New 645D review with samples from pro-photographer

ogl · 06-03-2010, 06:32 PM

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DFA55 is sharp from wide-opened and has good bokeh. IMO.

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/371/978/079.jpg
5440 × 7264 / F2.8 / 0EV / ISO200

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/371/978/077.jpg
7,264 × 5,440 / F2.8 / +1.3 EV / ISO200

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/371/978/078.jpg
F3.2 / +0.3 EV / ISO200

Peter Zack · 06-03-2010, 07:01 PM

I've been downloading samples from the site all day. The 55mm is impressive. What really has me impressed though is the ISO1000 and 1600 images. Other than some detail loss, the images are incredibly clean in the shadows and dark areas.

Love the DOF and bokeh in the images. This is one impressive camera.

JohnBee · 06-03-2010, 07:23 PM

Speechless!!!
And depressing!
Because I'll never be able to afford to own one!

Well I might... But it's a long shot.
That would mean, I'd have to sell(almost) everything I own including my musical instruments.

SteveM · 06-03-2010, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by JohnBee

Speechless!!!
And depressing!
Because I'll never be able to afford to own one!

Well I might... But it's a long shot.
That would mean, I'd have to sell(almost) everything I own including my musical instruments.

I bought glass some time ago before ...a bit of a gamble thinking once you can actually buy in your local area, the price will go up. Now I plan on waiting till it's been out a year or two, when the price comes down. Wulla!....a cheaper 645d...

ogl · 06-03-2010, 10:18 PM

ISO1000 and 1600 has some resolution loss, but noise is low and it's very good level.
It's really working ISO.

**Digitalis** · 06-04-2010, 12:48 AM

these samples are a lot better than the previous landscape images. And give us image quality nuts something to analyse in comparison to the Leica S2. The bokeh looks very"pentax" though I am interested to see under what conditions moire is likely to crop up.

ogl · 06-04-2010, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

these samples are a lot better than the previous landscape images.

It's easy - pro-photоgrapher made photos.

kenyee · 06-04-2010, 06:36 AM

Originally posted by ogl

ISO1000 and 1600 has some resolution loss, but noise is low and it's very good level.

I'm surprised at ISO1600 as well. My K20D would have a lot more loss of detail and craploads more chroma noise

Definitely not what I was expecting given all the comments about how MF sensors suck above ISO200...

Peter Zack · 06-04-2010, 08:35 AM

Just for those that can't download the images (it's very slow). Here's the ISO 1600 image and a couple small crops showing the shadows. Very nice, maybe the best camera I've ever seen at 1600 from any brand.

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ghelary · 06-04-2010, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Peter Zack

Just for those that can't download the images (it's very slow). Here's the ISO 1600 image and a couple small crops showing the shadows. Very nice, maybe the best camera I've ever seen at 1600 from any brand.

Attachment 63669

Attachment 63670

Attachment 63671

Very nice indeed ! We do see some cliping but that's understandable from such a camera. I don't really have in mind the capabilities of the current reference (D3S) but it sure looks that the 645D will be handholdable in most situations.

That's very good news !

unixrevolution · 06-04-2010, 08:45 AM

I love the job google translate did on the page.

Quote:

Speaking of medium-format digital camera ever, PHASE ONE, LEAF, Hasselblad, SINAR, including many types Mamiya digital back was almost as expensive price per car. Therefore, advertisements and magazines, were mostly used as a quality professional cameras are required

deadwolfbones · 06-04-2010, 09:55 AM

Pretty cool review and great samples. Has me salivating.

igorphoto · 06-04-2010, 02:10 PM

Are Japanese the only language of display menu?

Urkeldaedalus · 06-05-2010, 08:37 AM

It may just be because of the photographer's skill, but even beyond pixel peeping I really like the "look" of these images -- the colors are very rich and there is of course a lot of detail. I can't wait to see what photos we start to see when the 645D is finally released a week from now.

deadwolfbones · 06-05-2010, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by igorphoto

Are Japanese the only language of display menu?

Well, the first wave of cameras are for the Japanese market only, so that would make sense.

06-03-2010, 06:32 PM	#1
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	New 645D review with samples from pro-photographer Google Translate DFA55 is sharp from wide-opened and has good bokeh. IMO. http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/371/978/079.jpg 5440 × 7264 / F2.8 / 0EV / ISO200 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/371/978/077.jpg 7,264 × 5,440 / F2.8 / +1.3 EV / ISO200 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/371/978/078.jpg F3.2 / +0.3 EV / ISO200

06-04-2010, 02:10 PM	#13
igorphoto Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Moscow Posts: 26	Language Are Japanese the only language of display menu?

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06-03-2010, 07:01 PM	#2
Peter Zack Pentaxian Moderator Emeritus Join Date: May 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 10,643	I've been downloading samples from the site all day. The 55mm is impressive. What really has me impressed though is the ISO1000 and 1600 images. Other than some detail loss, the images are incredibly clean in the shadows and dark areas. Love the DOF and bokeh in the images. This is one impressive camera.

06-03-2010, 07:23 PM	#3
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	Speechless!!! And depressing! Because I'll never be able to afford to own one! Well I might... But it's a long shot. That would mean, I'd have to sell(almost) everything I own including my musical instruments.

06-03-2010, 07:35 PM	#4
SteveM Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,294	Originally posted by JohnBee Speechless!!! And depressing! Because I'll never be able to afford to own one! Well I might... But it's a long shot. That would mean, I'd have to sell(almost) everything I own including my musical instruments. I bought glass some time ago before ...a bit of a gamble thinking once you can actually buy in your local area, the price will go up. Now I plan on waiting till it's been out a year or two, when the price comes down. Wulla!....a cheaper 645d...

06-03-2010, 10:18 PM	#5
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	ISO1000 and 1600 has some resolution loss, but noise is low and it's very good level. It's really working ISO.

06-04-2010, 12:48 AM	#6
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	these samples are a lot better than the previous landscape images. And give us image quality nuts something to analyse in comparison to the Leica S2. The bokeh looks very"pentax" though I am interested to see under what conditions moire is likely to crop up.

06-04-2010, 02:53 AM	#7
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	Originally posted by Digitalis these samples are a lot better than the previous landscape images. It's easy - pro-photоgrapher made photos.

06-04-2010, 06:36 AM	#8
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	Originally posted by ogl ISO1000 and 1600 has some resolution loss, but noise is low and it's very good level. I'm surprised at ISO1600 as well. My K20D would have a lot more loss of detail and craploads more chroma noise Definitely not what I was expecting given all the comments about how MF sensors suck above ISO200...

06-04-2010, 08:35 AM	#9
Peter Zack Pentaxian Moderator Emeritus Join Date: May 2007 Location: Edmonton Alberta, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 10,643	Just for those that can't download the images (it's very slow). Here's the ISO 1600 image and a couple small crops showing the shadows. Very nice, maybe the best camera I've ever seen at 1600 from any brand.

06-04-2010, 08:43 AM	#10
ghelary Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 613	Originally posted by Peter Zack Just for those that can't download the images (it's very slow). Here's the ISO 1600 image and a couple small crops showing the shadows. Very nice, maybe the best camera I've ever seen at 1600 from any brand. Attachment 63669 Attachment 63670 Attachment 63671 Very nice indeed ! We do see some cliping but that's understandable from such a camera. I don't really have in mind the capabilities of the current reference (D3S) but it sure looks that the 645D will be handholdable in most situations. That's very good news !

06-04-2010, 08:45 AM	#11
unixrevolution Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Waldorf, MD Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,861	I love the job google translate did on the page. Quote: Speaking of medium-format digital camera ever, PHASE ONE, LEAF, Hasselblad, SINAR, including many types Mamiya digital back was almost as expensive price per car. Therefore, advertisements and magazines, were mostly used as a quality professional cameras are required

06-04-2010, 09:55 AM	#12
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Pretty cool review and great samples. Has me salivating.

06-05-2010, 08:37 AM	#14
Urkeldaedalus Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,369	It may just be because of the photographer's skill, but even beyond pixel peeping I really like the "look" of these images -- the colors are very rich and there is of course a lot of detail. I can't wait to see what photos we start to see when the 645D is finally released a week from now.

06-05-2010, 01:51 PM	#15
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Originally posted by igorphoto Are Japanese the only language of display menu? Well, the first wave of cameras are for the Japanese market only, so that would make sense.