DP 645D images

Raybo · 12-03-2010, 06:46 PM

For your viewing pleasure!

http://www.*************/news/1012/10120308pentax645d.asp

Raybo · 12-03-2010, 06:47 PM

Blocked?

Oh well!

Raybo · 12-03-2010, 07:31 PM - **1 Like**

Okee dokee!

I poked around PF (I found it in the general forum) and figured out why my link was blocked, and it looks a little asinine to me.

Two wrongs DO NOT make a right in my book!

Cheers,
Ray

Class A · 12-03-2010, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by Raybo

Blocked?

Just change it a bit, like so:

http://www.dpreview. com/news/1012/10120308pentax645d.asp

A simple click doesn't work anymore and the "ref" information back to PF will not be added automatically, but that's how it is supposed to be right now.

I agree that fighting fire with fire isn't the best of ideas.

asw66 · 12-04-2010, 03:03 AM

Quote:

The $10,000 camera is the highest resolution camera ever to be pointed at our test subjects and its huge 44x33mm sensor has certainly done an impressive job.

Indeed. The comparison images from other bodies looked kinda shabby when placed side by side.

RonHendriks1966 · 12-04-2010, 03:26 AM

They are enthousiastick so that is a good thing. I hope they will do a full review, but they are currently very busy wit all the new camera's on the market.

Big G · 12-04-2010, 04:55 AM

Wow, blown away by the massive amount of detail. I used to lust after the D3X but this is something completely new. It makes everything else look.... rubbish.

Expensive, but you certainly get a lot of awesomeness.

melander · 12-04-2010, 05:17 AM

645D makes everything else look like crap

Imaging Resource "Comparometer" ™ Digital Camera Image Comparison Page

steve perry · 12-04-2010, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by melander

645D makes everything else look like crap

Imaging Resource "Comparometer" ™ Digital Camera Image Comparison Page

Yeah, that did me in - I'm gonna have to get a 645D now. I love my D3x(es), but man, that's a significant difference in detail for a landscape shooter!

asw66 · 12-04-2010, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by Raybo

Two wrongs DO NOT make a right in my book!

I don't want to derail this thread, but I'd be doing the same thing if I were running this site. "Tit for tat" is a highly effective strategy in game theory:

Tit for tat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In other words, start off being nice, and continue being nice to those who are nice to you. But stop being nice to those who stop being nice to you.

Class A · 12-04-2010, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by asw66

I don't want to derail this thread, but I'd be doing the same thing if I were running this site. "Tit for tat" is a highly effective strategy in game theory:

If you are the 800-pound gorilla then trampling everything to death you don't like is also a highly effective strategy to make sure things run your way.

Civilised societies have chosen different paths of dealing with conflicts. It's not the law of the jungle or the most effective game strategy independently of moral merit that rules.

"Eye for an eye" is suggested by the old testament.
The new testament proposes to "offer the other cheek".
I guess Jesus was a loser if he didn't use "tit for tat"?

asw66 · 12-04-2010, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by Class A

If you are the 800-pound gorilla then trampling everything to death you don't like is also a highly effective strategy to make sure things run your way.

Civilised societies have chosen different paths of dealing with conflicts. It's not the law of the jungle or the most effective game strategy independently of moral merit that rules.

"Eye for an eye" is suggested by the old testament.
The new testament proposes to "offer the other cheek".
I guess Jesus was a loser if he didn't use "tit for tat"?

Sheesh, calm down. I don't operate like this in my personal affairs ... not by a long shot. I think we all agree that the way that we act with our loved ones and even those personal acquaintances that we are moderately well disposed to should not be based on such cold-hearted calculations.

But the 800 pound gorilla here is DPR, and it is indeed trying to trample the other photography sites. So the best thing for the other photography sites is, as I say, to employ a tit-for-tat strategy. That is, allow links to those sites that allow links to you, and deny links to those sites that deny links to you. That's all.

If this strategy were consistently pursued, we should find a gradual drift away from the DPR forums, since they would in all likelihood have no links to or from other photography sites. Moreover, the other photography sites would all benefit from the free and open sharing of tips and information with links to and from each others' sites.

Jonson PL · 12-04-2010, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Class A

Just change it a bit, like so:

http://www.dpreview. com/news/1012/10120308pentax645d.asp

A simple click doesn't work anymore and the "ref" information back to PF will not be added automatically, but that's how it is supposed to be right now.

I agree that fighting fire with fire isn't the best of ideas.

I really like the smooth tonal difference and change. The DR is always looking very good in real life situations

Class A · 12-04-2010, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by asw66

So the best thing for the other photography sites is, as I say, to employ a tit-for-tat strategy.

Doesn't make sense to me. DPR does something wrong (it blocks links). If you retaliate by doing the very same thing, how can you claim that you are the better forum? If you do a "tit" for a "tat" then you are just descending to the same low level that you took issue with.

Originally posted by asw66

If this strategy were consistently pursued, we should find a gradual drift away from the DPR forums, since they would in all likelihood have no links to or from other photography sites.

DPR forums will always be popular even if no other forum linked to them. DPR runs reviews for all brands and thus gets high traffic. It will pop up in Google searches no matter whether PF blocks them or not. The DPR forum experience is horrible and still people use it. There is a snowball's chance in hell that DPR forums will dry out because forums like PF block them.

Also, note that automatic blocking and preventing from links being posted and followed are two different things. Posters at DPR always posted links to PF using one method or the other. The main thing that automatic blocking achieves is a) annoy forum users and b) prevent tracking from where the link was made.

Big G · 12-05-2010, 04:06 AM

Originally posted by melander

645D makes everything else look like crap

Imaging Resource "Comparometer" ™ Digital Camera Image Comparison Page

Originally posted by steve perry

Yeah, that did me in - I'm gonna have to get a 645D now. I love my D3x(es), but man, that's a significant difference in detail for a landscape shooter!

Uhhhm, woah. I think that settles it for me; if I start to sell landscapes on a regular basis then I might press the button on one of these badboys. Fully sealed medium-format with that quality? Yes please!

Regarding the rest of the thread surrounding DPR / PF, I took a couple of weeks away hoping that this petulant chat would have blown over. Sadly not; can we not forget about it now?

12-03-2010, 06:46 PM	#1
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12-03-2010, 06:47 PM	#2
Raybo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 872 Original Poster	Blocked? Oh well!

12-03-2010, 07:31 PM - 1 Like	#3
Raybo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 872 Original Poster	Okee dokee! I poked around PF (I found it in the general forum) and figured out why my link was blocked, and it looks a little asinine to me. Two wrongs DO NOT make a right in my book! Cheers, Ray

12-03-2010, 11:01 PM	#4
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by Raybo Blocked? Just change it a bit, like so: http://www.dpreview. com/news/1012/10120308pentax645d.asp A simple click doesn't work anymore and the "ref" information back to PF will not be added automatically, but that's how it is supposed to be right now. I agree that fighting fire with fire isn't the best of ideas.

12-04-2010, 03:03 AM	#5
asw66 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 347	Quote: The $10,000 camera is the highest resolution camera ever to be pointed at our test subjects and its huge 44x33mm sensor has certainly done an impressive job. Indeed. The comparison images from other bodies looked kinda shabby when placed side by side.

12-04-2010, 03:26 AM	#6
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	They are enthousiastick so that is a good thing. I hope they will do a full review, but they are currently very busy wit all the new camera's on the market.

12-04-2010, 04:55 AM	#7
Big G Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 581	Wow, blown away by the massive amount of detail. I used to lust after the D3X but this is something completely new. It makes everything else look.... rubbish. Expensive, but you certainly get a lot of awesomeness.

12-04-2010, 05:17 AM	#8
melander Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden, Umea Posts: 876	645D makes everything else look like crap Imaging Resource "Comparometer" ™ Digital Camera Image Comparison Page

12-04-2010, 06:56 AM	#9
steve perry New Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 9	Originally posted by melander 645D makes everything else look like crap Imaging Resource "Comparometer" ™ Digital Camera Image Comparison Page Yeah, that did me in - I'm gonna have to get a 645D now. I love my D3x(es), but man, that's a significant difference in detail for a landscape shooter!

12-04-2010, 07:30 AM	#10
asw66 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 347	Originally posted by Raybo Two wrongs DO NOT make a right in my book! I don't want to derail this thread, but I'd be doing the same thing if I were running this site. "Tit for tat" is a highly effective strategy in game theory: Tit for tat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia In other words, start off being nice, and continue being nice to those who are nice to you. But stop being nice to those who stop being nice to you.

12-04-2010, 12:50 PM	#11
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by asw66 I don't want to derail this thread, but I'd be doing the same thing if I were running this site. "Tit for tat" is a highly effective strategy in game theory: If you are the 800-pound gorilla then trampling everything to death you don't like is also a highly effective strategy to make sure things run your way. Civilised societies have chosen different paths of dealing with conflicts. It's not the law of the jungle or the most effective game strategy independently of moral merit that rules. "Eye for an eye" is suggested by the old testament. The new testament proposes to "offer the other cheek". I guess Jesus was a loser if he didn't use "tit for tat"?

12-04-2010, 02:36 PM	#12
asw66 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 347	Originally posted by Class A If you are the 800-pound gorilla then trampling everything to death you don't like is also a highly effective strategy to make sure things run your way. Civilised societies have chosen different paths of dealing with conflicts. It's not the law of the jungle or the most effective game strategy independently of moral merit that rules. "Eye for an eye" is suggested by the old testament. The new testament proposes to "offer the other cheek". I guess Jesus was a loser if he didn't use "tit for tat"? Sheesh, calm down. I don't operate like this in my personal affairs ... not by a long shot. I think we all agree that the way that we act with our loved ones and even those personal acquaintances that we are moderately well disposed to should not be based on such cold-hearted calculations. But the 800 pound gorilla here is DPR, and it is indeed trying to trample the other photography sites. So the best thing for the other photography sites is, as I say, to employ a tit-for-tat strategy. That is, allow links to those sites that allow links to you, and deny links to those sites that deny links to you. That's all. If this strategy were consistently pursued, we should find a gradual drift away from the DPR forums, since they would in all likelihood have no links to or from other photography sites. Moreover, the other photography sites would all benefit from the free and open sharing of tips and information with links to and from each others' sites.

12-04-2010, 02:54 PM	#13
Jonson PL Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Copenhagen Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,842	Originally posted by Class A Just change it a bit, like so: http://www.dpreview. com/news/1012/10120308pentax645d.asp A simple click doesn't work anymore and the "ref" information back to PF will not be added automatically, but that's how it is supposed to be right now. I agree that fighting fire with fire isn't the best of ideas. I really like the smooth tonal difference and change. The DR is always looking very good in real life situations

12-04-2010, 07:43 PM	#14
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by asw66 So the best thing for the other photography sites is, as I say, to employ a tit-for-tat strategy. Doesn't make sense to me. DPR does something wrong (it blocks links). If you retaliate by doing the very same thing, how can you claim that you are the better forum? If you do a "tit" for a "tat" then you are just descending to the same low level that you took issue with. Originally posted by asw66 If this strategy were consistently pursued, we should find a gradual drift away from the DPR forums, since they would in all likelihood have no links to or from other photography sites. DPR forums will always be popular even if no other forum linked to them. DPR runs reviews for all brands and thus gets high traffic. It will pop up in Google searches no matter whether PF blocks them or not. The DPR forum experience is horrible and still people use it. There is a snowball's chance in hell that DPR forums will dry out because forums like PF block them. Also, note that automatic blocking and preventing from links being posted and followed are two different things. Posters at DPR always posted links to PF using one method or the other. The main thing that automatic blocking achieves is a) annoy forum users and b) prevent tracking from where the link was made.

12-05-2010, 04:06 AM	#15
Big G Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 581	Originally posted by melander 645D makes everything else look like crap Imaging Resource "Comparometer" ™ Digital Camera Image Comparison Page Originally posted by steve perry Yeah, that did me in - I'm gonna have to get a 645D now. I love my D3x(es), but man, that's a significant difference in detail for a landscape shooter! Uhhhm, woah. I think that settles it for me; if I start to sell landscapes on a regular basis then I might press the button on one of these badboys. Fully sealed medium-format with that quality? Yes please! Regarding the rest of the thread surrounding DPR / PF, I took a couple of weeks away hoping that this petulant chat would have blown over. Sadly not; can we not forget about it now?