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03-12-2011, 01:35 PM - 1 Like   #1
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Oh crap ... I just won

So last weekend I became interested in buying a 645 (regular or N). I looked on eBay and bid on a couple and lost. I thought it was best in the end, because I just bought a K-5. Well I checked my eBay last night and it looks like I won a 645N.

Pentax 645N Medium Format Film Camera - eBay (item 170611597164 end time Mar-11-11 14:47:39 PST)

I'm hoping this is a good deal for one with a 120 back and no lens? Now I just need to wait a little bit before I buy a lens so I can recover from all the money spent .....

03-12-2011, 02:22 PM   #2
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Well, shop around a bit to get a rough value of the 645N. I wish I'd bought this model. I picked up the original 645 with a 75mm f2.8 lens (the 645 version of the kit lens) last year for about $250. While the 645nII is the really good one the N version seems to be much better than the original from a features stand point. You should look around for a nice 75mm f2.8 A lens (these should be the most inexpensive one), it's MF but it's also the length equivalent to a a 50mm lens on a 35mm film camera. It'll get you going. One 120 back is good for starters. I picked up a few more and a 220 back but I'm finding that the 12-16 shots I get out of a 120 roll is more than enough for typical subjects. 220 rolls are like 31 pictures and I generally want to develop or change film more often. So happy learning.
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Not too bad there

Yes the mf 75 - and if you feel like it a 150 - these both haven't felt the inflation brought on by some digital body somebody released recently...
03-12-2011, 02:46 PM   #4
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Thanks guys. Yea I see the prices for the lenses and cry. Stupid 645D

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645 lens prices Waaaaah!

QuoteOriginally posted by gtxtom Quote
Thanks guys. Yea I see the prices for the lenses and cry. Stupid 645D

Tell me about it! I've lusted after a 645n for some time and finally took the plunge recently. I wish I'd done so a year ago when prices were more sane and before the 645d muddied the waters! This is the only time I've resented Pentax's policy of backward compatibility

Thus far I've bought the 55, the 75, the 200 and the 120 macro, plus extension tubes, bought before the macro. All are manual focus; only King Midas could afford the AF jobs, new or used.

While I am a confirmed Pentaxian (Asahi Flex IIb w lenses, K1000, ME-Super, MX, LX, K10d, blah) why, oh why, doesn't Pentax furnish lens hoods? My 55 is I think new old stock, the box has all the internal packing a new item would but is somewhat shopworn. The original price tag is OVER$1,000.00! For that sort of money the buyer ought to get a custom fitted lens hood, and just maybe a McDonald's coupon!

BTW, it is easy to convert the relatively common 220 inserts to act as 120 inserts, just a jeweler's phillips head screwdriver and a minute or two. You can find the procedure in this forum, or email me off list and I'll tell you the secret, such as it is.

After that rant, welcome aboard! The 645n is a lovely lump of a camera, and its pictures are incredible for those of us to 35mm. They compete easily with digital, and have a certain quality which I don't find among the 1s and 0s.

All joking aside, does anyone have Pentax part numbers for shades for the 55, 75, and 120? The 200 has a lovely slide-out hood. Thanks in advance.
03-13-2011, 01:17 PM   #6
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Thanks. The camera I won has a 120 insert, so I won't be getting a 220 insert for a while probably. What's the advantage of doing that anyway?
03-13-2011, 01:22 PM   #7
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I love my 645N. Handling is great, and the camera isn't all THAT big to carry around.

Most of the 645 FA lenses have gotten expensive, but I notice that Pentax 35mm camera lenses aren't all that cheap, either. In terms of strategy, you can usually do best buying a 645N with a complete set of lenses. Many fewer buyers for an expensive package. This is especially useful when shopping Craigslist, where 645s come up every month or so, and 645Ns maybe every 3 months, at least in my area.

You might be able to find a 75mm FA at a reasonable price. And, the 55mm hasn't been driven up so much because the stock 645D lens is 55 and optimized for digital. The manual 35mm is awesome, and manual focus is reasonable given DOF and zone focussing. It is worth the expense, because it is such a useful focus length.

I've been collecting lens hood part numbers when I see them at eBay or here. My list isn't yet complete (or absolutely accurate, perhaps, so don't sue me!).

120mm A, 67mm filter, MH-RA, 67mm
75mm A, 58mm filter, Hood RH-A 58mm screw-in
55mm A Hood, 55mm filter, RH-B58 58mm screw-in
45mm A, 67mm filter, Hood RH-RA 70mm screw-in
35mm A, 77mm filter, Hood RH-RB 77mm screw-in
- WARLH77 Adorama 77mm Wide Angle Rubber Lens Hood

200mm FA, 58mm filter, PH-RBB bayonet
120mm FA, 67mm filter, PH-RBD 67 bayonet
75mm FA, 58mm filter, Hood RH-A 58mm screw-in
45mm FA, 67mm filter, PH-RBC 67 bayonet
25mm FA, 82mm filter, Hood PH-RBB 82 bayonet
03-13-2011, 01:48 PM   #8
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Well I'm probably going to sell my 645 FA lenses so maybe good news.

03-13-2011, 04:22 PM   #9
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Let me know if you do decide to!
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KEH has a few lenses available right now, but probably not for long. Just a few months ago the A 75/2.8 was selling for 75.00 much for that. Glad I picked up several FA lenses for my 645NII when prices were still low.
03-13-2011, 07:59 PM   #11
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$75 would be very nice ...
03-15-2011, 01:45 PM   #12
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The 75mm A at bargain grade now sells for 339$ on KEH. I bought a bargain grade 75mm FA from KEH three years ago for 50$.

I remember seing a guy on flickr butcher a pentax 645 75mm lens to fit on his aps-c camera and i told him he was an *******. Things got scarce pretty quickly these past few years.
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why butcher? the 645>K adapter is enough
(oh, unless it was on a non-Pentax body. I'm a monotheist, so would never consider it)
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I just did the same thing, bought into the 645 club too, with a reasonably complete outfit. Original 645, 55 2.8, 75 2.8, 150 3.5, and a couple backs. I kind of wanted the n instead, but figured this was too good a deal to pass up with lenses. I could always pick up a 645nII body later. It's something I've been toying with for a while now.
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For me, the 645N, is a useful upgrade, mainly for the handling. The autofocus is obviously the big difference from the 645, but I feel the 645 has more inconvenient menus and multi-modal buttons. In comparison, the 645N has more single-mode/single-use buttons. Beautiful layout of buttons; we see the same philosophy carried out in today's K-5.

It seems to me the 645N has gone up in price, but I'm not sure whether that might be due to people bidding up the package of camera and FA lens.

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