/digital workflow. We have several active members who consistently produce excellent results from their film cameras and who are very knowledgeable about materials and techniques. It only follows that we should provide the means for these people to share their expertise on the same site where their photos are posted.

Steve

stevebrot · 06-04-2010, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by mikebob

Chris,
I couldn't agree more. I would certainly spend a lot more time here if there were a more active film/traditional darkroom forum. I'm just not sure it can happen with the digital crowd that hangs out here - no disrespect intended.

Mike

Most of the digital folk on this forum respect the long Pentax film tradition. I post my film shots along with my digital stuff and don't believe that I have ever had a disparaging remark based on medium alone. We do have our digital chauvinists, but they they are in the minority.

Steve

Matus · 06-05-2010, 08:50 AM

Chris, it seems that there are not that many MF users here (though I am around only shortly). I do agree that separate film forum would be nice, as the 645D is pretty much a camera for professionals for whom it is a tool and rich amateurs for whom it is a toy.

How many separate film forums are necessary I do not know. I am also a member on APUG (and LFF and rangefinderforum) and if I have a question to ask then I choose that forum where I have the biggest chance to get an answer. I would ask here Pentax-specific questions, but if I need some details over film development i ask at APUG or LFF.

I would just split the MF section into film and digital, or just make a separate forum for the 645D as it is a rising star and will attract more and more posts with time. At some point MF film part will be as hard to find among digital posts as it is in the "for sale" section now.

lbenac · 06-05-2010, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by Matus

I would just split the MF section into film and digital, or just make a separate forum for the 645D as it is a rising star and will attract more and more posts with time. At some point MF film part will be as hard to find among digital posts as it is in the "for sale" section now.

AMEN to that. I am 120% in favor of putting 645D post with digital and not with film. At the end of the day, it is closer in use and process than from our film MF.

Cheers,

Luc

05-30-2010, 03:51 AM	#1
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,696	Film users? Presently threads related to film processing and conventional (wet) darkroom get lost among the digital-related topics in Post Processing, Printing, Software and Darkroom. IMO film users at Pentaxforums deserve a forum/subforum where we can easily find such posts. Please add your opinion/comments to this Site Suggestions thread: Film processing and darkroom TIA, Chris Last edited by ChrisPlatt; 05-30-2010 at 04:02 AM.

06-02-2010, 07:30 AM	#9
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,696 Original Poster	The 800 lb. Gorilla APUG is an important resource. But I like PentaxForums, and I want film to live here too! Chris

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05-31-2010, 05:39 AM	#2
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,696 Original Poster	From the lack of response it looks like folks here are interested in only the 645D! Chris

05-31-2010, 07:14 AM	#3
lbenac Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Burnaby, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,313	Yes that would make sense. There could be a Menu of some sort: Analog and hybrid Photography * Film 135 * Film MF * Darkroom (Development, Wet Print) / Digital Darkroom (Scanning, Digital Processing)

05-31-2010, 08:17 AM	#4
ghelary Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 613	Well, you posted this thread only yestarday. On my side, while I use MF (Pentax 6x7 + vintage folding) and 35mm (Pentax super program), I'm a a lazy boy and I process everything with a pro-lab that never messed my work : Negatif Plus. Living in Paris means that setting a darkroom is a pain and using good external service is easy. However I understand that some people would like to speak about their darkroom habits. Good luck !

06-01-2010, 05:27 PM	#5
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,696 Original Poster	It's a couple of days now. I'm surprised more of you haven't responded. Thanks to those that did. Chris

06-01-2010, 05:48 PM	#6
Jools Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SW Wisconsin by way of Venezuela Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,398	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt It's a couple of days now. I'm surprised more of you haven't responded. Thanks to those that did. Chris I'm with you. But I don't own a Pentax MF camera so I am always reluctant to post MF questions. I work with a Mamiya C33. I agree with your OP. I wish the discussions would not get lost.

06-01-2010, 07:33 PM	#7
mikebob Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Denver, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 70	Those of us who seriously do darkroom stuff are better served over at apug.org. I do black and white and have a fully functional darkroom. I have found as you have that this is just not the place for that good stuff I would agree, it would be nice to have a Film Processing and Darkroom, but I just don't think the participation would be there on this site. I'll keep an eye out, but use APUG for the serious stuff and use this site for the digital. For the record, I do love my K10D and *ist DS as well as my Pentax 6x7, 645nii, ME Super and my Speed Graphic! Mike

06-02-2010, 02:47 AM	#8
Nesster Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 13,072	Perhaps Pentax MF doesn't have the volume of users 35mm does, and so this section tends to get lighter usage. I know I don't use mine nearly enough - though I shoot 120 on a regular basis. My thought is to allow 120 with 35mm and have all the film processing related stuff in the film SLR section... but not kick out anything that ends up here on that topic, as sometimes it just works out better that way.

06-02-2010, 07:50 AM	#10
mikebob Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Denver, CO Photos: Gallery Posts: 70	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt APUG is an important resource. But I like PentaxForums, and I want film to live here too! Chris Chris, I couldn't agree more. I would certainly spend a lot more time here if there were a more active film/traditional darkroom forum. I'm just not sure it can happen with the digital crowd that hangs out here - no disrespect intended. Mike

06-04-2010, 10:00 PM	#11
Portland Pete Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oregon Photos: Albums Posts: 144	I responded on your other thread in the Site Suggestions link. I think its a great idea.

06-04-2010, 10:28 PM	#12
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt APUG is an important resource. But I like PentaxForums, and I want film to live here too! Chris Agreed. I post here and on APUG. APUG is a great resource, but the atmosphere here is a little more open. We also have greater tolerance for a hybrid film/digital workflow. We have several active members who consistently produce excellent results from their film cameras and who are very knowledgeable about materials and techniques. It only follows that we should provide the means for these people to share their expertise on the same site where their photos are posted. Steve

06-04-2010, 10:37 PM	#13
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by mikebob Chris, I couldn't agree more. I would certainly spend a lot more time here if there were a more active film/traditional darkroom forum. I'm just not sure it can happen with the digital crowd that hangs out here - no disrespect intended. Mike Most of the digital folk on this forum respect the long Pentax film tradition. I post my film shots along with my digital stuff and don't believe that I have ever had a disparaging remark based on medium alone. We do have our digital chauvinists, but they they are in the minority. Steve

06-05-2010, 08:50 AM	#14
Matus Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 27	Chris, it seems that there are not that many MF users here (though I am around only shortly). I do agree that separate film forum would be nice, as the 645D is pretty much a camera for professionals for whom it is a tool and rich amateurs for whom it is a toy. How many separate film forums are necessary I do not know. I am also a member on APUG (and LFF and rangefinderforum) and if I have a question to ask then I choose that forum where I have the biggest chance to get an answer. I would ask here Pentax-specific questions, but if I need some details over film development i ask at APUG or LFF. I would just split the MF section into film and digital, or just make a separate forum for the 645D as it is a rising star and will attract more and more posts with time. At some point MF film part will be as hard to find among digital posts as it is in the "for sale" section now.

06-05-2010, 07:04 PM	#15
lbenac Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Burnaby, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,313	Originally posted by Matus I would just split the MF section into film and digital, or just make a separate forum for the 645D as it is a rising star and will attract more and more posts with time. At some point MF film part will be as hard to find among digital posts as it is in the "for sale" section now. AMEN to that. I am 120% in favor of putting 645D post with digital and not with film. At the end of the day, it is closer in use and process than from our film MF. Cheers, Luc