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08-14-2010, 07:13 PM   #1
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Indoor Action issues with 645

Though I've had my 645 for several years, I've mostly used it for portraits and other shots of stationary people and things. Last week, I used it for a few rolls taking dance shots. My setup is a gym, in which I augment the lighting with about half a dozen strobes mounted in a gallery bouncing off the ceiling. The strobes are radio controlled, and effectively add 2-3 stops of lighting. I have had excellent results with digital bodies at F5.6-8 at ISO 800 and 4-5.6 at ISO 400. I get clear, well-exposed shots with minimal motion issues.

So, I shot several rolls of film which included two rolls of Fuji 800z, some 160s and some TMY. Some observations:

1. My technique seems to have been abysmal with the fast color films. Most of the shots were badly affected by motion blur and/or camera shake. However, this was not as much a problem with the ISO 400 B&W. Perhaps part of it is that I need to develop a hold for action with the 645, but I'm wondering if the combination of the ISO 800 film and the slow sync speed made blur from ambient light.

2. Fuji 800z is nice stuff. ISO 400 was not this good back in the days when I shot more of it.

3. There was no reason to take the trouble to shoot MF color film at ISO 800 for this kind of subject. My best color shots added little to what I would have gotten with much less trouble from my APS-c digital bodies and lenses.

4. The TMY shots made the effort worthwhile. Not that I hit it out of the park here, either, but the B&W was evocative, interesting and truly added something for my trouble. Many more of them were also sharp, which is a minor mystery. I'm glad there is room for my 120 color films in the freezer for a while, because I see the direction I'm going here.

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Though I've had my 645 for several years, I've mostly used it for portraits and other shots of stationary people and things. Last week, I used it for a few rolls taking dance shots. My setup is a gym, in which I augment the lighting with about half a dozen strobes mounted in a gallery bouncing off the ceiling. The strobes are radio controlled, and effectively add 2-3 stops of lighting. I have had excellent results with digital bodies at F5.6-8 at ISO 800 and 4-5.6 at ISO 400. I get clear, well-exposed shots with minimal motion issues.

So, I shot several rolls of film which included two rolls of Fuji 800z, some 160s and some TMY. Some observations:

1. My technique seems to have been abysmal with the fast color films. Most of the shots were badly affected by motion blur and/or camera shake. However, this was not as much a problem with the ISO 400 B&W. Perhaps part of it is that I need to develop a hold for action with the 645, but I'm wondering if the combination of the ISO 800 film and the slow sync speed made blur from ambient light.

2. Fuji 800z is nice stuff. ISO 400 was not this good back in the days when I shot more of it.

3. There was no reason to take the trouble to shoot MF color film at ISO 800 for this kind of subject. My best color shots added little to what I would have gotten with much less trouble from my APS-c digital bodies and lenses.

4. The TMY shots made the effort worthwhile. Not that I hit it out of the park here, either, but the B&W was evocative, interesting and truly added something for my trouble. Many more of them were also sharp, which is a minor mystery. I'm glad there is room for my 120 color films in the freezer for a while, because I see the direction I'm going here.
Hi Gene,

interesting observations. Might it be, that the colour film recorded more of the red end of the ambient light (or modelling lights of your strobes), than the bw film?I have no idea about the spectral responseof the TMY, but this might be at least partially responsible. Apart from that, I always liked bw sports shots, because colours often distract from the emotional part of the shots.

Ben
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3. There was no reason to take the trouble to shoot MF color film at ISO 800 for this kind of subject. My best color shots added little to what I would have gotten with much less trouble from my APS-c digital bodies and lenses.
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